michelle trachtenberg should have had more film time
she's the real star of the movie
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I would pay good money to see a movie that was nothing but Michele Trachtenberg OR Rashida Jones peeling vegetables.
If not for the extreme combined force of both Cop Out would have made me vomit then riot.
They're both very lovely and the one who played the mother was also a good looker
she was on L&W SVU recently.
Nice to see the "My name is Earl" guy all cleaned up.
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That's Jason Lee of course, he's in a bunch of Kevin Smith films.
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Did you even WATCH the movie? She was NOT "the star" of the flick. She wasn't even close. Not even a supporting actress. You must have this confused with another movie. She doesn't have much of a part in the movie. She is not, nor was she meant to be, a major player.
Besides, MT has got to be one of the worst actresses our generation has yet to provide. This girl has no range, her acting is comporable to that of a stick. A stick that has a high squeaky whiney voice.
She's attractive, but man, I can only take so much of her and she grates on my nerves. That voice of hers is like nails on a chalkboard, and her acting is one dimensional. Never saw a single movie with her in it where she brought a single goddamn thing to the production. She can be easily replaced. No special qualities in her.
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Agreed. She looked very, very pretty when she wore that wedding dress at the ending. Her pale look matched the white dress perfectly. Damn, she's so beautiful!
Did you even WATCH the movie? She was NOT "the star" of the flick. She wasn't even close. Not even a supporting actress. You must have this confused with another movie. She doesn't have much of a part in the movie. She is not, nor was she meant to be, a major player.
I think you need to read properly. Obviously, her role wasn't that big in the movie, so she wasn't actually the main player. But that's not the point. She's an amazing girl and fun to watch, so we wished to see her more often in the movie. That's why she's the "star" of the movie in our eyes. This is purely a matter of opinion in which me and the topic creator agrees with.
If it wasn't for MT, I probably would have never watched this movie.
Besides, MT has got to be one of the worst actresses our generation has yet to provide. This girl has no range, her acting is comporable to that of a stick. A stick that has a high squeaky whiney voice.
Actually, I disagree completely. Did you even watch everything that she was in? Or were you just spewing a straw? Did you watch her involvements like EuroTrip, Ice Princess, Weeds, Love Bites, Buffy, Mercy, Gossip Girl, etc? Her acting is totally different in each of these movies / series. I.e. she portrays an evil woman perfectly well in Gossip Girl. All of this proves that she can act because I cannot think of more than 1 movie or series that MT acts exactly the same way as in real life.
Comparing her to a stick is a pretty lame and invalid argument. If she was a stick, everything about her would have been consistent - which isn't the case.
She's attractive, but man, I can only take so much of her and she grates on my nerves. That voice of hers is like nails on a chalkboard, and her acting is one dimensional. Never saw a single movie with her in it where she brought a single goddamn thing to the production. She can be easily replaced. No special qualities in her.
You're so wrong on many levels. Her voice is fine. Her entire acting career isn't one dimensional (please watch her parts from different movies / series). You have nothing to back up your criticisms. You're probably just jealous or a hater. So, get over it. share
You sincerely believe that simply because I dislike a particular actress that you are fond of, that it automatically must mean I'm jealous (of what?) or a hater (I don't hate her, I don't even know her). What specifically is it that you would like me to "get over" to satisfy you?
To back up my own personal critiques of her performances, I clarify again I have seen her in several different roles. I will admit that I have not seen every movie she's ever been in, but I have certainly seen a handful across the years.
You make a very valid point that in situations where you, and other posters here, have a pre-existing likeness for a particular actor or actress, and they don't get much screen time, and especially depending on how the movies are advertised, the audience has certain expectations going in. And if those expectations are not met, and if that particular actor doesn't get an amount of screen time that is either implied in the coming attractions, or simply doesn't get enough screen time for those of her fans who would like to, and were hoping to, see more of her than they did. That is very disappointing.
Keeping in mind that merely "wanting" a quasi-supporting actress to have had a larger part in a movie than she did, does not qualify her as a "star" or a "major player." I understand the feeling when an actor I'm quite fond of who I think is excellent isn't given much more than a bit part in a movie, it's quite frustrating, especially when you, yourself, can see so many ways they could have fleshed out their character to add more screen time. I really DO understand that.
I believe you are also correct as you point out we all have our own opinions...and neither of our's invalidates the others. It just is what it is. So concluding, my choice to compare her acting abilities to that of a stick,...stays. In everything I've seen her in, she is type-cast. Attempts to place her against type backfire horrendously because the "MT School of Acting" comes to the surface in every role she takes on.
I'm hoping it is just her immaturity, youth, and lack of professional experience that have been drawing me consistently to this assessment of her "acting" all these years. Maybe she's yet to grow into her own and hasn't quite stretched those wings yet. I really don't know. I've seen actors change and completely blow me away after years of thinking they were stiff. So far to date, every single thing I've seen this girl in, she acts the same, she has a voice that I find grating (perhaps a vocal coach could help bring out a calmer side or a more vixen side,...not just the whiney teenager type).
