The final straw.......


Someone said Kai will rape Bonnie this season. If this in fact true, Julie plec is mental in the head. Bonnie went through enough *beep* but let's keep making her suffer with something traumatizing. This is disturbing.

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I've read that too, he's supposed to attempt a rape on Bonnie (just as bad) and kill Enzo. I hope that's a lie, because if it's true, these folks have genuinely lost it. Not only will she face physical and mental abuse once more, she'll lose her "true" love.

As a Bonkai shipper I TOTALLY believe this.

Ditzy muffin, Orgine and ChristinaParker...thoughts, please.


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How would he accomplish a rape while holding his head under his arm?
I'd be cool with him killing Enzo though, Bonnie deserves better.



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Okay, I'm cracking up picturing this!

And I feel bad at laughing harder at the Enzo comment.


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How would he accomplish a rape while holding his head under his arm?


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On the one hand, I refuse to believe that the woman who never acknowledges that Damon is a rapist would be so crude and transparent as to do this. To confirm her bias against Bonnie by subjecting her to a rape arc. To vent her vitriol at Bonkai by making Kai the would-be rapist.

On the other hand... Is there anything that is really beyond Plec at this point? She has nothing to lose now. And she's evil enough that she's doing this because of the BK shippers harassment - her way of driving home the point that Kai is not boyfriend material. I just don't understand how evil and twisted a human being can be.

I was so disappointed when I heard of Kai's return because I was sure that he won' thave any interaction with Bonnie and/or might show him in love with some other girl (or even Damon!) Now I've gone from there to praying that he doesn't have any interaction or show any kind of "interest" towards Bonnie.

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My thoughts exactly.

At this point I hope they have no interaction, whatsoever.

To me, it seems like a tit for tat against Damon, even if that's not what she intended. Kai mirrors too many of Damon’s actions for it to be a coincidence. The rape aspect (not ruffling feathers, no need for a debate), killing a pregnant woman, wiping out an entire bloodline.


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On the other hand... Is there anything that is really beyond Plec at this point?


This is where I am at. I hope it's not true. But since its JP it so freaking plausible.

She has nothing to lose now.


Yup. Do you think this is why KG was talking about garbage writing?

And she's evil enough that she's doing this because of the BK shippers harassment - her way of driving home the point that Kai is not boyfriend material. I just don't understand how evil and twisted a human being can be.


She's mad because we're right. She's a piss poor writer who can't write good characterization and plot development to save her life and resents having people point out her easily avoidable failures (you know like actually making Damon a better person rather than relying on the majesty of Ian's face cause we'd supposedly watch him read a phone book or something).

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This would probably be her revenge against all the complaints about Damon's rape of Caroline being brushed under the carpet. She can then go on twitter and say "See! This is how rape really looks like!" She's killing about three birds (her dislike for Kat/Bonnie, Bonkai, her love for Ian/Damon) with one stone.

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I don't know about this. Kai will be in ep 8x13 so we know he doesn't kill Enzo since both Enzo and Bonnie are in the finale. Plus, Kai will be in hell. What's he gonna do? attempt rape while he's in hell? haha I doubt Bonnie goes to hell since the rumors are that its just Damon and he will try and force Kai to reveal how to wake Elena. i think a violent rape attempt is too dark for TVD.

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Well, Alaric "killed" Damon, didn't he? It's possible that Enzo was brought back through some kind of deal with Cade. Unless Bonnie was talking to Enzo's ghost in the finale or maybe even going back to a flashback/memory of their time together since most of their romance has been shown to us in flashbacks. smh.

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I hope that the rape rumors are false and I'm going with the fact that they are since I don't want Bonnie going through that. But, as far as death on this show goes, JP doesn't take it seriously.

She has had characters "die" all of the time to bring them back from death or not have them really dead/dead for good.

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I am holding out hope that Chris wouldnd't come back for that type of storyline. Him killing Enzo I can definitely see though.

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Ho-ly *beep* I'm praying this isn't true, I mean Kai's in Hell, so to have him back would have to mean someone's IN Hell, right? I thought Damon or Stefan was dying and teaming up with some old villains to escape and take on Cade. I feel like Enzo was dying by the Salvatore's hand, but this...

