I knew it! Bonnie can't be allowed to be happy. I knew they were going to kill Enzo. So both Caroline and Elena is going to have their dream wedding,and once again Bonnie would be utterly alone. But no, she will have Jeremy. I hate that they never allowed Bonnie to be happy. For the first time she ever been allowed to put herself first, she is automatically punished for it.
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Like I tried to say earlier no Bonnie fan can put full faith and trust into JP. And when I tried to point out Bonnie's mistreatment I just got accused of being a "bitter Bamon fan" and some acted like Bonnie's treatment was improved this season, but those were just happy that Bonenzo was happening and couldn't see/understand that JP does not care about Bonnie. BE was more to shut Bonnie fans up than it was because of JP actually caring about the character.
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Bonnie's job is to serve, she can't do that if she's being "selfish" and in love, not to mention something had to trigger her powers.
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Bonnie's job is to serve, she can't do that if she's being "selfish" and in love, not to mention something had to trigger her powers.
I know it is very upsetting but if Kat was not oKAY with her character writing she would have left after her contract was over. LIke I said in that thread I started, the actor/ actress like to see ups and down in their character and not have a smooth ride.
Why do you think IAN, Paul and NIna wanted their character to die at the end of series?
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I know it is very upsetting but if Kat was not oKAY with her character writing she would have left after her contract was over. LIke I said in that thread I started, the actor/ actress like to see ups and down in their character and not have a smooth ride.
Why do you think IAN, Paul and NIna wanted their character to die at the end of series?
I meant for the past eight season. She is still on the show. Originally everyone had 6 year contract, right? If she was upset with her writing she would have left the the show after 6th season..
Anyways see she wanted her character to die too. JOMO wants the same for his character.
That gains their character sympathy. Right now 80% of TVD fans are incensed with what Happened to her..
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Well Ian has complained about the writing and Paul has been making jokes about the show for a while and they choose to come back. So it's not just Kat
shareYeah, and they do it a lot more overtly than she does. I think everyone just kind of collectively decided to stick it out until 8 and push for better stories for their characters.
shareNot trying to be mean, but if they leave where do you think they are going? It's not like any of them are in high demand. Nina left 2 years ago and is now doing nothing of significance (a triple x were she's a nobody character, a few low bunch movies in production, a guest spot on tv).
Ian will likely find another role, Paul will likely land another job (although whether that's in front of behind the camera is to be seen) but the others? They are essentially the Ashley Tisdales of the show, you recognise them, know their names but it's not like anyone is looking for them specifically for a new project, it's back to auditioning and being rejected in 99% of the auditions and if they are lucky they might get another role otherwise it's just a bunch of guest roles and made for tv movies.
Add in that most of them have a networth of less than $4mil it's not like they can afford to retire unless they want to live an average life outside of a city given average wage and years worked for the US.
Nina left knowing that roles won't be handed to her over a plate, she's enjoying the challenge, she got so many offers vampire/horror movies related but been there, done that. Se's not interested. Nina knows exactly what she's doing, is aware that the transition from tv to movies takes work,time and luck
shareI wonder if the purpose of Enzo dying was so she would get her powers back?
Did anybody else see that wave of energy at the end or was that just my imagination?
If there is a reason Bonnie never got her powers back before, it has slipped my mind. I don't always pay attention :S
Maybe bonnie would commit suicide after deciding she can't live without Enzo. Hence, Elena waking up in the end.
shareNo way. She is not that weak. Suicide is sign of weakness. I think she will turn into vampire.
And I really dont see her sacrificing herself for Elena BUT you never know. Realistically she shouldnt.
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Why not? Her sacrifice(suicide) won't be in vain and Bonnie knows that. She may not be sacrificing for Elena, but maybe for Damon or Caroline this time. Plus, why would she become a vampire if there won't be Enzo? That would be pointless.
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WHy for Damon or Caroline?
I didnt see she will choose to become that. Someone will turn her.
I have a feeling Enzo will come back esp if the rumors about him getting a spinoff are true.