So you see, I do not hate her, (I've only used that word once in my life when referencing a real person, so I do not toss it around lightly), and I am not jealous of her (Perhaps because I have yet to see her display any acting qualities I find that appealing,...and if I did, to clarify, I would be envious, not jealous).
Good post, though, and thank you for putting so much thought into the debate. It makes imdb "fun again!" :)
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You sincerely believe that simply because I dislike a particular actress that you are fond of, that it automatically must mean I'm jealous (of what?) or a hater (I don't hate her, I don't even know her). What specifically is it that you would like me to "get over" to satisfy you?
I assumed that you were either jealous or a hater simply because you didn't include any valid explanation for your criticisms.
For example, you had claimed that MT is "one of the worst actresses ever", however you didn't add any explanation as to why that's the case. This same thing happened with your other criticisms:
"That voice of hers is like nails on a chalkboard, and her acting is one dimensional."
"Never saw a single movie with her in it where she brought a single goddamn thing to the production. She can be easily replaced. No special qualities in her."
I accept that people have thier own opinions - like who's considered to be the worst actress in thier minds. However, it doesn't make sense when a person says "she's the worst actress" without any valid reason or explanation. This screamed hate or jealousy to me at first.
If you don't hate her or not being jealous of her, then what made you say "she's the worst actress", "whiney voice", etc? From which movies or series?
To back up my own personal critiques of her performances, I clarify again I have seen her in several different roles. I will admit that I have not seen every movie she's ever been in, but I have certainly seen a handful across the years.
Like what? Well, I recommend watching her in Gossip Girl. And then compare it to a different movie or series, like Love Bites. I guarantee that you'll see a difference in between the two things. So, surely, if she can act different in two different things, does she not have the ability to act differently? And doesn't that prove that she's not a "stick"?
No special qualities in her? Are you sure?
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I've watched her speak differently. Her various speeches, gestures, face expressions and body language are all great.
She's REALLY amazing when unexpected events happen. Her expressions and body language change dramatically when such events happen. For example in 17 Again, she becomes very naughty and kinky on bed (she acted, ran and moved like a lioness in that moment) when in most of the time, she's just a quiet and shy girl in the movie. Kind of shy girls in real life don't show thier true selves until they know you very well... and MT has done that realistically.
In Love Bites, she normally acts like a calm, confused (a bit) and cute girl but when she finds something under the bed... She goes into a very different person for a few moments. Unexpected events - a change of short pace in acting or behaviour is supposed to be positive for actresses / actors - as MT has already done that.
In Take Me Home Tonight, she's a gothic girl and she literally acts like she's high all the time and she acts like a prostitute (a girl who looks like she wants to kiss you or have sexual intercourses with you). She does these roles excellently in the movie.
In Love Bites, when she wears that hat, she starts acting and smiling like a very happy girl for a few moment simply because of the hat. It's like she knows what's the most natural / cute way to act based on her clothes.
In certain moments of acting (an act of being evil, grinned or whatever), she could widen her left eyebrow (not sure what's the right word for this) in order to make her expression more obvious too. She does this quite a lot in Gossip Girl because her character is portrayed as an evil woman. For example, she widens her left eyebrow when her friend is talking gossip, which means she has an evil idea about what to do next. This is a very good example of spicy expression. Not too many actresses or actors can control thier faces' nerves and knowing that MT can do it, she has an advantage.
When she wants to punch someone (when she's angry), her face LOOKS so different - her mouth, eyes, chin and nose all tighten. Easily seen! You can see this certain expression of her in Gossip Girl, and Weeds (I think, not 100% sure). This anger expression is very realistic. I've seen a couple of people in real life that does the similar expression except that they were actually angry.
Also, in Black Christmas, she does a gesture (or basic sign language?) to say and sign 'No more drinking' at the same time. In Ice Princess, she does a 'Five minutes' gesture. In Harriet the Spy, she does that 'Talk to the Hand' gesture, and more. So, in terms of acting, isn't that pretty unique and beautiful? I mean, I don't think this kind of thing is common - not a lot of actresses and actors do this kind of thing - except MT, which is a very good thing.
There are more examples, but the examples above should be good enough.
She can act and she can surprise you in certain moments - that make you laugh, impressed or puzzled. This is one of the main reasons I like her the most.
She's not like many actresses / actors. She does have some special qualities in herself. I totally believe this because honestly, I don't know what does it take to have no "special qualities" because, as far as I've seen, she doesn't stare or express blank and act the exactly same way in all of her movies / series.
Keeping in mind that merely "wanting" a quasi-supporting actress to have had a larger part in a movie than she did, does not qualify her as a "star" or a "major player." I understand the feeling when an actor I'm quite fond of who I think is excellent isn't given much more than a bit part in a movie, it's quite frustrating, especially when you, yourself, can see so many ways they could have fleshed out their character to add more screen time. I really DO understand that.
Yep, she wasn't LITERALLY not a star or major player of Cop Out. But in my case, it went like this: "Wow, she's beautiful! I love her. I'm distracted... because of her. She's so eye candy.... so good to watch... my attention is on her 100% therefore she's the star" or something like that. I guess the same thing happened to the topic creator. MT is the reason why I watched this movie (I even knew that she had a small part in it.)
