Biggest flaw of this film

"Gripe 2: Bats, all suited up, standing on ice which we know can't support the weight of regular guys moments before."

Stuff like that I think is a bit nitpicking; sure it i annoying but can easily be waved off. The stuff that can't be waved off is like Bane being reduced to a glorified henchman/body guard in the last 5 minutes of the film. Or the magic kneebrace that allows batman to kick through walls but then forgotten about for the rest of the film (even when Bruce is left in the pit, I think we are to assume that it was left on by Bane, which begs the question of why) or the fact that Bruce had a broken back (lower lumbar dislocation and gets it punched back into place and does some pushups and is suddenly able to climb and jump with extremely high conditioning all in under 1 year; this stuff is really, really hard to accept.

But for me the thing that really killed my enjoyment was the pacing; it is a very badly paced film (slow to fast back to super crawling slow to super fast then rushed falling action that seemed like a frame by frame check in the box sequence). That was just bad.

"I don't care if it took 3 days. He's Bruce Wayne. All he has to do is walk to the nearest populated city to find out where he is and also find someone that recognizes him."

The "he's batman he can do it" argument is not a good argument. He had no resources, no money and no ID. Just to get a passport to be able to get back into the U.S. would take weeks. Remember he lost almost all his money earlier in the film so no unlimited money to circumvent the process. No private jet; no help from anyone. How did he get back to Gotham; Walk? Drive? How long would it take him to get from the pit to somewhere he can speak the language. There are hundreds of thousands of dialects in rural areas across the world, there is a very low chance he knows the local's language. Where is the nearest populated city? Who knows him and can help him get a passport in under 3 weeks to get back into the U.S. No matter which way you slice it, the 23 day limitation was a silly thing to put on the film. If the amount of time that he had to get back was not disclosed it would not have been as much of a problem; but 23 days? No it is not possible without flying and he can't fly without a passport and no way to prove who he is. You have to assume so many variables to even make it somewhat possible.

"I don't know exactly what "Alfred meet him in Country" "

Go back and watch the film; Bruce does NOT get back to Gotham on his own after leaving the League of Shadows. The next scene shows him walking up to Alfred in a Airport on the runway, clearly this shows he contacted Alfred and had him bring the jet to pick him up. Bruce no longer had the jet or Alfred in Rises. He had nothing, no resources and no help.

"it sounds like you're saying Alfred somehow found out where Bruce was across the world and got him a jet ride back

No, in this case all Bruce had to do was call him and then Alfred could make all the arrangements. This kind of goes without saying. Bruce did not have this option in Rises.

"We've already established that getting back was well within Bruce's ability due to his resources that extend beyond what he's personally carrying at the time."

No, we specifically didn't establish this because Bruce did NOT get back to Gotham on his own in Begins and in Rises he only had 23 days in total. There is no realistic way he could get back in 23 days. Not without flying, which he can't do without an ID and passport. He could do this if he was still a billionaire (money talks) but Rises goes (stupidly) out of the way to show him lose all his money earlier in the film. So no money.

"We also know the guy is sneaky"

sneaky does not equal super speed. This has nothing to do with out fast he got back to Gotham without explanation.

"surreal than fictitious plants causing extraordinary effects."

You ever been on LSD? The plants basically just caused a 'focused' bad trip. He it stretches realism but not the same way that time and human anatomy is in Rises.

>I don't care if it took 3 days. He's Bruce Wayne. All he has to do is walk to the nearest populated city to find out where he is and also find someone that recognizes him.

Get real. He's not an international celebrity. How many people would recognise, say, Jeff Bozos or Elon Musk if they were in rags in the local neighourhood, let alone a city in the Middle East?

All we needed to see is Bruce winning a random pit fight against a random person and collecting the winnings, the audience can see he's fighting fit and obtaining money. It's the job of the movie to provide the narrative, not the people who watch it.

For me it was not just Bane; literally none of the characters were working for me in Rises. Hathaway as catwoman was unconvincing, Oldman as Gordon was almost like a different character (confused and almost senile in his dialogue and actions), Miranda Tate was a snooze feast that was clarity going to betray Bruce (if you didn't see it coming than you don't know movies, it was pretty on the nose), Alfred was a blobbing baby the whole film (and he is basically not present for a majority of the film, same as Lucius Fox hardly had any role.) Blake was a total misfire (a half Robin type character that they never pull the trigger on, cop that is disgusted using a gun? give me a break), and then there is Bruce/Batman who just had way, way too much self indulgent screen time and this self important framing (this was in Begins as well but they rightfully moved away from it to put the focus on the story in Dark knight; but then the indulgent focus on Bruce Wayne and his 'emotions' and motivations returns in Rises).

There is actually very few things I liked about this film. if I was to rate it subjectively I would give it a 3 or 4 out of 10. If I rated it objectively I think it deserves a 6 or 7 out of 10; but this is not a film that deserves to be rated above 75%.