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What was so "wrong" about Letos Joker?

posted 8 years ago by chriso32394
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look i'm not here to adamantly defend the movie and say its perfect. The film has ALOT of flaws but for me the good outweigh the bad and its a pretty enjoyable experience.

Looks aside, one of the highlights for me was indeed Leto's joker. He made the character his own completely different form Nicholson's, Ledgers, or Hamill's.

I don't see what the big issue was with him. Could he have had more screen time? absolutely but i feel with any more screen time, he would overshadow the SS themselves. ITs not a Joker movie after all, and if hes not being used as a main villain, he shouldn't be in it for a substantial amount. Any more of Spider man in CW would have overshadowed the plot and other characters.

and lastly, one of the biggest accomplishments for any actor playing the Joker is transformation. And i didn't really see leto in the film, i saw this Joker.

Its fine if you didn't like him. Everyone's entitled to their opinion. But the overwhelming amount of hate hes gotten baffles me. Hes not like Lex, where Eisenberg is playing a weird, Asperger version of himself.

I honestly think some people, right or wrong, cant get Ledgers interpretation out of their head. And since Letos version didn't reach the Cali bar of Ledgers, hes being severely criticized for it. Thing is though, No one can match the level of Ledger because he gave possibly the single greatest performance in CB movie history.

[–] Castle177 8 years ago

I didn't think he was bad, just didn't sell himself much in my opinion. Maybe because a lot of him was cut out. He didn't have a defining moment, his "Why so serious?" I guess. Which sucked because I expected him to be a big part of the film. He wasn't really needed much in Suicide Squad, and as a result he just wasn't memorable.

[–] huzdaman 8 years ago

I don't think it's all Leto's fault how it turned out. He stated in an interview (sorry I don't have the link) that he was told that the movie would have more of an art-house feel to it, which informed how he would play the scenes out. He came across as real theatrical and over-the-top, which contrasts with the rest of the film.

Personally, I enjoyed his take. I don't mind the tattoos and his "grill" others seem to take issue with. I think it gives him more of a millennial edge to his design. He seemed like this generation's version of Nicholson's Joker, but with his own stamp.

I agree with Castle177, Leto's Joker did lack a defining moment, or a "money shot" as it were, though I guess you could almost count "I'm just gonna hurt you, really, really...bad" as a sort of punchline.

[–] movibiju 8 years ago

I agree with Castle177, Leto's Joker did lack a defining moment, or a "money shot" as it were, though I guess you could almost count "I'm just gonna hurt you, really, really...bad" as a sort of punchline.

Even that scene was taken from him. The scene that became iconic for a year on the internet was substituted for a much worst version of it. Why did they have to change the scene if people like it?

His character was spanked almost until death. They really wanted him to be kicked out . 

[–] Astute_Althean 8 years ago

I agree that it wasn't Leto's fault. An actor can improvise only so much and has to work with the script given to him/her. The way Joker was written should be blamed. I know, after Ledger, they had to try something different. I ,even, liked the idea of Joker being a mob boss and so forth, but I think it is a case where it might have sounded good on paper yet wasn't executed properly. To me, Joker signifies chaos and anarchy. The way he was too much attached to Harley didn't make sense after leaving her to die in the Lamborghini. As the Op said, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I should say I didn't enjoy Leto's joker as much I wanted to. Maybe, in the future movies, Joker is written better.

[–] h-dilshard 8 years ago

The only thing I didn't like was his laugh. It sounded like he was dying.

[–] alexryan31 8 years ago

I think he has the best Joker laugh so far. Ledger was amazing, but his laugh was pathetic in comparison.

[–] DarrylDixon 8 years ago

He was not psychopathic, an abusive enough. He acted more like an schoolboy, who fell in love with his girl.

[–] tomholland2016 8 years ago

He said he practiced the Joker laugh for approximately a month.

[–] Castle177 8 years ago

I really liked the laugh.

[–] markdown474 8 years ago

I think he has the best Joker laugh so far. Ledger was amazing, but his laugh was pathetic in comparison.

I'll have to watch this again when it's on dvd but I HATED Leto's Joker laugh. It sounded like a wounded seal at times.

