was she actually raped?
when he inject her with some kind of drug...and later on ..she sees in security cam that he is trying to *beep* her....was she actually raped or not?...because we only saw that shes wearing panties .
shareYes, that's why she started crying, and I believe he may have done it several times before, since she didn't remember the time he did it to her that she caught on her surveillance equipment. it wasn't until after she installed it that she knew what he was doing to her.
He mentioned when he attacked her the final time, that this time you'll be awake and remember it.
It just seems rather odd she would wake up and not feel different down there to some degree, since he didn't appear to use a condom.
Guy was a first class perv.
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Well, we don't know for sure he didn't use a condom, we don't get to see that much.
Unless he was really rough, there is no reason she would feel different "down there". He might have used lube too. He could probably take his time and even wipe her off afterwards.
She woke up in the morning, totally unaware that she had been raped. Even if she would feel some sort of discomfort down there, the thought of having been drugged and raped by her landlord would probably never occur to her.
How old are you?
Really even women who have been given a date rape drug and wake up fully clothed always have a feeling they've had sex. There can be vaginal tearing with consensual sex, but when it's rape there is almost always vaginal tearing even if the woman is unconscious and some have stated they were sore. Doctors can usually tell this when they do a rape kit on a woman who has been date raped.
Rape isn't about sex it's about anger and control, so no rapist is going to go out of his way to be gentle.
In her case she knew something was wrong, but since she was drinking wine laced with meds to make her even more out of it, she still knew something was off, even with lubrication. Coma victims who have awoken from comas have stated they were aware people were talking to them and procedures that were being done to them.
She just had no reason to truly believe she had been raped but she finally figured out something wasn't right and she had the cameras install so she apparently had some idea on a subconscious level.
I doubt very seriously the whack job character in the film would have used a condom since he had know reason to believe he would get caught.
You're saying what he probably did, we saw him undo his pants and then they show her reaction the guy didn't take the time to put on a condom. he was a jackwagon nut job.
In all fairness this was really bad movie IMO, I watched it twice to give the actors all of whom I've liked in other projects they done including the supporting actors a chance at redemption because this film was ill conceived, and the actors were all wasted.
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I'm 25, why do you ask? I'm also a woman and I've had sex. I know what it 'feels like down there' after sex. Coincidentally, I'm also a medical student.
And I don't care much for your condescending tone.
Really even women who have been given a date rape drug and wake up fully clothed always have a feeling they've had sex. There can be vaginal tearing with consensual sex, but when it's rape there is almost always vaginal tearing even if the woman is unconscious and some have stated they were sore. Doctors can usually tell this when they do a rape kit on a woman who has been date raped.
Thanks for the info. But like I said, the use of lube would affect how sore the woman would feel. Also the size of the penis and MOST IMPORTANTLY the roughness.
Look, my point is: if you went to bed at night, thinking you were safely locked in and alone it would take A LOT for you to suspect you had been raped even if you woke up in the morning feeling a little sore down there. You weren't out drinking hanging around strangers, you hadn't recently accepted any food or beverage that could have been drugged, there is virtually no clues. Even if you felt a little weird down there, you would probably chalk it up to cramps, period, vaginal discharge, on-coming yeast infection, or simply ignore it, I don't know anything but the possibility that you had been secretely raped in your own home at night. Sometimes I wake up feeling sore down there, but usually it's when I have my period. It's not the same kind of 'soreness' sex can give you, but close enough.
I'm willing to bet it's not the same for every woman.
Rape isn't about sex it's about anger and control, so no rapist is going to go out of his way to be gentle.
Thank you again for telling me things I already know. In reality, yes, most rapists are doing it out of anger. But I think you're getting a bit too carried away here and forgetting that this is a FICTIONAL story, with a fictional script written by someone who wanted to show us how obsessed this man was with her. From what we see her do to her he IS pretty gentle. He kisses her and carresses her softly, holds her in his arms etc. I don't think it would be far-fetched to suspect that he would use lube and be fairly gentle with her during the rape. If he was was so rough she received vaginal tears, don't you think this would have been hinted in the movie?