I'd literally yell REALLY at my tv. I wasn't even the biggest Kai fan, but it really makes no sense. He's still merged right? Why would we attempt to rape Bonnie now instead of in the prison world where they were alone and hadn't merged with Luke yet? By that alone it makes 0 sense.

Why are even bringing Kai back to interact with Bonnie and Enzo anyway when

1. Damon killed Kai, Kais never even met Enzo.
2. The Hell storyline is about The Salvatore Brothers.
3. Is he going to have no beef with Damon?
4. I thought him being brought was the way to breaking the Sleeping spell? Wtf are we giving Bonnie unesscessary misery for? AGAIN?

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Why give Bonnie misery again? Because JP really doesn't care for and hates Bonnie. She puts anything together and says that Bonnie is "happy" just as a way to shut Bonnie fans up, while putting as little effort into Bonnie's story as she can. This season just have Bonnie declare her love/need for Enzo every episode and say that Enzo makes her happy to keep Bonnie fans quiet.

Even tho she has Bonnie saying that she wants to die without Enzo and is isolating her with Enzo away from everyone else.

I believe that JP truly writes the way that she does for Bonnie out of spite. Because she doesn't like her writing being called out and her writing for Bonnie has been called out in the past and JP's pride/ego doesn't like to admitting to mistakes and fixing them, so she stays the course.

She keeps writing for Bonnie the way that she does to prove to herself that she isn't problematic and to force Bonnie fans to accept the writing and act like we should all be embracing and loving it.

She is really entitled to thinking that Bonnie fans are suppose to be happy with anything that she throws out.

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This sounds so ridiculous, I hope to god this isn't what happens.

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Seems like one person on Anon going around to a bunch of Bonnie fans and leaving inboxes the fact that they have an "onset person" that says that this attempted rape will happen. Odd that this person is trying to convince Bonnie fans that this will happen.

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It probably is fake. The sad part is that a lot of rumors that seemed to ridiculous to be true ended up being true...Sleeping Beauty and then magic pregnancy.

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Yeah, the problem is it isn't far fetched, from Julie's standards, I mean look at the 180 they pulled with Kai before his death.

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Yeah, true. I actually just rewatched the end of season 6 and I got to the part where Bonnie is dreaming of Kai and he says "no magic? when I was spooning you earlier I must have sleep siphoned you." That was weird. That was a really freaking weird comment. There was always sort of dangerous sexual tension between Bonnie and Kai, but that comment was creepy in a different sort of way than this show likes to be creepy. So...yeah. It is possible.

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Yeah, and logically, his Luke hath wouldn't have let him be like that. Man that ending was so botched.

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You know what's funny? There was an anon that posted spoilers about the sleeping Beauty curse a month before it happened.

What they shared was apparently right, but they heavily exaggerated and in some areas flat out lied about everything else in the finale.




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Yeah I remeber that, same thing happened last year with some Originals spoilers.

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I believe that JP truly writes the way that she does for Bonnie out of spite. Because she doesn't like her writing being called out and her writing for Bonnie has been called out in the past and JP's pride/ego doesn't like to admitting to mistakes and fixing them, so she stays the course.

She keeps writing for Bonnie the way that she does to prove to herself that she isn't problematic and to force Bonnie fans to accept the writing and act like we should all be embracing and loving it.


I thoroughly agree. She is a very biased writer. When I read or watch something I shouldn't be able to easily tell that the author plays favorites with certain characters or holds an unholy grudge against others.

She is really entitled to thinking that Bonnie fans are suppose to be happy with anything that she throws out.


She proved that back when she pulled that Jamie mess.

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The very things that Bonnie fans say that we hate written for Bonnie the most and the things that Bonnie fans request that she stop writing for Bonnie are the very things that she seems to focus on in her writing for Bonnie. Making sure that Bonnie stays on the path and seems to write for certain stories/plots for Bonnie on purpose knowing that it will irritate Bonnie fans, but does it because her ego and pride doesn't like how she has been called out for her writing for Bonnie.

It seems to be singled out for Bonnie tho, since she can have other fandoms call her out when they don't like the writing for Elena/Caroline etc.....but seems to get extra defensive/offended when a Bonnie fans has a problem with her writing.

