wouldn't it be crazy if they end up together again?
I know it won't happen because of all the circulating spoilers but it could be "the universe wants us together" thing again, wouldn't it be ironic?
Anyways, I guess I always wanted Stefan to be human and Damon well be a vampire cause he is so good at it, also because Stefan wanted to be human more than Damon. Maybe I just feel really bad for Stefan now, who knows
No thanks. Stelena died years ago and in the previous episode they stated that Caroline was the love of his life. Elena deserves better than being 2nd choice.And the fact that he wanted to kill her by drowing her,no less, makes him unredeemable for me
shareWas Damon irredeemable to you when he told Stefan "I hope Elena..dies"?
shareIndeed.I don't want Elena with neither.But even in his darkest times at no point Damon thought about killing Elena the very same way her parents died, she almost died and in fact died with
shareImo, continually going after Elena's loved ones is just as evil as going after her personally, at least it would be for me. I could never date or fall in love with a guy snaps my brother's neck, or assaults my best friend. So Stefan and Damon are pretty equally unworthy to me.
shareOh I agree....That's why I'll never understand Elena even considering giving Damon a chance. Now as a vampire , I could see them have a hot sexual affair but that's it. Her falling in love with him was beyond absurd.
shareI agree. Elena's character was kind of degraded after season 4.
shareThere are very few relationships shown on these two shows where the character has not deteriorated after they started their love affair. I think Steroline is one of them. I think Haylijah, Klamille, Damon are the ones in which Hayley, cami and Elena got worse with the passage of time just in the name of love. Both people in these relationships do anything/ forgive the other to make the other happy which is how things work in real life too and it is human nature to do that but that just comes off bad.
I agree with your assessment of Elena with regard to Delena but her falling for him was not realistic but ther is a reason this saying is popular. good girls attracted to bad boys. her forgiving damon for killing her bro was absurd.
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I'd argue they've done "bad for the right reasons" with Klaus on TO right. I don't think he has abruptly and childishly snapped in a extreme murder fit yet. IMO they've done him justice.
share"bad for the right reasons" with Klaus on TO right.
I don't think he has abruptly and childishly snapped in a extreme murder fit yet. IMO they've done him justice.
The art critic wasn't justified, and at that point in the series made no sense, to me that just seemed plot convient to throw suspicion off Lucien as the serial killer.
S2 Klaus was in the right IMO. He had the right to protect his child and Hayley and Elijah took that away from him. He had a plan and they ruined it because they foolishly wanted to trust the werewolves could take on Dahlia. Not only that,
But Freyas plan was also going to fail, which Klaus knew because they had the wrong blood or whatever. Once they completely excluded him from the situation by force, he took matters in his own hands to protect Hope and in the end he got the job done. The entire thing was a facade to protect Hope which he completely explains to Elijah and Rebekah, he did what he did to Hayley because she was planning on running away with their daughter.
Cami taking the horse and stuff was her nutty experience with vampirism, caused by Aurora.
Cami taking the horse and stuff was her nutty experience with vampirism, caused by Aurora.
S2 Klaus was in the right IMO. He had the right to protect his child and Hayley and Elijah took that away from him. He had a plan and they ruined it because they foolishly wanted to trust the werewolves could take on Dahlia. Not only that,
But Freyas plan was also going to fail, which Klaus knew because they had the wrong blood or whatever. Once they completely excluded him from the situation by force, he took matters in his own hands to protect Hope and in the end he got the job done. The entire thing was a facade to protect Hope which he completely explains to Elijah and Rebekah, he did what he did to Hayley because she was planning on running away with their daughter.
How was that Aurora's fault? Cami was upset with Klaus and she took the horse. When she was talking to Vincent about her stealing the horse, she knew why she did that. Everything was in her control. My point is Klaus wouldnt have forgiven anyone else if they had done what Cami did. He probably would ahve killed them for causing that kind of betrayal and damage to the family but since he liked/ loved Cami, he forgave her.