I liked Ledger and Nicholson's laughs much better and as much as I enjoyed their performances, I don't think either of them had the perfect Joker laugh either. I would've loved to have seen the animated Joker that Hamill perfected brought to live action (although this would've required the risk of casting an unknown to get the person that does it right). The Joker-esque character of Jerome on Gotham may be as close to a perfect live version of that as I could imagine (and he wasn't even wearing make-up).

[–] mlcausey 8 years ago

Yeah, I guess my biggest issue was Joker's relationship with Harley. I get it, Harley is a central character and they spent money on the next big actress to play her. So, of course her significance to the Joker has to be emphasized. But, it didn't feel like Joker to me. Everyone is going to have their own personal interpretation. But I've always felt that the only person Joker ever obsessed over was Batman. For him to actually reciprocate Harley's obsession feels off. Makes them feel like a comic book Bonnie and Clyde, which can be compelling in its own right. Its just not Joker and Harley.

[–] CthulhuWept 8 years ago

I agree about it being weird that he was so attached to Harley. At the same time, I wonder if it could have been turned into another manipulation with a few subtle script changes. Maybe Joker was only using her to further his agenda with Batman in some way. Isn't it strange that he doesn't stick around after crashing his car into the river? He just swims away and leaves Harley there. If he cared about her as much as the rest of the movie led us to believe, I feel like he would have been trying to get her out of the car, Batman or no Batman. That he didn't indicates to me that she's not as important to him as the movie would have us think.

[–] chriso32394 8 years ago

i mean he did torture Harley by giving her Electric Shock treatment.

not to mention he was just going to leave her ass to die in the Ace chemicals.

I liked this version who actually cares about harley, because it created a complete co-dependency for each other. They love each other in their own, bizarre way and would burn the world down to be with each other.

The novelization make sit clear the original cut of the movie, He was more of the Abusive Joker towards harley. he throws her out of the helicopter near the end of the story, rather than her just falling out. Thats why she feels betrayed and throws her Puddin gold necklace.

[–] TMC-4 8 years ago

Go to the 14:34 mark:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzTEpAMH7eY

[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

Leto was okay. Just okay, but that's not good enough when you're playing The Joker. David Tennant or Matt Smith would have been better.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

[–] movibiju 8 years ago

Would David Tennant or Matt Smith have another script and also less bad and hasty scenes in suicide squad?

[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

Tennant and Smith are just infinitely better actors than Leto. They've managed to do great things in spite of subpar scripts in the past. There is no reason to assume they couldn't do it again.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

[–] movibiju 8 years ago

Jared also has done very good roles in the past.

First, the Joker in SS was completely disposable that looked more like a Cameo than anything else . Besides, tell me how would they or anyone do anything good with hasty and disjointed scenes and a very bad dialogue?

It's funny that you only blame the actor, but you forgot to blame the one who wrote the script and directed the film.

The actors have to follow a script and the director orientations. They don't create the scenes or the dialogues. The actors have little control in the outcome of the film that is why they can win Oscars with good scripts and fall under bad ones. Example: Natalie portman in black swan and in Star Wars.

In the joker case, he almost had nothing for us to see. He had almost no dialogue or anything to do.

[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

Yes, "good roles", but has he ever been "great"? He's never left an impression on me, honestly.

I do blame the script, and the casting. I don't think Leto has much to offer as the Joker even in a better script. I just told you what else Tennant or Smith could do with a bad script. I've seen them operate with subpar scripting, and they still delivered on great acting. Some actors can bring the goods under any circumstances. Others can't. Leto is the latter, and Tennant and Smith are the former.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

[–] WiretapStudios 8 years ago

Yes, "good roles", but has he ever been "great"?

He was pretty amazing in Dallas Buyers Club, which he won an Oscar for (over some other decent supporting actors for that year). I know an Oscar isn't a concrete metric, but he was also great in Requiem For A Dream, Mr. Nobody, and several smaller roles.

