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One of my biggest problems with this film


One of my biggest hates in regards to not only this film, but all 3 Michael Bay Transformer movies is the sheer brutality the Autobots display.

I'm watching Dark of the Moon on tv right now, and the scene that really enforces this is with the Wreckers and the Decepticon pilot.

3 of the movies "heroic" Autobots brutally slay a defenseless Decepticon by pulling him apart, limbs, head, torso, hands, whatever. I'm not against that kind of violence for the movie, but far out, maybe show the "evil" Decepticons do that to an Autobot and help portray how "evil" they really are.

Prime and Bee are just as bad in the other films. Just my 2 cents

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Um. I'm pretty sure that RIGHT before they dismembered that "defenseless" Decepticon, he was explicitly shown mercilessly slaughtering an entire street full of terrified, helpless humans.

"Oh, that poor dear soul, how COULD those heartless Autobots mistreat him so cruelly!"

:'(

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So with that logic, The Avengers had every right to sadistically torture and maim the aliens that invaded New York? Like heroes do?

Shades of grey dude, not black and white. The Autobots could have killed that Con. Cool, it was a war of course. It's the method I have a problem with. Showing them tear and rip apart the enemy... the DEFENSELESS enemy, 3 on 1, is disgusting. You'd have a hard time rooting for them if the scene played out with humans and not robots.

The point is, the Autobots should have acted more heroic and the Decepticons should have delivered the brutal kills. It just makes sense.

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Well, considering that the Avengers were defending their homeworld from an invading and overwhelming force which had no regard for mankind whatsoever...sure, I'd say the kid gloves are OFF and it's a no-holds-barred situation, absolutely. War is ugly and even heroes have to do horrific things in the name of good to come out on top.

Is such behavior ideal? Certainly not. But neither is war and in neither case was it instigated by the good guys, so w/e. Like YOU just said yourself, "shades of grey, dude."

And "3 on 1," btw? Pay more attention to the movie! It was more like 200+ Decepticons vs. 9 or so Autobots.

Plus, I guess you missed it but the Wreckers are clearly defined as being @$$h0les. What were they SUPPOSED to do, kill the guy with dandelions?

And that Decepticon may have been sitting and his ship may have been shot down, but he still had some fight in him...he WAS punching his way out of his cockpit, after all. The Wreckers just had an advantage and pressed it, finishing him off pretty damned quickly no matter what you think of their methods. Sure, you could call it "torturing and maiming him," but it was still over in seconds. It's not like they left him lingering in limbo, he was dead as a doornail right away.

So what if it hurt until then? Does the guy who just invaded and destroyed a city and killed tens if not hundreds or thousands of people -- with an eye towards enslaving the entire remaining human population, no less -- REALLY deserve anything better?

The outright EVIL intentions of the Decepticons were made exceedingly clear in every single film. The Autobots were forced to do WHATEVER was necessary to put their madness to an end. Oh, no! Some Decepticons got hurt! Well, that's just too goddamned bad. But THEY started it. Reap what you sow, and all that.

Have you seen Zero Dark Thirty? Did you REALLY shed any tears for poor old bin Laden when he was defenseless and gunned down by the overwhelming forces who outnumbered him hopelessly?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

Moving on...

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You're right. Even though that Decepticon had just slaughtered a dozen humans and toasted them into smoking bones, the Wreckers shouldn't have been so harsh.

They should have run up, tickled him a bit, and asked him if they could give him a shower and scrub him up. That would have made a much better movie.

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They've lost friends, family, and their planet, how forgiving should they be, BTW they are NOT human, have NO morals or other similar programs, stop comparing them to humans!

Wasn't me

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LOL well there goes the award for the dumbest post on this IMDB board. ::claps::

The Wreckers are the black-ops, ex marine, don't give a *beep* type of autobots, sent in to get the job done, do some research before you cry about a robot "killing" another robot in a movie lol.

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For some reason, it felt like at the end of DOTM, if it came down to it, Optimus Prime had 'had all he could stands, and he can't stands no more!'

My guess is he figured the Decepticons would honor their word and let the Autobots leave in peace...but when it seems you can't even trust a Decepticon...well, all bets are off.

Besides, Optimus seemed a little to blame for what happened as well. After the whole Space Bridge opening in DC, he lets Sentinel go.


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3 of the movies "heroic" Autobots brutally slay a defenseless Decepticon by pulling him apart, limbs, head, torso, hands, whatever. I'm not against that kind of violence for the movie, but far out, maybe show the "evil" Decepticons do that to an Autobot and help portray how "evil" they really are.
I thought that was totally called for, the Decepticon had just slaughtered many innocent people.

However I was a little disturbed by the Autobots endangering/injuring/killing innocent people during the car chase though.

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