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Shogun: "It's obvious that I was dead wrong..." (spoilers)


"...and that the reason your lord dishonored himself was due to black magic; though it's very clear that I made the wrong call, and you were right for avenging his death and killing the bad guys, I've got good news for you: I'll allow you all to kill yourselves."

What a stupid ending. The Ronin should have decapitated that bald old fvck instantly, and then thrown a party.

And I know that the ending follows the original tale. But it still sucked.

By the way, this movie was about 100 times better than I thought it would be.

"Utah...Get me two."

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And I know that the ending follows the original tale.
Putting aside the fantasy elements and the Kai character, surprisingly the story did stick reasonably closely to the main recognized elements of the original tale.
By the way, this movie was about 100 times better than I thought it would be.
Agree with that too. 🐭

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I had no idea about the original story, I just watched on demand with no expectations. I thought it was decent, the cgi was weak (but it usually is.) main thing I didn't like was the ending and if that stays true to the original story then I'm glad they added some elements. The Asians are all about some suicide and the director knew that there would be a huge backlash if they didn't end it like the psycho Japanese did. Also, pg13 and has more decapitated heads than a horror film.

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Well, no. They shouldn't have "decapitated that bald old fvck". That's not how a ruler works. Yes, witchcraft was involved, but they are still ronin and they killed not just one guy, but an entire castle's worth of samurai. The guy was, on top of that, a lord and they were renegades. The shogun reigns supreme here. His word was "I forbid you to seek revenge", because he understood the entire affair as Lord Oldguy wanting to kill Lord Badguy and he expected Oldguy's samurai to kill Badguy, because they wanted to overthrow him and avenge his master. He did not know that Lord Badguy was, in fact, the bad guy. If that was the case, then the shogun would've probably hanged Badguy and would've allowed Oldguy's suicide. Why would've Oldguy still died? Because he still brought dishonor to his house and attacked a guest, whether witchcraft or not.

The only things the ronin did in the end, was restoring their honor and being allowed a samurai's death. That's why their deed was and is so revered in Japan. The shogun could've had mercy, but I think from a medieval point of view "having mercy" is a disgrace in comparison to "dying with honor". Besides, what good would've it brought the reinstated samurai to KILL THE RULER OF JAPAN? That would've disgraced them again and all their efforts would've been moot.

It's important to remember that in those times HONOR was more important than anything else.

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