[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

Ah, yes, the Oscars. Hollywood's useless exclusive ass-kissing club for old white men. Yes, they're such a good way to prove someone's talented or deserves the praise they get[/sarcasm]

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

[–] fred-mor 8 years ago

Sure i mean Daniel Day Lewis is the worst actor ever, he works way too much, he is way too known and really just kiss asses all the time to Hollywood where he is a huge part, he made too many bad movies the past 15 years such as Gang Of New York, There Will Be Blood or Lincoln. Jamie Fox never won a oscar for Ray neither did Forest Whitaker for the Last King of Scotland and of course Denzel Washington for training day and of course they never give nomination to complete outsider/Forgotten/amazing actor such as Barkhad Abdi who is white by the way or Jackie Earle Haley who really did not deserve it for little children LMFAO. Try again please ! Leto does not even work much as a actor yet he is just amazing in any movies he was in, even chapter 27 was crap but he was still very good.

[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

Wow, you're a real idiot. Not the point I was making at all. I only said the Oscars are not a reliable measuring stick of quality. I didn't say that every actor who ever won one was terrible. It just doesn't prove they're great.

A few counterpoints: Jamie Fox had no business winning an Oscar for Ray. That film was cheap Oscar bait film feeding off the recent death of an icon like a parasite.
Denzel Washington deserved an Oscar way, WAY before Training Day, but he didn't deserve FOR that film. That should not have been the film he won one for, but alas, he's black and the puffy old men at Hollywood dictate that a black man can't win for an Oscar for a charming, sophisticated role. No, he had to play a boxer before he got his little golden man.

Here's a snub I would LOVE to see you try to justify: Shakespeare in Love won the Oscar for "Best Picture" over Saving Private Ryan. So your whole argument is invalid. So no, YOU try again.

And I guess we're also going to overlook all those other times films that deserved the Oscar win but ended up getting passed over due to nepotism? Don't even try to convince me that the Academy are reliable at all. They're not.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

[–] fred-mor 8 years ago

I should not even reply to you but just because you call me a idiot i will, firstable remind me for which movie Sydney Poitier won a oscar ?? A african american can't win an Oscar for a charming, sophisticated role ??? Right lmfao by the way that film was made in 1963, secontable Denzel Washington had allready won a oscar for glory so way way before training day more than 10 years before to put *beep* post is fine but at least check a minimum what you write, on the top of this he played a nasty violent cop not a boxer and yes he deserved the win over Sean Penn and Russell Crow, he was just great and by far the best performance that year and we are many to think so . I loved Shakespear in Love and also Saving Private Ryan both deserved to win in my opinion and Spielberg had won that oscar allready for Shindler's List, so i was totally fine with that and this not only a question of skin color What about many "white" actor snub then ? Peter O'tool has been nominated 10 times and never won so................ You may not like my opinion in fact if i am idiot do not even reply to me, no point and you know what ? Just go *beep* yourself LMFAO !!!!!

[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

You are an idiot.

"A adrican america can't win an Oscar for a charming, sophisticated role ???" That is how the modern academy sees it. Ooh, I got my Denzel Washington films mixed up. Big loop. Also, the fact that he won for Glory and Training Day just further backs up my claim. All those charming, sophisticated roles he did? No Oscars, but a runaway slave-come-soldier and a nasty cop? Instant Oscar material. Yeah, uh-huh.[/sarcasm]

And you just confirmed yourself to be a complete moron for saying that Shakespeare in Love deserved the win just as much as Saving Private Ryan. And no, it doesn't matter that Spielberg already had an Oscar. His film DESERVED that win. Your opinion is irrelevant. Also, I just replied to you. You don't get to tell me what to do. So you just so *beep* yourself.

Also, someone who can't use proper grammar doesn't get to tell me anything.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

[–] fred-mor 8 years ago

I just prove you, you werre wrong all the way, a african american did win a Oscar 53 years ago (the first ever by the way) about a charming sophisticated role, deal with it and stop putting stupid excuses about it and you werre wrong all the way about denzel Wahington also, his take on glory and Training day did only win a oscar because he pull in both great performances not for the stupid things you are talking about, another proof ? Gary Sinise and Tom Sizemore were offered the role of Alonzo but passed, tell me are they african american or white ??? It is all relatives if Saving Private Ryan deserve it more than Shakespeare in love, i think and say it again both deserve it and there is plenty of moron like me so again deal with it. If my opinion is irrelvant, yours is useless at best lol. I get to tell you what i want, i am free to do whenever i like LMFAO. Mr perfect "grammar", just check your second sentence please, once again before to put crap online just check yourself you make a fool of yourself ! By the way english is not my mother tongue, let's see how smart you are and if you can just make a sentence in my language: Je t'emmerde, t'encule avec une poigné de gravier, tu n'es qu'une bite et tu me fais pitier si j'etais tes parents je te renierai dailleur ta mere aurai du avorter sa nous aurais évité d'avoir a lire tes commentaires pourri. Just to let you know, what i wrote is pretty offensive oh by the way and i am sure you will anderstand this : *beep*--- Y O U !!!! Bisous bisous.

