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Stefan has bled out the cure


... right?

Because if a syringe of Elena's blood contained the cure, then it follows that all the pints of blood Stefan lost must have leached it away...

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Oh wow! I didn't think of that

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Well, I'm almost certain that he hasn't bled out the Cure. It just goes to show how stupid the idea that all they needed was one syringe of Elena's blood to get the Cure. At least when Silas drained Katherine dry, it made sense.

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It just goes to show how stupid the idea that all they needed was one syringe of Elena's blood to get the Cure. At least when Silas drained Katherine dry, it made sense.


I just want to add another interesting fact , When Amara died with the Original Cure , nobody thought of save some of her blood while was was dying or after she died .

And Amara spent only a few minute when she drunk the cure from Silas ,

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I think it was a day or so, she attacked and drained Silas as soon as she was woke up, then spent the next episode chained in the Salvatore basement because she was suicidal, at least I think that's how it went, but yeah apparently no one thought to be like "hey Amara you wanna die right how bout you share the cure with us, all it can do is kill you and your cool with that right?", they instead just let her die even though Stefan was right there, and wanted to be human, or so he says repeatedly then never actually acts on the chances to become one...god knows sometimes with these people.

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I don't know. It can't be a coincidence that Damon brought up the fact that Stefan lost so much blood they had to put 3 pints back into him.

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I don't know. It can't be a coincidence that Damon brought up the fact that Stefan lost so much blood they had to put 3 pints back into him.



It's not. Stefan do bleed out the cure



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The blood in the syringe has mixed in with the rest of Stefan's blood so it's in his system forever.

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In that case Elena should have some of the cure left in her system. But up to the writers, the cure isn't in her system anymore

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I mean we don't really know that you have to drink ALL of it, correct? Silas was just being a prick probably and didn't want to risk it

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Well in 5x03 he told Katherine, or Nadia I a note remember, that Katherine WAS the cure. It ran all through her veins.

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Still though it was never really confirmed if they had to drink ALL of someones blood to get the cure, right?

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It still doesn't explain how one syringe of blood is guaranteed to have the cure, either.

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It's confirmed through their actions. If it wasn't necessary to drink all of someone's blood, why was everyone so limited when they had first heard of the cure? Why couldn't everyone who wanted to be human just pump a litre of Elena's blood out and share it amongst themselves?

Not to mention, if that one random syringe of blood they took out from Elena contains the cure, then as the OP notes, why wouldn't the 3 pints of blood that Stefan bled out also contain the cure? What exactly makes its magical properties expire once a tiny amount of it has left a certain person's body? But it doesn't expire when it's left another person's body.

What made the most sense was that you had to drain the person in question. Hence, Katherine and Silas were drained to the point of near death.

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It's never really been explored in detail though, has it? I think Silas just assumed he needed all of it, as he was a prick and didn't care at all either way if Katherine lived or died.



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But Silas would be the one who knew how the cure worked and had more information about it than Bonnie ever did.

If we were to go by the assumption that Silas was just being a prick, what exactly has the show shown otherwise that makes you think that Bonnie/Caroline/Damon know something different? The transfering of the cure hasn't been explored in detail, no. but that argument works both ways. The Scooby gang don't know about it anymore than they learned from Qetsiyah and Silas, and saw through Silas/Katherine/Amara. How would they have learned something different. Where would they have gathered the knowledge about the specific quantity and method that they can use to start transfering the cure? If you're going to assume that Silas didn't know any different, then you have to be consistent and also assume that this modern generation of people who had nothing to do with the creation of the cure know even less about it.

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This plot iostyoo complicated:

First they heard about the cure. Assumed that there was enough for everyone. Turned out there was only few.

Silas claimed he needed all of Katherine's blood,he didn't drain her ,she survived but aged rapidly and had very little time to live left.So even though he didn't drink all her blood, he sucked all the cure out of her? Since she had blood left in her system, she shoukld still have a little of the cure left but it seems that no.

Then we have Elena taking the cure.Damon was supposely to suck it from her. So he didn't need to suck all of Elena's blood.That would kill her. So obviously they knew that and he just needed a little of her blood for him to be human.

Now Bonnie took a little of Elena's blood, and the writers state that there is no more cure in Elena's body.How is it possible to take all the cure with this little amount of blood?If that amount blood left Elena's body without the cure, then Stefan, who bled way more than what Bonnie took, must have bled out the cure.


It doesn't make any sense.If he still has some of the cure left in his system, so does Elena.And Damon could suck it from her.


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It is confusing but I think it goes back to season 4, "there is only one dose." If that makes any sense?