In her case she knew something was wrong, but since she was drinking wine laced with meds to make her even more out of it, she still knew something was off, even with lubrication. Coma victims who have awoken from comas have stated they were aware people were talking to them and procedures that were being done to them.
Right. She suspected something was wrong. Never denied that. Obviously that was the reason why she got the cameras installed. But it's pretty obvious she had NO idea she was being raped until she finally watched the video. Bringing in anecdotes from real-life coma patients is completely irrelevant in this case. The film is pretty clear about what she is experiencing and suspecting and my only argument is that yes, if the rape was carried out gently while the victim is heavily sedated then YES, it would be possible to get away with it for at least some time.
Whether or not he used condom or not is not something you or I know. I wasn't saying 100% for sure he did, I was just saying it was fully possible he did. Just because we see her reaction so quickly doesn't mean he had immediate gone to penetrate her. Her reaction could have been to him whipping out his penis and putting a condom on, who knows? Your just making assumptions. As am I, of course, but you're the only one being condescending and worked up about it.
Calm the hell down, it's just a movie not an autobiography of actual events.
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But like I said, the use of lube would affect how sore the woman would feel. Also the size of the penis and MOST IMPORTANTLY the roughness.
Any time a man or woman is penetrated regardless of any lubricant or the roughness he could have been as gentle as a dove and regardless of of their being conscious there is going to be soreness.
But hey if you're a guy and you ever get knocked out by a date rape drug and wake with all your clothes on and feeling sore in the anal area I think it would be safe to assume you were raped and probed with something.
There are certain muscles that are involved in sex with a woman is conscious, which is why most of them usually suspect they've been raped and the same goes for men who have been raped in the same manner.
Calm the hell down, it's just a movie not an autobiography of actual events.
As I stated how old are you, and where in my post am I upset, I presented some facts about rape I see no reason to get upset about anything posted on this site. I also don't make assumptions which is why I asked how old you are in the first place? Your post reed like that of someone without a great deal of actual life experience or knowledge of rape.
The fact that you brought up lubrication, one rapist don't ever use lubricants, why would they care?, the only reason most of them use condoms these days is because they don't want to leave any DNA, he clearly licked her fingers and who knows what else so I doubt if he was concerned about leaving any DNA, he didn't think he was going to get found out.
I don't know where the idea about the movie came from but there have been cases where something like this has happened. I believe several years a ago there was a couple who was doing this to young women who would stay with them as boarders in their house, I believe they eventually disposed of the young women, and it was there children who eventually dropped the dime on the parents.
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I already told you I am 25. Why do you keep asking? Did you not bother reading my post?
Any time a man or woman is penetrated regardless of any lubricant or the roughness he could have been as gentle as a dove and regardless of of their being conscious there is going to be soreness.
But hey if you're a guy and you ever get knocked out by a date rape drug and wake with all your clothes on and feeling sore in the anal area I think it would be safe to assume you were raped and probed with something.
There are certain muscles that are involved in sex with a woman is conscious, which is why most of them usually suspect they've been raped and the same goes for men who have been raped in the same manner.
You can keep repeating the same point over and over again, but it won't make you right. You're wrong.
I don't know why you brought anal rape into this, because it's not what we're talking about. The anus is far more sensitive to penetration, not at all comparable to vaginal muscles, so let's leave that out of this discussion please, it has nothing to do with it. After all the anus wasn't designed to push out a baby, was it?
No, there won't ALWAYS be soreness after sex. You're wrong and this convinces me that you have no idea what you're talking about. I don't know if you're just being stubborn at this point or if you really are this ignorant. Like I said, even if it's rape and done on a unconscious person, if it's done gently, and the penis is relatively small then most likely the person will not wake up having distinctive soreness and start to suspect rape. Especially not in a circumstance given in this movie: where you go to sleep at night, in your own bed, with your door locked and not expecting in a million years anyone could have drugged and raped you.