[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

I said "MODERN" Hollywood. Not Hollywood fifty years ago. Idiot. Attitudes change.

Saving Private Ryan made actual World War II Vets cry because it reminded them of what they experienced so perfectly. What did Shakespeare in Love do? Nothing.
No, my opinion is more important than yours'.

I didn't say my grammar is perfect, but it is light years ahead of yours'.

Sorry, but I don't speak cheese-eating surrender monkey. I learned Native American languages in school.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

[–] fred-mor 8 years ago

I said "MODERN" Hollywood. Not Hollywood fifty years ago. Idiot. Attitudes change.

Really ?? Then prove it kid, getting a oscar and being african american was a miracle
53 years ago. Have you ever seen In America, djimon Hounsou was brillant and he also played a charming sophisticated character and it was in 2002, he did not get the oscar because Tim Robins performance was just better in mystic River, i said it allready stop your stupid excuses.

Saving Private Ryan made actual World War II Vets cry because it reminded them of what they experienced so perfectly. What did Shakespeare in Love do? Nothing.
No, my opinion is more important than yours'.

I do not see where you point wants to go, there are 2 different movies, you can't even compare them. the life is beautifull was also nominated that year and was talking about the Holocaust, was it supposed to get the win also because it made cry and reminded what some jew experienced ??? A movie get best picture as a all and you have to be self satisfied to believe only your opinion is important, grew up you are a egostistical arrogant kid.

I didn't say my grammar is perfect, but it is light years ahead of yours'

Coming from someone who can speak only 1 language it is hillarious.

"Sorry, but I don't speak cheese-eating surrender monkey. I learned Native American languages in school"

that is all you have got ??? You are pathetic at best, am I even french by the way ??? How many countries speaks french ??? You should go back to school for sure you do not seems to be very bright. I just relize i talk to a kid and i really hope you are otherwise if you are suposed to be a adult you are trully retarded and i start to have pity for you.

[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

I don't have to prove anything. That's just common sense.

...Said the moron who thinks Shakespeare in Love is as good as Saving Private Ryan.

Native America languages, remember?

The only one that's not very bright here is you. Wrong again, on every account. Moron.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

[–] fred-mor 8 years ago

if you do not have anything to prove why do you reply to my post then ??? Your life is empty that much ??? By the way you never prove anything from biginning to the end, just talk for talking and just saying stuff like you know better than anyone without any given exemple. Native America languages my ass may be you tried to learn one of them and you probably failed. i start to think you are a adult, that is pity man. I do not even know if you anderstood half the stuff i tried to explain.

[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

Yeah, you don't get to say things like "why do you reply to my post then" when you just keep coming back, too.

No, I learned Native America languages.

"anderstood". Wow. Just wow.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

[–] fred-mor 8 years ago

At first it was just funny it amazed me now it become anoying you argue to me without prove and any given exemple all i have front of me is a self satisfied person who believe he knows better than everyone, don't you relize how weak are your answers, i just own you since the biginning, exept saying i am a idiot a moron etc you are not capable to put anything you say relevant. If you wanna keep going, i do not care really but you look like a fool really.

[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

You don't own anything, certainly not me. This all started because I dared to suggest that the Oscars are not a reliable way of measuring a film's worth. You weren't asked to join the argument, but you did anyway. You jumped in and insulted me for not bowing down to the Academy Awards like they're like some God I should be worshiping. So no, you don't get to act smug like you've pulled one over on me.

