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I still feel that Nina...

posted 8 years ago by DustnBones001
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Leaving the show was a disrespect to both the show and the fans. I posted something similar when it first happened which was quite controversial to say the least. Look I know we humans get bored doing the same thing over and over again. But I can strongly assume working on a successful tv show is something we all would love to be apart of. So i find it hard to see doing a show as TVD would be slave labor. Certainly beats a sh!tty mininum wage job at wal mart.

I think she should of just told Plec hey I will do one more season if its the last. That way we could get a proper final season with Elena and possibly Katherine. Now if were lucky Nina might come back for the series finale(and despite the rumors I don't think she will)and what will she do exactly? Wake up and marry Damon? Will she be killed off? I don't see how they are going to create a satisfying finale with one episode with Elena.

Now I know people will defend her saying its her life her choice I get it but personally I feel as the main lead of a show its good to see it through. Especially for the fans who made you the success that you are.

[–] bluesysax 8 years ago

The problem with this is that neither JP or the CW were willing to say when the show would end. They have gone on record to say that they will write the show as long as the actors were willing to stay. I have no issue with Nina deciding to quit while she could..it's her career after all. The other actors are equally responsible for their own career and choices. Nina is not responsible for the careers or jobs of other people, if they are good enough they will find work elsewhere. As far as I can tell, she committed to 6 years, and she fulfilled that contract. It is all anyone rightfully can expect of her.

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[–] DustnBones001 8 years ago

That is certainly true she did fulfill her contract but still can't help to see it selfish of her to at least not finish the show. She had some clout so she could of forced Plec's hand of one more season. But I do see both sides to this my main thing is I wanted more Katherine lol.

[–] JoanTheVampireSlayer 8 years ago

She had some clout so she could of forced Plec's hand of one more season.

It wouldn't be only Plec she'd have to convince. There's two show runners (Plec and Dries) as well as the network's president that she'd have to convince.

I know I'm a vampire, Snookie.

[–] Allison_max_rae94 8 years ago

And Julie was on the record, jokingly as saying she was happy with seven seasons and the network wanted more (I think ten was the number floated) which people would remember if they read the articles of the time and what was actually said.

I've the utmost respect for Nina Dobrev- TVD was just in a no win scenario and it looks like things might be worse for The Originals now that the new shows are tanking.

Legends of Tomorrow looks like it might be the first superhero show axed. It's in the crucial second season, in a prime timeslot and getting outperformed by a veteran show in its twelfth year. This is a long term issue of the CW's that predates TVD- they have issues with their lineup and force shows to continue on long past their expiration date to patch up their lineup.

Ideally, Nina leaving would have forced the CW into giving the show an end date but they've always been like this.

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[–] JoanTheVampireSlayer 8 years ago

I think the idea that an actor is beholden to a series all the way through even when they're ready to move on is a selfish expectation. She didn't leave until her contract was finished. The fact that TVD is doing another season without her already proves that your suggestion she stay for one more season wouldn't have worked out. Nina is not the boss. She's a hired actress. She can't tell them when to end the show. If they felt her character was too important then they would have ended it at season 6 when she left.

I know I'm a vampire, Snookie.

[–] sparklingly 8 years ago

I completely agree. I don't understand how "fans" can think that because they choose to watch this show an hour a week during the season then that means that Nina owes them a year or more of her life doing something she doesn't want to do anymore. I would rather have an actor walk away when their heart is not in it anymore than to stay on and have their work suffer because of it. Like with Paul, I could tell just by his performance that he has been over this for quite some time now. It's clear that they had to motivate him with directing oppurtunities to get him to stay on. I also thought it was clear that it was never going to be "just one more season." Julie Plec had to convince the CW executives that this should be the last season probably because other actors were leaving after this season anyway and the show would just fall apart.

When your mind breaks the spirit of your soul.

[–] TaylorBruh25 8 years ago

I also believe they had to convince CW to let them end it this year. Even though the ratings are low, they're still higher than any Friday show (besides Supernatural) that's been there in 4 or 5 years. I'm almost certain TVD would've been renewed for S9, only it would've been 13 eps and without Ian and Kat, and as much as I think Paul and Malarkey could carry a series, this show needs Ian and Pauls dynamic.

[–] DustnBones001 8 years ago

I don't think its a selfish expectation at all. For one when you sign up to do a tv show you know the show might either last for one season or a long time. If you aren't comfortable with the possible long term commitment you shouldn't sign up for a tv show then.

I just think of all the shows that would be ruined if the lead actor left. Imagine if Charlie Hunnam left SOA early the show would suffer no matter how great the other characters are. I believe a lead of a series has an obligation to the show and its fans to either see it through or force a conclusion.