I wasn't even sore after my FIRST TIME having sex. We didn't use lube and the guy wasn't super gentle, and it actually hurt during the act but I remember actually laying in bed a couple of hours after wards and thinking how weird it was that I didn't feel sore at all. If I had had memory loss and someone would have asked me if I thought I had sex last night my answer would probably have been no. Sorry for getting so personal, but I think you need to wake up and realize that your assertion that all sex causes discomfort to women, is wrong. The vagina is not THAT sensitive to penetration, at least not for a grown woman.
The fact that you brought up lubrication, one rapist don't ever use lubricants, why would they care?, the only reason most of them use condoms these days is because they don't want to leave any DNA, he clearly licked her fingers and who knows what else so I doubt if he was concerned about leaving any DNA, he didn't think he was going to get found out.
Again, he was extremely gentle with her. He probably wanted to be able to keep doing it without her getting too suspicious. Within the context of THIS MOVIE it's not far-fetched to believe he used lubricants. He's obviously not the typical rapist, he is way creepier and more obsessed, has this infatuation with her. You can tell he thinks he loves her in his own twisted way.
Again, I don't KNOW if he used condoms or not, but I don't find it unlikely. It's not just the risk of leaving DNA, it's also the possibility of impregnating her, did that ever occur to you?
Licking her finger would leave saliva containing DNA, yes. But it would pretty much be washed off immediately in the morning. Or right before work. You don't think she got up in the mornings, had breakfast and went to work and started performing surgery without ever washing her hands, do you? Or that she would have got up in the morning and for no reason at all decided to immediately go to the police and let them look for DNA on her fingers? LOL.
Your post reed like that of someone without a great deal of actual life experience or knowledge of rape.
That's funny, because I was going to say the exact same thing about you. You have a very narrow-minded view on sex and what it takes to cause soreness or discomfort.
Some of the things you say might be accurate in MOST cases and I've never argued that, but you seem to forget that this is a movie, with a script written by people who probably didn't care to research too deeply into the psychology of rapists. They just wanted to make a movie about a crazy landlord stalker. You seem so caught up in arguing what may or may not have happened in the movie from a "what is the most common scenario in real life"-kind of stand-point, but I think that is ridiculous and stupid, because like I said, this story is not based on real events where a woman was drugged and raped by her landlord who had secret tunnels in the apartment building. It is JUST a fictional story.
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I was restating the question I had previously asked in reference to my first post, and as I stated it says a lot. if anything you sound upset.
I'm not forgetting it's movie, I didn't bring up the topic of lubricant or condoms you did, did you not?
they're assumptions on your part, we know she was raped, other than that is just an assumption on your part. I never made any assumptions about what he did only by what was shown and then her decision to install cameras because the character started having some suspicions she was being violated.
I'm just going by what was shown in the movie.
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Actually you brought up the condoms in the first place. My first post in this topic was a response to that.
As for the lubes, I was simply explaining how it could be possible to drug and rape someone without them knowing about it the next day.
It wasn't an assumption, I was just making the point that within the context of the film it WAS likely.
You're the questioning my age and trying to lecture everyone on the psychology of rapists. Let's not back-peddle now.
Anyways, this discussion is futile. It's just a movie, so in the end it's not really worth speculating about what may or may not have happened in a fictional story.
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Actually you brought up the condoms in the first place. My first post in this topic was a response to that.
It just seems rather odd she would wake up and not feel different down there to some degree, since he didn't appear to use a condom.
Yes I did as an example of what he didn't appear to use, and I didn't assume anything now did I?
You made assumptions.
I'm only going by what I saw, I saw him undo his pants, I didn't see a condom, or lubricant in the film.
I'm going by her reaction to what she saw just as it cut away as he undid his pants, there was no pause when it cut away to her face just an instantaneous reaction, and she started crying when she saw she was assaulted.
I brought up condoms again to clearly make the point that rapists only where condoms when they think they might get caught by DNA evidence.