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There was no point to the Bonenzo romance except to ultimately punish Bonnie (and make me want to stab my eyes out). Julie, true to form.
shareEnzo is not going to die, she's obviously going to make some kind of deal with Cade to get him back. There's no way they'll let him die off
shareWhat could she offer? In 4000 years Cade has used immortals as his servants. Psychics and now vampires. The psychics can be made immortal while keeping their power and vampires are immortal. Bonnie would be powerless as an immortal unless she turns. Now maybe if she hadn't been instrumental in the destruction of the other side, she could offer millions of supernatural souls, but that's no longer an option.
Not to mention, Enzo is a turncoat as he was already in service to Cade by way of Cybil and neither of them seemed to care about losing him on top of him as a Stefan kill being an evil soul for Cade to send to Hell.
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Well, since Mcqueen is rumored to come back for the finale, I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to go down that road again -.-
People can hate Bonnie and Enzo as a couple all they want, but it's infinitely better than what she had with Jeremy. This was her first mature relationship, and going back to that immature puppy love would be degrading to her character. Not to mention that Jeremy ignored and cheated on her with a ghost.
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Bonnie hasn't had any mature relationships. She's had multiple toxic relationships. Even her friendships are one-sided. Her relationship with Enzo made zero sense and just made it seem like she was a desparete dumb ass that can be broken until hate turns into love.
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I've seen people use the word 'toxic' to describe their relationship on this board all the time, but in my opinion this is the least toxic relationship she's had on the show. As you said, her friendships are one-sided, so this was the first time I saw anyone appreciate her. I'm not a shipper, but I don't get the hate they're getting. What exactly is the problem that people have with them being together?
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Im not a shopper either. There was nothing organic about their relationship. There was a time jump and boom, Bonnie and Enzo were a thing, even though she clearly expressed hatred for him just before. People don't like it because it was contrived and seemed to be nothing more than, put Bonnie with another dead end romance partner. They took potentially the most powerful person on the show and regulated her to only making out every time she was on camera since the show came back on. Nothing about losing her powers or even attempting to gain them back, just oh Enzo I love you soooo much out of nowhere.
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I see. I used to think the same until we could see the backstory in the flashbacks, and still wasn't completely sold on it until a few episodes ago.
I didn't care much for Enzo, but he grew on me this season. In my opinion, Bonnie was strong for so long, fighting other people's battles, she deserves to be happy even if it means spending all her screen time making out. She didn't get to have that for 8 seasons, while other characters did.
Also, I don't see their romance being a dead end any more than others' on this show, nor does it make her any weaker. Elena hated Damon before they were a thing, Caroline hated Klaus, Stefan thought Caroline was a whiny control freak. Why should Bonnie not be allowed to change her opinion about someone without being weak.
Her losing her powers was maybe the best thing that happened to her because they never brought her any good,but reduced her to a plot device to be used when all else fails. It's kind of refreshing to see her on screen when her lines don't begin with "phasmatos.. " something.
That's just my two cents. I see that most people on the board wouldn't agree
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Everything you said I agree with 100% and it's so nice to see someone thinking the same!
What's okay for Caroline and Elena isn't for Bonnie apparently. She has to be strong all the time and can have no weak moments. I've loved the sides of Bonnie we've seen this season, even the irrationally stupid ones and the cheesy romantic ones. It's just such a nice change of pace for her character. Why can't she do dumb things for love like everyone else on the show has? I just wish it happened sooner instead of the last season.
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Everything you said I agree with 100% and it's so nice to see someone thinking the same!
What's okay for Caroline and Elena isn't for Bonnie apparently. She has to be strong all the time and can have no weak moments. I've loved the sides of Bonnie we've seen this season, even the irrationally stupid ones and the cheesy romantic ones. It's just such a nice change of pace for her character. Why can't she do dumb things for love like everyone else on the show has? I just wish it happened sooner instead of the last season.