Now I'm sure their is much more behind the scenes reasons why Nina left. I don't buy for one second it was just because she fulfilled her contract. She comes across that she used the show and its fans to get popular and then decided to book it like if she is too good for the show now. I get a strong ego vibe from her that was made apparent in the interviews she did when she was leaving.

The reason why this bugs me is the final season isn't going to feel right. Elena and Katherine should be in the final season to give a proper conclusion instead we are probably going to get a forced one that wont feel right.

[–] JoanTheVampireSlayer 8 years ago

If you aren't comfortable with the possible long term commitment you shouldn't sign up for a tv show then.

So six years is not a long term commitment? 

I just think of all the shows that would be ruined if the lead actor left. Imagine if Charlie Hunnam left SOA early the show would suffer no matter how great the other characters are.

Nina and the rest of main cast of TVD were originally signed on for six seasons. I have no idea what kind of contract Charlie Hunnam had for SOA, but from what I remember of Kurt Sutter's interviews he never suggested SOA would have any more than seven seasons. So it appears that the SOA cast at least had some idea of when their show would end.

The same is not true for TVD. I remember Plec and Williamson (back when he was still the showrunner) talked about TVD having six seasons. Then a couple years ago before Nina left Plec said TVD could go as far as 10 seasons. It's not Nina's fault Plec (and presumably also the network) couldn't commit to a final season while Nina was still on the show.

And I don't mean to sound rude, but I'm not going to bother responding to your "she has a big ego" comment because that whole paragraph really just sounded like whining that you didn't get what you want.

I know I'm a vampire, Snookie.

[–] DustnBones001 8 years ago

So six years is not a long term commitment?

It is but I just feel at that point what's a couple more after that I'm just speaking truly as a fan here that feels like the final season is going to feel empty without her.

Nina and the rest of main cast of TVD were originally signed on for six seasons. I have no idea what kind of contract Charlie Hunnam had for SOA, but from what I remember of Kurt Sutter's interviews he never suggested SOA would have any more than seven seasons. So it appears that the SOA cast at least had some idea of when their show would end.

The same is not true for TVD. I remember Plec and Williamson (back when he was still the showrunner) talked about TVD having six seasons. Then a couple years ago before Nina left Plec said TVD could go as far as 10 seasons. It's not Nina's fault Plec (and presumably also the network) couldn't commit to a final season while Nina was still on the show.

Fair enough I did look it up and you were right Plec was willing to continue with TVD for as long as the cast wanted to do it. There was apparently no end in sight until they randomly announced that season 8 would be the last at comic con this year. I can now understand why Nina wanted to leave so fair enough I was wrong.

And I don't mean to sound rude, but I'm not going to bother responding to your "she has a big ego" comment because that whole paragraph really just sounded like whining that you didn't get what you want.

Well I admit I was whining there lol. I'm not afraid to admit I was and still am butthurt about her leaving the show. Still I shouldn't resort to insults so I do feel bad about that. I don't know her or the behind the scenes reasons that lead her to leave. I can only make assumptions.

[–] TaylorBruh25 8 years ago

Season 8s announcement wasn't out of nowhere, Ian and Kat are leaving after S8, the network wouldn't have cared since the show is making money and not taking up a DC night, it would've been renewed for Season 9. I'm sure in the hands of better writers we could see someone pull off a Stefan, Enzo, Caroline, Alaric, and Matt show. But tbh I don't see Plec knowing what to do without Damon, just look at the S6 premiere. HalluciDamon because they tried to be ambiguous about Damon and Bonnie's whereabouts.

[–] LovesConfusingJoy 8 years ago

It was never confirmed that Ian was leaving, just a rumor

[–] forksforrests 8 years ago

That's not true. It was a rumor that TVD was ending because those two were leaving but Ian was confirmed to be leaving by various articles:

http://www.celebuzz.com/2016-04-19/ian-somerhalder-is-leaving-the-vampire-diaries-after-next-season-show-may-continue/
http://hollywoodlife.com/2016/04/13/the-vampire-diaries-not-ending-ian-somerhalder-leaving-season-8/

A rose is just a rose.

[–] LovesConfusingJoy 8 years ago

Those aren't credible sites and I would never take those sites with anything more than a grain of salt.

[–] bluesysax 8 years ago

Would you take the word of the man himself? He told fans at one of the conventions that S8 would be his last. It's on you tube somewhere.

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[–] LovesConfusingJoy 8 years ago

At the last convention when they all announced it?

I'm just being facetious, I really don't care. If he said it with certainty a year or two ago, it would've been widely noted.

[–] TaylorBruh25 8 years ago

She fulfilled her contract, Julie stated numerous times before S6 even that she intended to push TVD for 10 seasons. She came up two seasons short, but still. Elena will be back for two episodes of Nina actually returns, OR one two hour extended finale. She'll most likely wake up when Bonnie dies or gets turned and she'll marry Damon while Steroline simultaneously does as well oh god.