I didn't bring anything up as an assumption, and that is the difference in our post.
You brought up assumptions, I based my opinions on what was made available for the audience to see.
When you assume you only make an ass of yourself, and you're clearly upset about this topic, because I called you out on your assumptions.
No one else since this post has been up here since April has never made any such assumptions except you, now have they?
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You are unbelievably disingenious. In all of your past posts you have ASSERTED that there is no way he would have used a condom or lubricants because rapists don't do that. Those were your own words. You kept referencing to what rapists do in real life and tried to use those facts to disprove the possibility that this fictional rapist could have used condoms or lubes. And when I point out the futility in using real life to prove or disprove the actions of fictional characters you start to back-peddle.
Please, you are starting to sound clinically insane. Go back to your posts and read them again.
I'm not do anything, I stated my opinions based on rapist, not the character in the film.
I used those facts to support my observations of the fictional rapist, I made no assumptions.
I think the character is a jackwagon pervert rapist.
Real rapist I used facts.
I made no factual or assumptive statements regarding the fictional rapist, I clearly stated what he didn't appear to do on film.
I got my information about rapist from facts and personal experience, I've known three women in my life who were raped.
I never made any assumptions about the characters in the film now did I?
You can't read I clearly stated in my first post he didn't appear to use a condom.
Please show me where I made any assumptions about the character using anything?
Do you assume a lot?
Try again, but as W.C. Field once stated try, try and try again then quit there is no point in being a damn fool about it.
You should really stop assuming.
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This has gone way too far and we seem to have gotten tangled up in a ridiculous discussion about who is and isn't assuming things.
Look, the OP of this thread wanted to know if it would be possible to RAPE someone who was drugged without that person waking up the next day and knowing they were rape. I simply made the point that YES, it is possible, provided that the rapist isn't too rough. Using lube would also increase the chances that the woman does not feel sore the next day. That's why I brought up lube. I wasn't making the point that he MUST have used lube. But I think it's pretty obvious from the movie he was overall very gentle with her when molesting her. He kissed her tenderly (I'm sure in his sick mind he was pretending he was making sweet love to her) and it's not that far-fetched to believe he might have used lubricants as to facilitate the penetration and make sure there would be as little chance as possible of her waking up in the morning and feeling violated.
I think the movie clearly showed she was clueless about the rape. However the fact that she felt there was someone there with her at times and the fact that she felt so sleepy in the mornings made her suspect that something was going on at night.
So no, I'm not assuming anything. Just trying to argue why I think certain scenarios could have been possible in a situation like this. You however don't seem to understand this. In ever single post in this thread you've been repeatedly contradicting every point that I've made and referenced to what you know about rapists in real life. When really this can't be compared to a real life situation. He is not raping her with the intent to harm or degrade her, he is purely driven by obsession and lust. Otherwise he wouldn't have bothered drugging her and just attacked her and savagely raped her!
Is this scenario common in real life? NO. But this is a fictional movie. Holding on real life facts is pointless.
Yes you said he 'didn't appear' to use a condom, but I simply made the point we can't ASSUME that based solely on the fact that we didn't see it. So now who's assuming?
Since you seem to refuse to go back and look at your own posts let me quote them for you.
Rape isn't about sex it's about anger and control, so no rapist is going to go out of his way to be gentle.
This is you ASSUMING he couldn't have been gentle.
The fact that you brought up lubrication, one rapist don't ever use lubricants, why would they care?
This is you ASSUMING he couldn't have used any lube.
the only reason most of them use condoms these days is because they don't want to leave any DNA, he clearly licked her fingers and who knows what else so I doubt if he was concerned about leaving any DNA, he didn't think he was going to get found out.
This is you ASSUMING he didn't use any condom.
So clearly, not only are you being unnecessary argumentative and condescending, you are being quite the hypocrite and dishonest at that. It seems you type without using you brain at times.
I really think this is futile. I really do not plan on continuing this as like I said, it's pointless. I like to discuss things like this, but I don't see the point in doing so when it's just leading to increased exchange of insults.