And my comments are a million times more relevant than yours' will ever be.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

[–] fred-mor 8 years ago

Oui oui et la marmotte elle met le chocolat dans le papier. I owned you deal with it even with your huge ego, that is why you reply and reply and reply and reply again 😘😘😘😘 i did not have to ask you to join the argument. I never insulted you, you did and i never said the academy are god.

And my comments are a million times more relevant than yours' will ever be. To your big head only unless you have anything relevant to tell me can you just go in hell, i have never heared a guy talking like you, you are a piss of garbage.

[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

No, you didn't. You don't own anything. Never will. You reply and reply and reply again because you want the last word and I'm not going to give it to you. Yes, you did insult me, and yes, you did say the Academy is great. You wouldn't have been arguing with me to begin with otherwise. If you don't think the Academy is all that great, then why did you even jump in?

That's "piece" of garbage, first of all. Secondly, the only one without anything relevant to say is you.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

[–] fred-mor 8 years ago

I never said they werre great learn to read just react to some stuff you said and i am self satisfied because i owned you 😀😀😀😀😀 and you are just mad and i love it.

[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

Wrong on literally every account. You don't own anything, especially not me. Oh please, it would require giving a damn to be angry with you and you are not worth the effort. If you don't think the Academy is great, then why did you jump in, uninvited?

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

[–] fred-mor 8 years ago

firstable, I did not need a invitation from any one, you can reply to any one if you feel like it, this is IMDB. Secondable you werre the one to call me idiot first. Thirdable i highly desagree with you saying the Academy are not reliable and give many exemple they werre right in the other that does not mean they are great or god, i rather prefer the SAG they are even better and yes i own you since the biginning and you are unable to give one single real argument to me so deal with it.

[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

'firstable'? "First of all"

Just like the follow up is supposed to be "second of all", or "secondly".

No, you insulted me first. It was your tone. Stop trying to deny that you started this.
I gave more examples when talking to the other guy about the times the Academy got it wrong than you did trying to prove them right. You did not give "many" examples of them getting it right. Those were about four actors, and each win's legitimacy is debatable.
And you're wrong. The Academy is not reliable. Never was. They passed over "Citizen Kane", for crying out loud.
No, you didn't own me. You were the one who failed to give any real arguments. You deal with it.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

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[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

The only useless prick here is you. You never gave me any argument. You gave me four actors with some questionable Oscars wins. That is not proof. I gave you the fact that real life World War II Veterans were so moved by Saving Private Ryan as to become tearful. Shakespeare in Love never got such a powerful reaction out of anyone, and that right there is the proof it didn't deserve the win. No, I owned you. You are my bitch.

1994: Forrest Gump[ /i]winning over [i]Pulp Fiction or Shawshank Redemption? And they failed!
1995: Mel Gibson's nearly-forgotten melodrama Braveheart winning over Apollo 13?
1996: The English Patient over Fargo?
1997: Titanic had no business winning anything, except for maybe technical achievements. The rest was trite and cliche.
1999: American Beauty over The Green Mile and Sixth Sense? HA!
2000: No comment on any of the 2000 nominees, because none of those were particularly impressive. Gladiator was fun, but it did not deserve to win any Oscars.
2001: A Beautiful Mind over Lord of the Rings? Get real.
2002: Chicago over literally anything else?
2003: The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King. Oh, hey, they finally actually got it right!

You lose.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

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[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

1994: Forrest Gump winning over Pulp Fiction or Shawshank Redemption? And they failed!
1995: Mel Gibson's nearly-forgotten melodrama Braveheart winning over Apollo 13?
1996: The English Patient over Fargo?
1997: Titanic had no business winning anything, except for maybe technical achievements. The rest was trite and cliche.
1999: American Beauty over The Green Mile and Sixth Sense? HA!
2000: No comment on any of the 2000 nominees, because none of those were particularly impressive. Gladiator was fun, but it did not deserve to win any Oscars.
2001: A Beautiful Mind over Lord of the Rings? Get real.
2002: Chicago over literally anything else?
2003: The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King. Oh, hey, they finally actually got it right!

Guess again. You lose.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

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[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

No, it proves everything. Saving Private Ryan got a real, emotional response out of people. Shakespeare in Love didn't. Therefore, it is inferior.