Some DE Stans can threaten her and call her names if they don't think that they are getting the endgame that they want. Yet she makes sure that she goes out her her way to try and please and cater to them and try to reassure them that they will get their endgame and that Nina will come back. So for sure it's something that she has against Bonnie/Bonnie fans,

When a Delena fan asked her about Damon's suffering this season and talked about how Stefan had none. JP even answered the DE Stan and said that Damon's happiness was in reach, while adding that Stefan's pain is going to come along. smh. She'll answer DE Stans questions.

But. ignores/avoids Bonnie fan questions most of the time.

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Exactly!

Bonnie was trapped with Kai after Damon left the prison world. There was no attempted sexual assault

Bonnie was stuck with Kai after he injured her and he was also a Heretic, which meant his feelings were intensified, yet, he didn't attempt to rape Bonnie. Hell outside of magically throwing her into a wall he didn't touch Bonnie.

What would his beef with Enzo be about? Jealous that he's with Bonnie or wanting to cause Bonnie more pain? Because Kai and Enzo have never interacted.

His issues would still be with Bonnie and Damon. No one else, unless he finds out about Jo's twins surviving.


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Exactly to all of these, and it STILL wouldn't make sense since he's merged.

Although Julie can *beep* around and say his emotions are off or something. I forgot he'll still be a Heretic.

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Exactly!

Bonnie was trapped with Kai after Damon left the prison world. There was no attempted sexual assault

Bonnie was stuck with Kai after he injured her and he was also a Heretic, which meant his feelings were intensified, yet, he didn't attempt to rape Bonnie. Hell outside of magically throwing her into a wall he didn't touch Bonnie. [Quote]

It would make no sense for Kai to try and rape Bonnie now. Especially after he never tried to rape her when they were alone in the prison world...after not having human contact with a woman/or men for years.

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What would his beef with Enzo be about? Jealous that he's with Bonnie or wanting to cause Bonnie more pain? Because Kai and Enzo have never interacted.


You're right Kai never even met Enzo . So he shouldn't have a beef with him.



His issues would still be with Bonnie and Damon. No one else,unless he finds out about Jo's twins surviving .


But Bonnie had nothing to do with Jo's twins surviving. That was all Valerie and Caroline. So if he was to have a beef with anyone it should be Caroline.





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Yeah Jordan...I heard this rumor. And this why a couple of weeks back I said I in no way, shape, or form did I want Kai to come back. I knew Plec was going to pull some *beep* I hope this rumor is wrong, but given that this is Plec we are talking I think it's a distinct possibility.

Given that the Damon/Caroline controversy dogs her to this day I don't believe Julie Plec will walk into the that minefield again by having Kai succeed in raping Bonnie, but she will skirt the line by having him attempt it. This will be her way to punish Bonnie/Kai/Bonkai/Kat fans, and given what's likely coming to Enzo, I'll throw in Bonenzo fans as well. And then by having Bonnie narrowly escape the trauma and humiliation of rape Plec gets to talk out the side of her mouth about how strong and beautiful Bonnie is.

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True.

Her being so "strong" will snowball into Bonnie killing herself to be with Enzo (if he dies) thus waking up Elena. If the curse wasn't a lie, I have a feeling that Kai played the hell out of these people.

This was the reason I didn't want him back either, or I would've been cool with him being back as long as he and Bonnie didn't interact because I knew there was going to be something stupid like this.



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When I first read it, it sounded made up. And I wish I could say that no way the show wouldn't do it. But Julie Plec is a narcissist who does petty things to piss off fans she doesn't like/agree with. And she does seem to hate BonKai and BonKai shippers, so while I can't see an outright attempted rape, I can see Kai threatening it (probably veiled). Or some scenario where the threat of sexual assault is implied.

I kind of don't think Chris Wood would agree to come back for a rape storyline though. He loved that character and I can't see him wanting to ruin it like that. That is the one piece of this that gives me hope it isn't happening.

I do think that if it isn't rape, it will be a storyline that further drives the stake into Bonkai's heart. Either Kai completely ignores Bonnie and fixates on Damon (or Caroline or Elena) or he tries to kill her.