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You're the one making all the long post and making assumptions, and you're the only one who sounds like they're upset.
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A. How old are YOU? The grammar in your posts reads like that of a high school student.
B. I take it you are a guy and therefore have no idea what it feels like to have sex as a woman. End of discussion. And I won't be responding to any reply you may make, so save your time and don't bother.
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I changed my mind, at first glance I thought you were just a troll, but after looking at some of your other comments it's apparent that you're just a loser with nothing better to do than piss everybody else off.
One, It would take loser to know a loser. So I don't know if you're loser, and i don't assume anything either.
Two, don't leave a comment and not expect a response, which is why I called you a bitch. This isn't an assumption, only an idiot would post a comment and not expect a response.
What idiot post a comment and tells some one not to bother to respond, I guess a bitchy loser, again not an assumption just going by what you posted.
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Out of everything I said, you're getting hung up over the fact that I suggested you not reply? Seriously?
This made my night. I can't stop laughing.
No, I'm the one who is laughing, you post a comment and tell someone you're done and not to bother to reply, yet here you are again, you're either a delusional hypocrite or liar, again I'm not going to assume.
So try again, maybe you'll get it right this time. Liars begin by imposing upon others, but end deceiving and deluding themselves.
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No, I'm the one who is laughing, you post a comment and tell someone you're done and not to bother to reply, yet here you are again, you're either a delusional hypocrite or liar, again I'm not going to assume.
So try again, maybe you'll get it right this time. Liars begin by imposing upon others, but end deceiving and deluding themselves.
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Well it's been fun but I'm tired of seeing you repeat yourself so I'm bored now, it's like beating a dead horse. Too bad you can't fix stupid, although it does make for some great entertainment!
Welcome to my ignore list. If you contact me in any other way I will report you, but knowing you you probably won't be able to help yourself.
This coming from the person who trolled over to this post, then post a comment and doesn't want people to reply to their post, yet keeps on posting you're a joke.
If you put someone on ignore they can't send you any messages. Duh!?, go ahead report me.
You're the one who contacted and replied to my post to someone else, and responding to my post, and then you're stupid and arrogant enough to make demand telling someone not to reply. Yeah, nothing like advise from a wise hypocrite not once but twice now you make demand!
You being so smart you would think you would know that they could look through the post and see who contacted who first.
If you don't want a response to your post, here is a clue for you wise one don't post anything. I know it make be too simple a concept to grasp for one as wise as you.
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Can anyone pls tell me why it it an R rating? was there any sex scenes or was it mostly for the language...thanks
shareThere were no actual sex scenes on screen but you can see Hilary Swank in a blurred bathroom scene, and another one when she puts on her white underwear and you can clearly see through her underwear since she puts it on while she's still wet from her bath. You can see her private parts both upper and lower, you can also see through her underwear and there is a close up shot of her crotch area and you can clearly see how she shaved, but none of it's sexual, she gets out the shower gets dressed.
You would see more nudity watching a series on HBO. They probably could have gotten away with a PG-13 rating since it was a straight to video release. Honestly I don't know why it got the rating it did, I also don't know if there was a different version released to theaters.
It was released in cinemas in the United Kingdom on March 11th 2011. On April 8th 2011, the film was also released in select cinemas in the Netherlands. In July 2011, the movie will also be released in cinemas in Indonesia. On July 22, the movie was released to Brazilian theaters. The film was also released in Spain and Greece.
It could also be that they thought if they gave it an R rating that more people might be tempted to buy it in the U.S..
This IMDb link list all the scenes in the film that may have been why it got the R rating.
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To the two ladies who actually bothered to try and discuss things intelligently with this fellow;
My condolences for your wasted time.
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One check who you're replying to, and take your own advice, Two never assume you only make a fool of yourself. The question was if she was actually raped?, and she was raped, even the actors have now stated she was raped but it was the intent of the movie to never show the rapes as they stated taking place.