But she didn't put herself first. She put Damon and Elena first, which is why Enzo is dead. If she really wanted to be happy she would have turned instead of suggesting him turning mortal. So this is no different than anything she's done. Put her life on hold to make things easy for her friends, and all for nothing. Lucky for her that she didn't stupidly give Enzo the cure, because then they'd both be dead and in Hell, because Stefan was coming regardless and her bestie was so busy trying to save Elena he neglected to warn Miss Afterthought about it.
The Bonnie Enzo crapfest is criticised by me because it was forced and not a likely pairing which at the end of the day offered absolutely no growth for Bonnie and did more to try to make Enzo likable and redeemable via Bonnie.
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But she didn't put herself first. She put Damon and Elena first, which is why Enzo is dead. If she really wanted to be happy she would have turned instead of suggesting him turning mortal. So this is no different than anything she's done. Put her life on hold to make things easy for her friends, and all for nothing. Lucky for her that she didn't stupidly give Enzo the cure, because then they'd both be dead and in Hell, because Stefan was coming regardless and her bestie was so busy trying to save Elena he neglected to warn Miss Afterthought about it.
The Bonnie Enzo crapfest is criticised by me because it was forced and not a likely pairing which at the end of the day offered absolutely no growth for Bonnie and did more to try to make
Even the flashbacks were contrived nonsense. The relationship was a literal dead end because he died. Her powers were the most interesting thing about her. After she lost them, you'd think they find a personality to make her interesting, but no they saddled her with a useless character that should have died seasons ago to give her something to do, but never gave her purpose. She was just as boxed in as an afterthought as she ever was before. At least with magic she was useful. As a powerless love interest for a supporting character she was nothing, but a powerless love interest for a supporting character.
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ven the flashbacks were contrived nonsense. The relationship was a literal dead end because he died. Her powers were the most interesting thing about her. After she lost them, you'd think they find a personality to make her interesting, but no they saddled her with a useless character that should have died seasons ago to give her something to do, but never gave her purpose. She was just as boxed in as an afterthought as she ever was before. At least with magic she was useful. As a powerless love interest for a supporting character she was nothing, but a powerless love interest for a supporting character.
This. Enzo is terrible, Jeremy was ok as a brief storyline, but after he cheated on her it really needed to be done. This final season, they brought on Dorian and Georgie. They could have dropped one of them and brought on a new love interest for Bonnie. Enzo made no sense at all (I would have been ok if Enzo was just her side piece, but her loving him makes 0 sense with her character).
shareYeah. I feel like they used Bonnie just to make other characters more relevant. They did this with both Enzo and Jeremy. While I enjoyed some scenes between Bonnie and Enzo it never seemed that organic. They genuinely lack the history that most other major couples have on this show. When she enters a relationship it kind of just happens rather then there being a built of history or acknowledgement of pre-existing attraction between two characters. I'm still not over the "three years of history" in a flashback. It was utterly pathetic. And Jeremy. He left before Bonnie could even escape the prison world. I understand the actor was leaving for a particular reason. But who does that? Like even if the relationship between the two of them had just ended, who just leaves not knowing the fate of their ex-girlfriend? And who just cheats on their girlfriend, rather than telling her that he may have lingering feelings for a dead person?
They never really wanted to invest in Bonnie's character and it shows.
Well, since Mcqueen is rumored to come back for the finale, I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to go down that road again -.-
People can hate Bonnie and Enzo as a couple all they want, but it's infinitely better than what she had with Jeremy. This was her first mature relationship, and going back to that immature puppy love would be degrading to her character. Not to mention that Jeremy ignored and cheated on her with a ghost.
Not sure about Caroline ending up happy seeing as Bonnie injected Stefan with the cure. Now the only way to stop Cade would be to remove the cure from Stefan which would kill him since he's hundreds of years old. Damon and Elena may be the only happy ending for this show.
shareNot sure about Caroline ending up happy seeing as Bonnie injected Stefan with the cure. Now the only way to stop Cade would be to remove the cure from Stefan which would kill him since he's hundreds of years old. Damon and Elena may be the only happy ending for this show.