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The only thing that can prove Damon is selfless


Is to give Stefan and Elena a chance to get back together without his interference. #stelena

It's going to be Pee Pee Pants City here REAL soon -Negan

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What???

She does not love him. He does not love her like that anymore. She ditched him for his brother the moment she broke up with him. No, he deserves better.


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At this point Stelena would make zero sense. Maybe if there had been buildup but that ship was pretty much crushed and buried mid season 5. Plus Stefan has long moved on people just can't accept that.

In season 6 Stefan even acknowledged that Elena in the end was what brought him and Damon back together again.

If a Stelena endgame somehow happens it will make this entire season and really anything past 4 a huge waste and not make sense. Even with a time jump it would feel sloppy. It would remind me of HIMYM ending honestly which was the worst series finale I've ever seen!

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At this point Stelena would make zero sense. Maybe if there had been buildup but that ship was pretty much crushed and buried mid season 5. Plus Stefan has long moved on people just can't accept that.

If a Stelena endgame somehow happens it will make this entire season and really anything past 4 a huge waste and not make sense. Even with a time jump it would feel sloppy.




^this.


In season 6 Stefan even acknowledged that Elena in the end was what brought him and Damon back together again.



LOL these writers have different view of looking at things.


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I always wondered if maybe they'd go back and revisit Stelena but they never did. In fact they continued to bury that ship and kill it lol.

Also honestly after rewatching I realized Delena was always a presence even during the Stelena period. I didn't see it at first but now I do.

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Also honestly after rewatching I realized Delena was always a presence even during the Stelena period. I didn't see it at first but now I do.


^ this.

I was just telling this to someone the other day; when I first saw them sharing a scene, I had an idea.

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Ha?He lost her when he left her. And despite of his behavior she fought for him like no one did.But in next episode, they will state that Caroline is the love of his life. Elena deserves better than to be 2nd choice.

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Lol caroline is the second choice after Elena did not work out. Hence, how pathetic he rejected Caroline so many times before the unrealistic writing writers have to pull because God forbids Caroline go on a season without a love interests.

It's going to be Pee Pee Pants City here REAL soon -Negan

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It's called character growth.

Honestly if Damon dies and Caroline dies or randomly decides to go find Klaus and they would stick Stefan and Elena together by default that would feel like second choice.

If you've watched the show you can see how Stefan and Caroline's relationship evolved. Perhaps the most "normal" and accurate depiction of true love on a show about supernatural beings. I enjoyed Stelena too. They had their time. I'll always like their past but I also pay attention and take in the story being shown to me. Caroline is not "second choice."

People really need to step outside of their little ship wars and just take it all in.

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Precisely. Elena would be second choice if she goes back to Stefan .She deserves better

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OMG your post is AMAZING it just hit every point on target about the whole Stefan/Elena relationship which has been long over, but some shippers can't move past them - Elena fell in love w/Damon she made that choice on her OWN! Yeah Stefan was hurt at first but he eventually got over it. I will admit that I did like the "early part" of Stefan/Elena's relationship, like when they first met and were together much earlier in the relationship. But as Lilrunner1485 said they had their time.

Caroline/Stefan's relationship was different b/c they were VERY CLOSE friends, even before her mother passed away but as time went by they got closer and eventually fell in love. I must add he was REALLY there for her when her mom was dying though, and did everything possible to prepare Caroline and took care of her and her mother. I would NEVER say Caroline was "second choice", they have been through so much since they have got together as a couple and LITERALLY had to fight to get back together again and they NEVER give up on each other - Caroline is pissed at Stefan but she knows that is NOT the real him, NOT the man she is so in love with. She is still fighting to get him back but is trying different ways for him to turn his humanity back on. Stefan had to do the same when Caroline turned her humanity off, he fought to get her back as well. I love them as a couple obviously.

I won't forget the past he had w/Elena b/c they did love each other but again that was the past and Caroline IS to be his future.

*** Lilrunner1485 your post is inspirational b/c you said everything perfectly and you right people need to take a step outside ship wars and take it all in. It looks like we are all in for some twists, turns coming our way.

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Yeah but he isn't, so. Or maybe he's doing Stefan a solid by keeping Elena away from him.



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Damon is selfish. So, not a chance. If anything, I hope Elena stops being the brothers whore. But if I had to chose. Definitely Stelena. Dullena is gross (he screwed her *beep* mother!) and annoying. So many things stopped making sense, for them to happen. The necklace story, the sire bond, Stefan's choice to respect whichever way Elena decides to live her vampire feeding habits. Human Elena chosing Stefan, before dying. And now, if Elena forgives Damon, for all the sht he's done, when she was out. There will be more writing inconsistencies to add to the list. And the show needs to end with the little dignity it has left. So single Elena or Stelena, with a very convincing explanation, as endgame.

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She's never been anyone's wh....and no Stelena,thank you.

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No Dullena, thank you. Sorry, but she was. Even the writers treated her this way, when they were on a Delena fan pleasing high. Why do you think Nina Dobrev left?

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Nina never prefer stelena. She left because she's awkward around her ex, Ian. Not because of dullena.

It's going to be Pee Pee Pants City here REAL soon -Negan

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Awkward pretending to be in love with her ex. Which is the same. Actually, we don't know which ship she prefers.

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Nina departure had nothing to do with Ian.She thinks delena is toxic.And she wanted Elena to be killed off or to move on from both brothers and start a new life at the end of s6

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Sorry but I don't consider her behavior wh...ish.Only in your head she was.The writers sure didn't treat her that way.I'm not delena fan,I'd take delena over stelena anyday.

Nina left because it wasn't interesting for her anymore as an actress.She's been full circle with her characters and it was time for her to move on

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What did Elena do, besides being Damon's bitch, since season 4?!...
She left because she was sick of her character being the catalyst of the tacky Dullena fanservicing. And I understand completely.

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Is that what you keep telling yourself as a delusional stelena fan?

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Says the Dullena twat...

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Come on now, Elena is not a whore.


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Damon disappeared to a prison world for months and Elena wiped all her loving memories of Damon away. Elena still did not gravitate back to Stefan. They are done.

Also, Damon is continually showing he is selfless. He is in this mess and without Elena because he was selfless and continues to be selfless. He isn't a saint but his capacity to act selflessly is just as much a part of him as his selfishness- just like the rest of them.

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I don't understand why this is so hard for Stelena fans to grasp. ELENA IS IN LOVE WITH HIS BROTHER. If her romance with Stefan was meant to be and so epic, she would not have fallen for Damon. It just wouldn't have happened. Not to mention that at this point, Stefan (with his humanity on) is in love with Caroline and she with him. Can you imagine how utterly awkward it would be if Stefan and Elena were to hook up again? I imagine Caroline and Damon would not ever be okay with it- and it would make no sense.

No one can judge or stop you from shipping whomever you choose- but please don't fabricate events and deny cold hard facts.

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That's kind weird. They are not in love with each other anymore.

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