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Why didn't they take more organs from them.


I wasn't sure had to word my subject.

My question is why didn't they use more organs from them. At their last donation surgery they take one of their organs and then just leave the room. They could take corneas from their eyes and skin grafts etc. When my father died they took his corneas and gave it to a person who was going blind. I know they both had given three organs altogether but it seems like they could have taken more.

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Very good question. I think that when Ruth is abandoned by staff at the end of her surgery, this is done for dramatic effect. It shows that her life is valueless to the "real humans".

In our world it would make sense for the surgeons to harvest the rest of her organs and put them on ice: but perhaps in this alternate reality that is unnecessary because donors are never in short supply, and organs are only taken when specifically needed?

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I can see that now, that you pointed out, it is for dramatic effect and how the surgeons and nurses were treating them like objects instead of people.
Thanks for your comment.

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There are a few technical reasons why they might only take a few organs:

1. Supply & Demand - in the case of corneas, they are one of the few tissues which can be stored so don't need to be used straight away. Corneas also don't need to be tissue typed unless the patient's corneas have become vascularised (blood vessels growing across the surface of the cornea). For that reason they would probably have a large store of corneas and wouldn't need to take corneas from every single donor - this happens in the real world. Considering they have lots of donors being raised, then maybe supply outstrips demand for many other organs too - this is suggested since donors live a while until they're needed.

2. Tissue typing - most organs need to be tissue typed to make sure the donor is a match for the patient (the few exceptions are some corneas and livers). Many organs also don't last very long (hearts and lungs must be transplanted within 6 hours - which isn't very long in terms of surgery), so if they urgently needed one organ for a patient, but had no use for the other organs, then there's no need to take out every organ. This is implied a few times, when Kathy says most donors survive 3 or 4 donations but some don't even survive 1 - it probably depends entirely on what they need.


...but most of it is probably for poetic license - after all, technicalities like tissue typing could have easily been put into the storyline but weren't. Tissue typing would have also made much more sense than having clones - but since the story is entirely from the view of the donors then I like to think that part of the story was just false rumours (I work in transplantation so maybe I'm biased! :p ).

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This is implied a few times, when Kathy says most donors survive 3 or 4 donations but some don't even survive 1 - it probably depends entirely on what they need.


Yes, I think also like this. It depends on the organ, that's why they die.
Very sad.

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nice answer

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I was thinking about that too.

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It's "rumored" that they do.

Take another look at the scene where Ruth and Kathy are reunited, and Ruth is saying there's a rumor that after four donations they drop the "carers" and make the donors linger indefinitely on life support and sedation in crummy rooms donating until they die. "I don't think I'd particularly fancy that," she says.

That's probably what they do.


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it was a rumour to have them "complete"the fourth time so that they did not want to be in that bad room with out the cares, This is foreshadowed when the nurse says "They will complete when they want"So 99% will not live beyond the 4th time becuas they do not want to life beyond that m the fact ruth says she doesnt want that is an indication that she wont be alive after the 4th ddonation, such as most of the donors would not want to live beyond 4 for the premis of no care. so yes it is a carer's rumourh but only one to help them complete after the 4th time.

what doesn't kill you hasn't been done properly.

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In the book they actually take out every single organ of the donators.

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Don't forget that it's never stated that just the one organ is 'donated' each time. Multiple organs at once would obviously reduce the number of possible operations. Perhaps organs are taken on an 'as required' basis, explaining why some last longer than others. As for the magical number 4, I agree with the previous poster who speculates that this is fiction, that they ALL end up as living, unthinking, vegetables, being cut open when required.

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I've seen the film long ago, so I couldn't tell what they actually show. But in the book there's this story circulating among the donors about what happens once they "terminate": they keep them alive somehow to go on taking the rest of the organs from them. Their urban myth claims they are still conscious while they do that. So, why not taking them altogether right away when they reach a certain age? There's a hint of an answer in the book: these are the first decades since donations started, and society is still uncomfortable with the idea of these clones; so I guess they still provide them a kind of hope -and, most important, the uncertainty of the moment of death: donors can live a little longer as long as they survive their donations. At the end of the book, we get to know that things are changing now, towards much less "humanitarian" policies.

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Organs need to be stored until ready to use. What better place than in the body
itself.


Margie

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I think it's quite likely that they actually take more organs when the donor "completes" (dies), but we just don't see it in the movie.

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