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Semi-Officially, Biggest Box Office Bomb of All Time


With an overall loss of around $152 million, it is the biggest box office bomb of all time, a record previously held by the film Mars Needs Mom. That's too bad, I kinda root for Keanu.

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I'd like to know where you're getting this. BoxOfficeMojo reports that 47 Ronin has made $150M worldwide with a reported production budget of $175M. Mars Needs Moms only made $40M worldwide with a production budget of $150M. Going by those numbers alone Mars Needs Moms clearly lost more money.


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That is just the costs or producing the movie. Most times advertising, promotion and distribution expenses are not counted into it's reported budget. On average, a film has to almost double it's initial budget to break even.

List of biggest Hollywood bombs:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_box_office_bombs

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Ok let's double the budgets:

47 Ronin
175x2=350-150= 200 loss

Mars Needs Moms
150x2=300-40= 260 loss

You're still wrong.

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Dummy, I said on average. It's not written in stone that every movie puts the same percentage into distribution and advertising. I gave you the link, you can believe what you want.

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Wikipedia (yeah yeah I know) does state 47 Ronin being #1 on the list of biggest b.o. bombs of all time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_box_office_bombs#Biggest_box_offi ce_bombs

There's also an article citing such here: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-universals-47-ronin-6 67771

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I'd like to know where you're getting this. BoxOfficeMojo reports that 47 Ronin has made $150M worldwide with a reported production budget of $175M. Mars Needs Moms only made $40M worldwide with a production budget of $150M. Going by those numbers alone Mars Needs Moms clearly lost more money


If you use a formula of Worldwide Gross (WWG) / 2 and then minus the production costs, then according to Wiki 47 Ronin is the all time loser (Beaten by the 13th warrior when adjusted for inflation):

47 Ronin:
WWG = 150 million , production = 225 million = losses $150 million

Mars Needs Moms:
WWG = 39 million, production = 150 million = losses $130 million


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_box_office_bombs

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Except Disney announced a $200m loss on John Carter:

http://www.deadline.com/2012/03/disney-expects-200m-loss-for-john-cart er/

- though the actual loss was probably higher since it failed to generate the theatrical revenue hey based their calculation on.



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i just watched the film, there's no way this movie costs more than $100 million to make. unless the actors got a huge paycheck.

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Yeah I too was really dissapointed at the effects. I at least thought they would look good with this budget but it seems most of it went into reshoots.
I don't know about the marketing loss thought, it seems that universal was from the beginning ready to admit this as a failiure and didn't spend much on it. It wasn't released in that many territories, I barely heard of this film until a week before it came out. And it was never released theatrically where I live.
So I guess Universal tried to dodge the bullet as much as they could on that one, and because they had a good year otherwise there was not that much talk about this movie being a box office bomb.

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