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I would like to say that I don't believe it, but a big part of me does. This lady is simply petty that way.

Personally I thought Kai would come back in love with Caroline, but would also attempt to kill Bonnie and Damon. This is more depraved that I anticipated, but when I take the time to think about it....yeah, I could see her going this route. Kai may not attempt to rape her but I am willing to bet you he will assault her.

My biggest question is the killing of Enzo. What purpose would that serve at this point?


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If she goes this far then it's truly out of spite/hate for Bonnie and her fans. I think that her writing Bonnie the way she is with Enzo this season is to be spiteful and stuck in her ways.

But this would really cross the line and is even low for JP.

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Definitely.

I noticed that when Bonnie fans complained about her isolation. She's always isolated, every season she finds a way to do this, this time around it is her romance with Enzo.

But this is ridiculously over the top. Not only would Kat attempt to sexually assault her, but she also loses her boyfriend?





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Kai killing Enzo to make Bonnie suffer is kind of like...the exact type of petty JP is. A rape storyline might raise too many eyebrows, but killing Enzo means Bonnie suffers once again and also it being at the hands of Kai means another blow to Bonkai...

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I know, but it's overkill. But she tweeted that Bonnie will have a surprising, yet, deserved ending. We all know Julie feels Bonnie deserves nothing, so I'm not too optimistic on her future.


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Maybe Bonnie will die for her friends like she always wanted?

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Maybe Bonnie will die for her friends like she always wanted?


Then she'll be with grams! Just like she always deserved. See? Happy ending.

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I kind of don't think Chris Wood would agree to come back for a rape storyline though. He loved that character and I can't see him wanting to ruin it like that. That is the one piece of this that gives me hope it isn't happening.


Even though we like Chris he's still an up and coming actor trying to make it in Hollywood. So I can totally see him taking on his most recognizable role to date on again. He still got to eat.

That said I don't know much about Hollywood. I don't know if they necessarily had to tell him about the upcoming storyline. They might have just said "Hey, wanna play Kai again?" he said "hell yeah" and then found out what was going down after he signed the contract.

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That's true. He is on another CW show though playing the love interest (probably) for Supergirl, so I can at least see there being a legitimate argument made that it wouldnt be in CW's best interest to have him portrayed as a rapist.

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Made a thread on this but deleted it since there already is one made. Yeah someone sent me an anon saying that a "source" said that this would happen. And for all that JP did to hurt/harm Bonnie, I hope that she is decent enough not to let this happen and that it won't happen.

One more painful thing to do to Bonnie on top of everything else, it's disgusting especially knowing the issue that people have with Damon/Caroline and for her to turn around and have it done to Bonnie, for what reason is it needed especially in the last season of the series. JP doing it would only prove that she just loves finding ways to hurt Bonnie and to put her through pain.

And Kai should stay dead if that would be his purpose. When fans always ask for something JP turns it into the worse case that she can. Like asking Bonnie for a love story and she makes Bonnie isolated with Enzo and suicidal over him. Fans ask for Kai back and she would bring him back as an attempted rapist? that's just sick.

Julie Plec truly does write things to spite Kat/Bonnie and her fans. And some really believe that writing Bonnie with Enzo meant that JP has Bonnie's best interest at heart this season or that the writing for Bonnie has improved. smh.

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And Kai should stay dead if that would be his purpose.


We come from opposite ends when it comes to Kai but I agree with you on this. I thought Kai should stay dead the moment I heard rumors of his coming back.

And some really believe that writing Bonnie with Enzo meant that JP has Bonnie's best interest at heart this season or that the writing for Bonnie has improved. smh.


Never trust Plec. I stopped giving her the benefit of the doubt at some point during the fourth season.

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Sorry, but bull sh**.. killing maybe, something wicked will prob come Bonnie's way but not rape.

We're all on our way out, act accordingly.

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This will absolutely NOT happen. Calm down people.

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Wait. What? The only person that needs to come out of Hell is Katherine Pierce, That's it, anyone else do not care about, at all. The only other person I would care about would be Grams, but she's not in hell. Kai is not needed, NO, No.

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I would love to see Katherine come back and kill Sybil and kai

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