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Lol..@thealien IMO every body is different it is quite possible to be raped and not know a damn thing happened to you (or so I've read stories of women who didn't know until some time after the incident took place) not from personal experience..some people may feel different down there after sex, and some might not it depends on you. he seemed to treat her gently (like a lover), so I wouldn't think she would have a lot of trauma down there.
shareI was reading through the comments here and was getting irritated with the arrogance of one poster claiming to know how women feel sore after sex every time and must know they have had it. However after a lengthy reading session it seems he just can't accept that some aspects of his posts were false. However it was incredibly funny and I won't waste time trading sense for idiocy but congratulations to the ladies that had the patience to try and help him learn something.
My advice, relax this is the internet, there is nobody to impress and you would have gained some respect admitting there may have been some errors made by yourself. Or as is inevitable please send some charmingly rude response below full of how dumb I am and how you are not assuming something. I think that's how it works right? :)
I agree. The arguments in this thread have been...interesting and a little tedious at times. The whole time I'm thinking: These posters, when not arguing on IMDB, have to be the best lawyers money can buy!
I think the point was just, of course, to potentially creep women out--not that there needs to be more of that, ha--with open implications of what the abuse exactly was to make the paranoid mind wander into darker realms. I mean, who honestly thought of all this technical stuff during the film? About condoms, insemination, roughness, lubrication and, almost forgot, arousal states and possibly cervixes. Other movies might deserve the scrutiny for a challenging or enlightening discussion but it's giving it too much credit. I mean, movies are typically documentation of the exceptional and I'm going to guess it was no different here: over-the-top enough to jar senses, but then only realistic enough to be somewhat believable in that moment. I'd like to think he was just a loser at Monopoly and gave her the unconscious beating of her life, but that would have been, um, fairly uncinematic.
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My condolences as well.
I'm sorry to say that I have wasted time arguing with morons on IMDb, and many are really arrogant and just can't admit that they're wrong. You might as well argue with a wall or a broken record. This guy was pretty frustrating but there was never any point in trying to engage him in intelligent discourse.
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I can't believe a man would even attempt to argue with a woman any issue regarding whether an unconscious woman would know if she had experienced intercourse or not. Give your head a shake. My apologies to the women involved on behalf of reasonable men everywhere.
shareI can't believe a man would even attempt to argue with a woman any issue regarding whether an unconscious woman would know if she had experienced intercourse or not. Give your head a shake. My apologies to the women involved on behalf of reasonable men everywhere.
One she wasn't just unconscious, she was drugged, and the drug put in her wine. The combination of the two knocked completely out, it's why she was out of it even when she was at work.
Two did any of you watch the movie, he clearly says at around (1:10:50 mark) that this time she gets to remember and he shoots her in the leg with a needle. So clearly she didn't remember being raped or having intercourse the previous times.
Three unless some of these women have been drugged an sexually assaulted how would they know, and men have been drugged and sexually assaulted as well. Ironically the Obama administration on Friday expanded the FBI's more than eight-decade-old definition of rape to count men as victims for the first time and to drop the requirement that victims must have physically resisted their attackers.
OP question "Was she actually raped" under the new guide lines yes, and since this was done before these guidelines he clearly tells her they had sexual intercourse, and that she didn't remember the other times, there are drugs that affect short term memory.
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Last week a friend of mine invited me over to a party. He was a man that I had dated previously, but had not seen in quite some time. When I got there Billy gave me a drink he had already made for me. I remember talking to him and one of his friends. After about 20 minutes his friend left and Billy said he had to go upstairs for a minute. Then it hit me like sledge hammer, I was SO sleepy. Alls I could think was that I needed to lie down and now. (This was completely out of character for me.)