Many people who supported Klamille or liked Cami were not bothered by why klaus forgave Cami. Cami was totally in control and she looked in control too. Klaus was angry with Cami but Hayley placated him by giving the same logic that you are giving but we as audience saw different side of Cami and her actions when we saw her convo with Vincent and then with Klaus. She was def in Control of what she did. You just need to watch her actions/ facial expressions (e.g when she was conveying condolence to Hayley about Jackson. She was basically manipulating her) to see how much control she was in. Klaus took her dark object coz he was afraid of HOW SHE WOULD USE Them now that she was a vampire (lost her humanity and all). I think he might have been scared of the possibility that she might use them on Mikaelsons now. She stole in retaliation but an object that could kill them and she did it knowingly. Because of her mistake Aurora got to make those bullets and could have killed Elijah if Klaus had not saved him.
Of course the people who liked Cam including Cami herself were bothered by why he let AUrora live but Klaus had feelings for Aurora still (cannon) so it is understandable that he let her live. But yes they all could have been killed very easily. Letting them live till the end of the season was just a stupid plot.
I think Klaus forgave her too easily for a crime which was if not bigger than not smaller either than what Hayley did to him by trying to steal Hope from him (also a crime for which she got punished really bad) just because of Klamille. But at least Hope was going to live. What Cami did ended up almost killing Elijah, and put others including himself in danger.
We are getting off topic. I was just showing that when in couple one tends to support the other despite their feelings towards that particular action.
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If she were truly in control of her emotions and how she handled them, she wouldn't have been behaving the way that she was. It's not like emotionally stable, human Cami went around acting like that, so it's safe to say that her anger and desire for vengeance were in the driver's seat for Cami. In the same way that Haley was consumed by pain and anger after she was turned.
Of course the people who liked Cam including Cami herself were bothered by why he let AUrora live but Klaus had feelings for Aurora still (cannon) so it is understandable that he let her live.
We are getting off topic. I was just showing that when in couple one tends to support the other despite their feelings towards that particular action.
I'm more bothered by it because keeping her alive meant him and his family were still in danger. It was definitely a dumb plot. And I don't fully understand how Klaus' feelings for Aurora justified him not eliminating a very dangerous threat to his family, but him forgiving Cami for a reckless mistake is unbelievable so I'll agree to disagree.
If she were truly in control of her emotions and how she handled them, she wouldn't have been behaving the way that she was. It's not like emotionally stable, human Cami went around acting like that, so it's safe to say that her anger and desire for vengeance were in the driver's seat for Cami. In the same way that Haley was consumed by pain and anger after she was turned.
It wasn't really Camis place though, even as his therapist. To anyone but Elijah I believe it was almost a non-issue.
Every action has a reaction, Hayley didn't trust Klaus, but trusted Jackson, she fled the safe house that they built specifically for Hope and did exactly what Dahlia wanted. It was a mind game and Klaus knew that. When Hayley's action was to take Hope away, Klaus reacted in anger. I don't agree with the lengthy she pushed but I also can't act like Hayley didn't cause said problem. Dahlia wasn't after Hope because of Klaus she was after her because she was a Mikaleson by blood, and Hayley couldn't change that.
Cami was blinded by her rage, which was heightened x10 because Aurora killed her, and Klaus wouldn't kill Aurora. Tbh I don't even know why we're talking about Cami lol my point was that Klaus is done justice in most of his actions, which isn't the same for this show.
except the very next scene he was bartering for her safety. he only said it bc he was angry at stefan. he didn't actually mean it.
shareHe was angry at Elena too, they played him.
share...and he still went and bartered for her safety.
I Loved that scene between the brothers and I loved how Damon delivered that line. Damon dismissed Stefans fake apologies and attempts at manipulation with the contempt it deserved.
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The writer haven't rule it out.
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I loved Selena, but that ship is done.
At this point it wouldn't make sense, unless the pull a True Blood and have them fall in love again in 24 hrs like Jason and that chick he wound up marrying.
My ass may be dumb, but I ain't no dumbass...
It would be crazy but not in a good way. Elena's love does not depend on species and this proven with how she loves Damon and he loves her.
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