Guess what? I win, bitch.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

Wrong on every account. Don't think for a moment that I actually buy what you're saying. You'd say you agree with the Academy just to spite me, and you did.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

[–] fred-mor 8 years ago

I'll say what i think, my opinion matter as much as yours, like it or not. I liked Saving Private Ryan but i never got emotional, in fact my grand father was a world ware II vet and never got emotional neither, this is not because you say something than it is just true or real to anybody. Because someone is not agreeing with you of course you are right and the other person is wrong. Only low minded person think that way sorry but you want every people to tell people you are right all the time just because your ego can't take it otherwise, i am not that kind of person and you should stay away from this board because it will go nowhere and you just waste you time. You are just a game to me, you still did not get it ??? You amazed me, this is the only reason i reply to you.

[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

 Yeah. Uh-huh. I don't buy any of it.

No, you have it wrong again. You are a game to me.

In any case, you are now on my Ignore list. Goodbye, and good riddance. You've become very boring with your Academy Awards worship.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

[–] fred-mor 8 years ago

Ok then i won and i had the final word and i can now delete all these useless post ! By the you are also in ignore list kid, it is obvious you are a teenager, you werre just too much fun :))))

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[–] movibiju 8 years ago

Yes, "good roles", but has he ever been "great"? He's never left an impression on me, honestly.

Maybe he didn't impress you but he has impressed a lot of people and believe me, you are not the only person in the world or the one who has the best taste.

I never saw these guys acting that much so I'm not going to evaluate their acting abilities, but one thing I know for sure is that we have seen most oscar winners fall under bad scripts, so what can we say about the other ones.

[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

Yeah, he's impressed so many people that this is the first major role I've even heard of him in IN YEARS.

Oscars prove nothing.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

[–] fred-mor 8 years ago

Because he did not give a damn about acting, he was with his band 30 seconds to mars, this is his prioroty, they pull a massive tour, the biggest ever any band made.

[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

Yawn.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

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[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

The only twat here is you.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

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[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

Yawn.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

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[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

You needed a comma after "True" and you need to capitalize the "I". Secondly, your sentence should have been two sentences and lose the moronic smilies. They don't do you any favors.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

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[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

You need to capitalize that "I" and there should be no space between 'damn' and the exclamation points, of which there should be only one.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

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There should be no space between "way" and the question mark.

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[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

Said like a true idiot.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

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[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

I DO say so.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

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lekin main aapako meree sundar ped ke saath bakavaas

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

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[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

So did you go to Google Translator to get that Spanish?

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

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[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

Back to Google Translator, I see. You know, you're very good at pretending to know different languages. However, your lack of sophistication and education betrays you.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

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[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

Again, the only thing this proves is that you have access to Google Translator.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

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[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

Just keep running that Google Translator.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

[–] fred-mor 8 years ago

How old are you ? 15 ?

[–] movibiju 8 years ago

Oscars prove nothing.

Your opinion proves less. Unless you think you are better than the Academy that is constituted by people who work in the cinema industry.

Yeah, he's impressed so many people that this is the first major role I've even heard of him in IN YEARS

He was always more dedicated to his band 30 seconds to mars than to acting. Never was the typical Hollywood star and leading man. I always say that Jared took the longest road to success because he always prefered small roles in interesting movies or participating in low budgets films instead of participating in big Hollywood movies, actually suicide squad is an exception.

[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

I do know better than that academy, actually. If you're honestly going to try telling me an institution that gave How Green Was My Valley the win over Citizen Kane is reliable in even the slightest, then prepare to be mocked.
Or how about Shakespeare in Love winning several awards over Saving Private Ryan? Elizabeth and The Thin Red Line both deserved those wins more, by the way.

Don't make me laugh. The academy is in no way, shape, or form a good measuring stick for quality cinema. They don't award those little gold men based on quality. They award them based entirely on nepotism. It is a very, VERY rare thing for the best film of any given year to actually win an academy award.