So concluding, my choice to compare her acting abilities to that of a stick,...stays.
#I've explained this above (somewhere near the top paragraph). Opinions are opinions, agreed. But your opinion seemed very harsh and kind of wrong, and I'm one of MT's fans, so naturally, I went defensive. Like, super defensive because you didn't include any valid reason or explanation. Do you understand where I'm coming from?
In everything I've seen her in, she is type-cast. Attempts to place her against type backfire horrendously because the "MT School of Acting" comes to the surface in every role she takes on.
I was thinking of what movies or series did you base on... I still have no idea. But I think '17 Again' (movie) isn't one of MT's best parts - There were only a few good moments of her in that movie, but that's it. This is normal because many Actresses / Actors have at least one "bad" role or so.
I'm hoping it is just her immaturity, youth, and lack of professional experience that have been drawing me consistently to this assessment of her "acting" all these years. Maybe she's yet to grow into her own and hasn't quite stretched those wings yet.
I don't think she's immature. She was bullied in her school years, so she has gained some kind of perspective on life (bullies have made her stronger and braver). She's never ran into any trouble in real life. One of her mottos is "Education is very important". She's somewhat religious (jewish / christian). Her greatest inspiration is her own mother. She doesn't seem to be one of these girls that jump into a relationship so quickly (otherwise tabloids will prove her wrong). She's not engaged or married as far as I know, and she's almost 27 next month.
As for youth. Well, she's 26 and she's still young. She's said "I'd better to show off while being young" or something to that effect. So, I'm assuming she will do the same stuff for a while. I guess when she's older, she will do different things.
As for her professional experience. In Ice Princess, she took One year of ice staking lessons - just for the movie. This should be good proof that she's capable and willing to learn or become better in acting.
I don't know if she wants to be a full time actress (no more guest star), but she's said that her dream job is to be a fashion editor and she does have a thing for fashion. So, I assume she does fashion stuff in real life (she attends fashion events) too. What do I know for sure is that her being a guest actress has nothing to do with her talents being "awful". It could be simply because she doesn't have time.
she has a voice that I find grating (perhaps a vocal coach could help bring out a calmer side or a more vixen side,...not just the whiney teenager type).
Well, guess what? She occasionally smokes. Would you be happy if you knew that smoking could make your voice deeper? So, there you go. Problem solved.
But really, I think her voice is fine. You probably heard of her "voice" because of her certain roles (again I don't know what movies you were speaking of.) But please watch her interviews on YouTube because the voice is her natural one. Like this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTlUtxl0bH0
I am not jealous of her (Perhaps because I have yet to see her display any acting qualities I find that appealing,...and if I did, to clarify, I would be envious, not jealous).
Ok, I got it now. You don't like her acting because they don't appeal to you. Fair enough.
Good post, though, and thank you for putting so much thought into the debate. It makes imdb "fun again!" :)
I didn't expect your response to be like this. I apologize for my behaviour in my previous post..... and Thanks! share
You sincerely believe in any way I would be "happy" to learn of smoking's effect on the voice?
Quite simply put, I find her irritating and difficult to watch. She grates on my nerves, in particular, I dislike her voice, and I find her acting to be wooden. All of those are sufficient so-called "valid" reasons. I'm not sure what you find difficult. One simply does not compare, let's say, MT and Vanessa Redgrave now. It's really just that simple.
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You sincerely believe in any way I would be "happy" to learn of smoking's effect on the voice?
No, it was a joke, hence I mentioned "Not really, but" and included a link to a youtube video because her voice in real life is different. Did you even watch it?
Quite simply put, I find her irritating and difficult to watch. She grates on my nerves, in particular, I dislike her voice, and I find her acting to be wooden. All of those are sufficient so-called "valid" reasons. I'm not sure what you find difficult. One simply does not compare, let's say, MT and Vanessa Redgrave now. It's really just that simp
No, because they really aren't. Saying that I dislike an actress because her voice sucks isn't justified at all. Therefore, it's a pure matter of dislikement or simply hate. In other words, it's your opinion that's really in a dark area.
Another reason why these aren't valid reasons (i.e. wooden acting) is because you haven't yet given me any evidence AND you haven't yet argued against my arguments / points from my previous post. Literally, you've ignored everything what I've said and you are still sticking with your unexplained and uncredible statements.
Next time, if you dislike someone or something without any VALID explanation or reason BASED on evidence, at least try to keep it to yourself. I've disliked some certain actresses and actors FOR no reason at all. However I don't speak or go on thier boards to say something about them. That's just ridiculous. share
Next time, if you dislike someone or something without any VALID explanation or reason BASED on evidence, at least try to keep it to yourself. I've disliked some certain actresses and actors FOR no reason at all. However I don't speak or go on their boards to say something about them. That's just ridiculous.
Yeah the guy probably remembers MT for her squeakier moments as Dawn and Harriet the Spy and despises her because of that. Sad, because as you noted, dgraph, she is a lot more than that now.
Adult Michelle's voice may not be an all-time great voice, but it isn't squeaky either, and I'd say it only adds to her already considerable appeal.
Too bad she is barely in this movie. share
She's cool.
I don't win a lot.