The funny part is that I don’t remember where I went or what I did after that moment. Billy woke me up the next day and it was already in the afternoon. I was in his bed. He was acting completely normal and fine, which only made me feel more confused. I had no skirt or underwear on. I didn’t know what to think or do. So, I made a hasty exit. When I got home and looked in my mirror I had a bruise on the side of my neck, it looked like two fingers. But I don’t remember anything. I went home and slept for hours. My legs ached, my underwear was bloody, and my bottom still really hurts. How could I end up in a man’s bed and not know how I got there? How does GHB work?
There are bruises and scratches on my body and genitalia, but how could I have been raped if I don’t remember anything. Why would anyone want to rape me? Seriously, I am a 39 year old mother with three girls. Who would believe my story?
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Just do a search of date rape drugs and they'll all tell you that the women don't remember having sexual intercourse, and on some sites the stories come from women who state they couldn't remember.
Why is it they all say they couldn't remember being raped or having sexual intercourse?
It's obvious the women on here page didn't know what they were talking about in the first place.
Because the actual stories of women who were given a drug and raped are similar to what happened to Juliet in this film she couldn't remember, she had vague memories.
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as a woman, i am surprised anyone bothered to argue with you, knight_sentinel. any woman who does not feel something between her legs the next morning, post-coitus, needs to seriously start doing some kegels, because she has a medical condition. i truly cannot imagine being that loose (unless possibly right after giving birth, in which case KEGELS, ladies!) that i wouldn't feel something the next day. ridiculous.
maybe women are different, in which case everyone arguing with knight_sentinel was being equally ridiculous, but from my perspective as a woman, the way in which they are different in THIS case would still lead me to recommend kegels to any woman who seriously believes she would not be aware she had been penetrated, after the fact.
Have you ever been drugged, you're giving your perspective as woman, that from your own post doesn't indicate you've ever been drugged and raped?
I'm going by what real women have stated in interviews as to "NOT" remembering what happen and "NOT" being aware that they were raped or had sex.
If you had bothered to read any of the links I left to sites with "ACTUAL" rape victims who had been drugged and raped and had "ABSOLUTELY" no knowledge that they had been raped or had sex. Even the police that gave information about the women who had been drugged and raped stated the women didn't remember "ANYTHING" they would remember drinking somewhere and everything else was a blank, and they didn't know they had sex with anyone until they were checked out by a doctor.
No I've never been drugged or raped, but I'm just basing my opinion on what women who have been drugged and raped have stated.
I hope it doesn't happen to you but how can you say what "YOU" would remember doing if "YOU" had been drugged. Based on what other women have stated who have experienced being drugged and raped they did not remember and they did not know.
It's not about being a woman whose had sex, it's about woman who was drugged, and had that drug mixed with alcohol, which is how most people who use a date rape drug administer the drug, with alcohol, and alcohol affects the body as well, and couple the affects of alcohol and a date rape drug.
How can "YOU" say what "YOU" would remember, if "YOU" haven't experienced the affects of a date rape drugged mixed with alcohol?
I can only go by what other women who have experienced the affects, and stated they remembered nothing even having sex.
yeah, i am not stating i would remember or that anyone would, but the feeling post-coitus of having been penetrated? yeah, a woman would probably feel that the next morning, when she was herself again, when the drugs had worn off. i can't imagine how she would not feel that unless she had recently given birth. i do believe the date rape drugs are strong enough - i have never experienced that but a close friend of mine has and nothing whatsoever was remembered after - luckily her friends saw something weird and physically dragged her out of the bar. i have had full anesthesia, for surgery, and remembered nothing - a total blank. but penetration from copulation does leave some kind of residual feeling the next day.
nonetheless, in the context of THIS movie, she had already had sex with jack from what seems like the first time, so THAT at least would not have seemed OFF. i think her suspicions were aroused from day one, when he was actually moving around in her apartment and she heard something or saw a shadow, out of the corner of her eye. because this feeling-of-being-watched continued, and then elevated, with an unexplainable feeling of exhaustion in the mornings, she decided to install the alarm.
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I don't think anyone in that conversation was being intelligent; sorry. Secondly, what kind of intelligent lady has a moniker of "bite me loser?"
shareI find it interesting that he finally had a woman agree with his theory and he still debated their post.