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My confusion is:

If just a little amount of blood is enough to leave Elena's body without any cure left in it, then with what Stefan bled , he shouldn't have any cure left in him.But that doesn't seem to be the case.And when someone takes the cure, doesn't it spread in all their blood system?So even if they lose a certain amount of blood, they still have the cure in the blood left in their system?Meaning that Elena must still have some of the cure left in her blood?No sense whatsoever.

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You're right, to take one syringe full of blood and pass it on as the "one cure" while the person has more blood doesn't make sense unless it can only be passed once. IDK, just guessing.

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What's ridiculous is that the quantity of blood that's required to transfer the cure is decreasing with every passing season. For Silas, it was almost draining Katherine of all her blood. We all thought she died. Then for Amara, she had to suck on Silas's blood...maybe not to the point of draining him but enough to weaken him a little. Now you have Elena who only got one blood tests worth of blood taken from her.

Soon it'll be just a prick of the finger and the cure will be transferred.

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I was wondering the same thing. I mean if one rather large syringe eliminated the cure from Elena's body, I was thinking heck one cold & having to have blood work done & the cure is gone/wasted. This is a huge plothole they created with that darn syringe LOL.

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Yet another TVD classic plot hole lol

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Exactly

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I'm not trying to be gross, and maybe I don't know that much about how this actually works since I'm not a female, but wouldn't that also mean that the cure would/could have been drained a little bit "each month" for Elena any way or any other female vampire that took the cure to become human if the syringe was enough?

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No, just no, ok?

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Hey, it's not an illogical assumption. The writers led us to believe a syringe full of her blood was enough to swipe the cure so, that means that's the amount of blood Elena had to bleed out in order to dump the cure. Considering there is pretty much a guarantee that at some point she'd bleed out, that was a lousy way to do it.

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Her periods....If the little amount of blood Bonnie took was enough to leave Elena's body without cure left in it, so by the time Bonnie took it, Elena had no cure left in her body and it shouldn't have worked on Stefan.Another thing that makes zero sense.

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That's assuming Elena had enough time to go through that before Bonnie took the cure. Stefan's human so she didn't, but I'm just saying if that little syringe was enough, the cure wouldn't have lasted long in Elena's body based upon that logic alone considering what females go through once a month.

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Elena has been sleeping for 5 years so of course she had her periods during that time. So if the amount of blood Bonnie took was enough to take the cure out of her, so the logic says that there was no cure in what Bonnie took. So if it worked on Stefan, logic says that Elena must have some cure left in her body.But the writers says that she has no cure left in her body, so this doesn't make any sense.

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She's under a magic sleeping spell that stops her from aging and essentially "freezes" her in time. She's likely not getting periods.

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Oh, ok, thanks

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If the writers aren't complete morons this is probably going to be how Stefan dies. Remember, we didn't find out about Katherine after Silas drained her until I think a couple of episodes later. It also took a few episodes before she finally aged/died also.

ETA:

This is also probably why those spoiler pictures showed Stefan and Caroline's wedding happening in March. They'll likely tie the knot ASAP to live out their last days as husband and wife before Stefan croaks.

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They're wedding is a ploy to get Katherine out in the open

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They need to make Elena a vampire again... screw this human endgame crap I hate it. So dumb.

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I can understand them wanting to give Elena a normal life, but it didn't make sense to do it on a whim.

I don't think Kai's curse was specific to non Vampires, not to mention the fact that their entire group seems to always be in danger, so for them to choose to cure her on a whim after years of nonstop threats against them was a little premature.


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Really?Elena wants kids and vampires can't procreate. Elena hates hurting/killing people and vampire live feeding on people...So no, it's not dumb

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But why does Elena want kids?

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lol you didnt really ask that?!

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Admittedly, I always thought how stupid it was that in season 2 John sacrificed his life for Elena so she'll have a chance to have a child - then 1 year later she pisses all over his noble sacrifice and becomes a vampire.





However, I can't stand it when people (characters in the show or real life fans) keep saying how bad it is to be a vampire -

In this show, vampires have 0(!) negative consequences for being vampires. They don't even mind walking in sunlight.

If you give me the chance to be immortal and forever look like an A&E model while also having super powers? I'd take it in a heart bit!



This whole thing about putting innocent lives in danger is dumb. They don't really have to kill. People will donate blood willingly.
And as for their general trouble of the week, that happens anyway. Elena was a target long before she became a vampire.


In this particular universe? Being a vampire is wonderful.
The fact that all of the characters on this show being mass murderers is because of their stupid decisions.

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^ this

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I agree!!

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