Catherine drops salt or sugar on the seat
Can anyone explain why Catherine (Moore) was dropping sugar or salt on the seat
when Chloe (Seyfried) was talking in the cafe? Was that supposed to be some type of sexual advance ?
Can anyone explain why Catherine (Moore) was dropping sugar or salt on the seat
when Chloe (Seyfried) was talking in the cafe? Was that supposed to be some type of sexual advance ?
oh, i was hoping someone could answer that. I was wondering what I just saw during that moment and why.
This movie leaves me with many questions. Like why is her husband totally cool after her confession. He starts kissing and hugging her, but she just said she cheated on him. I wonder if Miranda and him did do more than flirt. I also wonder if Chloe ever even went to see her husband or if Chloe thought it would be funner and easier to pretend the whole time, never seeing him until she goes to meet Catherine at the dinner and sees both of them. And why does Catherine's son act so angry and distant with his mother but so close and caring when he discusses his break up with his dad. I mean he was talking about his mom and dad's stories like he thinks they are so great together and perfect, but then treats his mom like she is person with the problem. He doesn't thank her for his tux or for letting him make photo copies or not kicking his slutty girlfriend out. And what's with those baby blue panties of his? And he is a violent hockey player and a skilled pianist and a cruddy guitarist? he is so weird! I will never understand his character in this.
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I could understand the husbands reaction. It involves getting sexist, but really it is the truth. Had I explained everything to my husband about why I felt that he was cheating on me (he has to admit it looked bad from her angle) and how I got swindled by this crazy broad that I hired in my moment of weakness and that I was slightly turned on when thinking about him having sex with another woman and then I had sex with her...it's a little far out there for sure...but no doubt my husband would be relieved it was with a woman. Had it been another man, his reaction would be the typical reaction. Just the way it is...whether that is sexist or antigay, so be it.
shareI was thinking exactly the same thing. He obviously loved her, had never cheated on her (supposedly) and she explained why she had done it. I too think it was because it was another woman not a man. men are funny like that.
shareI agree as well. Often men just do not see there wife's relationship with another woman as threatening as a relationship with a man. It may not make sense, but it is a "man thing."
shareAND, I agree with you 100% about the son/mother relationship. They really dropped the ball there. With no backstory, you are left to assume that the writer thinks this is how a normal teenager acts. Which it's not unless something has happened. I don't know, maybe there was something that ended up on the cutting room floor. At least I hope that's the case because it was completely out of place in the movie.
shareIf you look up deleted scenes there is a really crucial side story that gets cut that changes the son from a whiny angsty teenager into something a bit more believable. Its when Chloe goes to the house at the end. The son explains he ran off to live with a teacher whom he was in love with. His mother threatened the teacher with the police because her son was under-aged, so the relationship ends. Since then he's hated his mother.
It also changes the way we view catherine, into someone more controlling, to do whatever to get what she wants.
I think its a shame this scene was cut because it changes the whole film.
Rebeccy writes:
"I think its a shame this scene was cut because it changes the whole film."
Right.
And that's what Egoyan wanted. I don't think the film is really about Catherine being a "bad guy". It's really about her search for love.
"I think it's time to see Amanda sticking guns in people's faces."
I agree, I think it was a shame that both deleted scenes were cut as they really added to the message of the film and the complexity of the characters.
~What if this is as good as it gets?!~
It seems this thread got sidetracked, but I'd love to hear more theories about the packet of salt/sugar on the seat. At first I wondered if Catherine was going to tease her by rubbing salt in her wound, but that never happened. Was it just a nervous gesture or a flirtation? Neither of those theories makes sense either. Anyone?
shareThat is what I thought, Warped. I assumed she was about to rub salt on her wound lol.
"I'll boot up the computer and you can show me your boobs!"- Derwin
to me, it seemed she was so angry with Chloe going too far with her husband that she thought of rubbing the salt on her would. but idk,
shareI think Catherine is playing with sugar, which is slang for sex or love.
My thought is that Catherine is symbolically playing/toying with love. Chloe is in love with Catherine from the start when she tries to give her the hair pin in the restroom.
P. A. T. (Needy's Boy)
I think at this moment when chloe comes clean and drops the bomb
that sugar is a simbol of sweetness and happiness in catherine's life (heart)
which vaniesh completely at that moment..so catherine realises there's no need for sweetness in her life and that's taken from her already
It was a sachet of sugar called "Nothing Equals Sugar" which is a trademarked by the Canadian Sugar Institute.
It happens around 36 minutes 40 seconds.
Very much liked the film and enjoy the discussion on these message boards.
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