1990: Dances With Wolves should have won ALL the Razzies that year. Literally anything else should have won those Oscars. Kevin Costner's ego-stroking deserved nothing, but the mockery that's come about for it in retrospect.
1991: Silence of the Lambs. There were other good choices, but I can live with this one.
1992: Unforgiven. Hey, they actually got it right for once!
1993: Schlinder's List. Twice in a row! Looking, good, Oscars.
1994: Forrest Gump winning over Pulp Fiction or Shawshank Redemption?  And they failed!
1995: Mel Gibson's nearly-forgotten melodrama Braveheart winning over Apollo 13?
1996: The English Patient over Fargo?
1997: Titanic had no business winning anything, except for maybe technical achievements. The rest was trite and cliche.
1999: American Beauty over The Green Mile and Sixth Sense? HA!
2000: No comment on any of the 2000 nominees, because none of those were particularly impressive. Gladiator was fun, but it did not deserve to win any Oscars.
2001: A Beautiful Mind over Lord of the Rings? Get real.
2002: Chicago over literally anything else?
2003: The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King. Oh, hey, they finally actually got it right again!

Then he should just stay in his stupid band.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

[–] movibiju 8 years ago

Of course that you know better than everybody else. Never doubted that for a second!

Then he should just stay in his stupid band.

He will stay with his band, thank you very much for the permission. In addition, he will do whatever he wants to do. 

[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

Translation: I have nothing to offer as a counterargument, so I'll just be a smartass in an attempt play it off, but fail miserably.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

[–] movibiju 8 years ago

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

" I learned a precious lesson about my time, Gandalf! I learned to not waste my time arguing with a wall. - Frodo 

[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

Uh-huh. That's rich coming from a moron who thinks Oscars are the do-all-be-all of cinematic quality when literally everything about them implies otherwise.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

[–] movibiju 8 years ago

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"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

" I learned a precious lesson about my time, Gandalf! I learned to not waste my time arguing with a wall. - Frodo

[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

And your journey of utter failure is complete. You failed to convince me that the Oscars are a reliable measuring stick of quality in any way, shape, or form, and you just ignored my citation of undeserving films that won Oscars over more deserving works. I accept your defeat.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

[–] movibiju 8 years ago

Your ego must make your life a living hell!

[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

At least I don't suck the Academy Awards' cock like you do.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

[–] movibiju 8 years ago

Lovely big EGO ! 

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

" I learned a precious lesson about my time, Gandalf! I learned to not waste my time arguing with a wall. - Frodo

[–] fred-mor 8 years ago

To WeiredRaptor you said you ignore me but i guess you did not because you werre able to reply directly to my last post wich i can not do with you because you really are in my ignore list and i had to reply to a previous post to movibiju to put that one so do not wast your time because you ll stay in my ignore list and i have not even a idea what you wrote to me and to be honest i can't care less. I won't repy to you anymore because i won't be able to, save your time just saying kid, i won our argument deal with it and grew up.

[–] movibiju 8 years ago

Fred-mor, you have to learn the wise words of Gandalf and Frodo.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

" I learned a precious lesson about my time, Gandalf! I learned to not waste my time arguing with a wall. - Frodo



[–] fred-mor 8 years ago

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[–] movibiju 8 years ago

No one can match the level of Ledger because he gave possibly the single greatest performance in CB movie history.

I guess that what you want to say is that it's possible that it won't be another script as good as the one Heath Ledger had in a CB movie.

[–] BB-15 8 years ago

Some viewers have not yet accepted that the Joker has changed because of Harley Quinn.
I'm able to deal with it.

This is a Suicide Squad movie obviously and Harley is a major part of that. And because Harley is in it, the Joker has to be in it.
That's how it is now.

The DC Animated Series created Harley Quinn as a permanent sidekick to the Joker.
She then moved over to the comics.
Quinn is now canon in DC.
The Joker character now has to fit with Harley Quinn.
- Nicholson Joker wanted women but only to torture them and burn their faces with acid. Quinn would not fit with Nicholson's Joker.
- Ledger Joker just wants to create chaos and terror which includes with women. He doesn't give a damn about anyone and is obsessed with screwing up Batman's life. Quinn does not fit with Ledger's Joker.

* This new Joker is now a combination of the Joker and Harley Quinn.

That's now canon and I can accept that. I thought Robbie was very good in the role. Letto was fine.

I've seen SS twice in theaters which helped because there was a lot going on.
I enjoyed it because I can go along with change in a comic book movie and with this new version of the Joker.

BB ;-)

it is just in my opinion - imo - 🌈