I may be wrong but I thought at some point in the movie she did notice an irritation. I'll have to re-watch it.
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What in the actual phuq?
shareIt brought P.S I Love You to a whole different level ha ha
shareI think you're seriously out of touch with your (not YOU, I mean anyone) own body if you don't suspect SOMETHING. I am not saying you automatically know if you've been raped or something like that. Most people know their bodies. They know when something is out of place. They may not be able to put their finger on what exactly it is, but they would know. People who have been roofied still know that something happened to them. They just don't know what. No matter how gentle he may have been with her, she had to have felt that something was wrong. It is so personal. She had to have sensed the "feeling" of having someone's hands over her body. Even if she felt it was an intense dream or something but something that would make her out of sorts.
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You know all that for a fact, Knight? What's your source? For sure, some women have 'trouble' with penetration, but also a lot don't and never have. How do the hell do hookers cope? Also, how difficult can it be to let in a penis, when a vagina is capable of letting out a baby for christ's sake? As I said, elsewhere, a woman would be the best person to explain all that, but they won't do it openly and without hostility. If they did, it would cure a lot of misogynism.
You obviously can't read or you didn't bother to read all my posts because I left links as to where I got my information.
I also know from the medical training I had one, when a woman gives birth to a child their cervix dilates to allow a child to be delivered, I also know for a fact that not all women dilate sufficiently enough to deliver a child this way and have to have a cesarean birth.
Are you really asking how they call tell if a woman has been raped? I hope you're not serious.
Well a dead person can't talk, but a postmortem examination can still reveal whether a woman has been raped the same way a rape kit is done on a living woman even if she hasn't claimed to be raped.
MUMBAI: A 55-year-old woman was raped and murdered by an unidentified person late on Tuesday. The victim's body, which bore severe head injuries, was found near the BEST bus depot in Ghatkopar (E) on Wednesday.
The Pant Nagar police initially registered a case of accidental death. Later, an FIR was registered after the post-mortem showed that the victim, a ragpicker, was raped and might have been killed to destroy evidence, the police said. - http://bit.ly/1kc08cj
Maybe they performed a ritual and the woman told them she had been raped, LOL!, NO! they used tried and true scientific methods to determine she was raped, the police had written off as an accidental death, but a medical examiner still had to do an autopsy to determine the cause of the alleged accidental death the postmortem examination revealed the dead woman had been raped.
Again, if they can examine a dead woman and find signs of rape are you really going to continue to make assumptions that they couldn't tell if a woman who is living hasn't been raped even if she's not saying she was the victim of a rape?. Your assumption would be wrong.
You're also wrong to assume rapists are necessarily going to do it without care and gentleness. For sure, most ordinary guys who just want a good erotic experience don't want to be hurtful about it.
I'm not wrong i didn't assume anything..LOL! They look for other things besides the things I listed and it doesn't matter how gentle the loser rapists are with their victims they leave other kinds of evidence behind. DNA from saliva, hair follicles and a hosts of other clues that will tell an examiner whether the person was raped. Because even these loser gentle rapists have been caught.
I'm sure some of the loser rapists that have been caught were gentle with either their living victims or the ones they killed thinking it would conceal their crime.
To the best of my knowledge all rape is a violation, that's why it's called rape, the amount of force used is irrelevant because it's a rape.
Even watching any of the numerous scripted television medical dramas as well as any of the true crime and cold case documentaries that air on Discovery ID this type of information is given all the time.
Maybe you should have checked to see what a rape examination involves and you wouldn't be assuming anything, because they can tell regardless of whether the person is alive or dead.
A typical 'sexual assault forensic evidence kit' may include the following to investigate cases of rape and sexual assault, the kit contains tools that can be used by an examiner for collecting evidence. It includes an instruction manual, bags and sheets for evidence collection, swabs, comb, envelopes, blood collection devices and documentation forms. it doesn't matter if the rapist was gentle other evidence is left behind during and after a rape.
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