[–] Avaria_vasiel 8 years ago

I feel the major disrespect to the show and the fans has come from Julie Plec and Caroline Dries for fvcking it up so badly after Williamson jumped ship.
When you look back at all the press and promos for the early seasons (roughly seasons 1-3) you could see the genuine love and respect ALL the actors had for the show and their characters. It was a tween Supernatural show that should not have been as good as it was and they all knew they had struck gold because they were on a show that not only catered to the tween romance/post-Twilight bandwagon, but also had enough strong mythology and interesting and surprising storylines and pretty good character development.

After Williamson left the interesting stories and all character development stopped in favour for shallow stories that did nothing but push the Delana relationship to the forefront. And you can see the actors are just as fed up as the fans. The show became not even laughably bad. It was just bad. Heck, apart from The Originals (which started with a pre-existing fanbase) nothing Julie Plec has created has lasted longer than one season.

So I can't blame Nina for fleeing a sinking ship as soon as her contract was up. Who wants to be associated with something so pathetically bad? I'm just surprised the other actors agreed to extend their contracts. And she didn't just up and quit, she fulfilled her contractual obligations to the show. And it's not like Plec & Co. didn't know she was leaving til the last minute. They knew well before the end of season 6 - probably even before starting it - that Nina was leaving. They should have wrapped it up then.

[–] christinaparker-60256 8 years ago

I feel the major disrespect to the show and the fans has come from Julie Plec and Caroline Dries for fvcking it up so badly after Williamson jumped ship.

Agree. It is on them. I was sad Nina left, but I totally get it. She is one of the only ones in the regular cast that I can actually see having a movie career. While I do think Ian will get another show/consistently work, he can afford to wait and Nina really couldn't.

This show had the potential to be really epic. Great cast, compelling built in story. But they are truly awful storytellers who cater to the most vocal fans. No backbone. And honestly, I feel like Delena could have been a great couple, the elements are there, but it was written poorly. All telling and no showing, the removal of Elena's agency (the sirebond, emotions off, etc.). Plec and Dries are just not capable of anything outside of soap operas.

[–] kem7696 8 years ago

This has to be one of the dumbest and funniest posts ever. I bet you also think everything in life revolves around you and everyone should cater to your wants and needs, even if its not what they want.

[–] lyrahowl-01933 8 years ago

Well, if I were her I'd have quit that sinking ship even earlier. The show's quality has gone down incredibly and she was tired of doing the same thing over and over again. All the best wishes for her future career.

[–] monstermayhem32 8 years ago

Chances are nina will return for the finale to give elena closure.

[–] RidiculousPasta 8 years ago

If you're not writing Nina's checks I'm sure she doesn't care. She was probably just as bored as those of us who found Elena boring. You can only do the same thing so many seasons before wanting more. Actors like being challenged. What challenge is there in whining, pouting, and awkwardly kissing in slow motion?

She's already building a successful movie career since leaving this show. They should've utilized her while they had her. She clearly enjoyed playing Katherine, they killed the wrong character.

[–] DustnBones001 8 years ago

Well you just won the no sh!t comment of the year lol. Look I'm not debating the fact that she was entitled to her choice she was I just don't personally have to like it or respect it. I don't know the circumstances of what caused her to wanna leave all I know is I don't believe the official story. My issue with it all is strictly from a fan perspective. I think she made a terrible decision and I hope she reflects on it years down the road and regrets it.

[–] RidiculousPasta 8 years ago

And you win autistic of the month.

You're real worked up about the personal life of some actress you don't know. She doesn't give a damn what you think. Move on and grow up. It's a tv show. Most don't even make it 6 years.

[–] DustnBones001 8 years ago

Lol wow you are a special kind of stupid aren't you. And you sound much more worked up about this acting like your some personal friend of hers defending her honor lol settle your ass down. All I was doing was sharing a viewpoint you know what these message boards are for. If you didn't like it you didn't have to reply.

[–] mymammakat 8 years ago

Just came across your "autiistic " comment, REALLY?
Talk about "grow up".
Just agree to disagree, and leave things, people you know nothing about out of it because that comment is very disturbing, misinformed and unnecessary.

We're all on our way out, act accordingly.

[–] sparklingly 8 years ago

I hope she reflects on it years down the road and regrets it.

That's remarkably petty. Maybe you should reflect on that.

When your mind breaks the spirit of your soul.

[–] DustnBones001 8 years ago

The only thing petty is your reply.

[–] sparklingly 8 years ago

Yeah, how so?

When your mind breaks the spirit of your soul.

[–] Anthoney999 8 years ago

I agree. Most of the time when this happens the actor goes off think that they'll get a great new role. Be even more famous. Instead most of the time it's the beginning of the end of the career.

You don't see Sam or Dean quitting before things are done.

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