I was a Little Confused

They remained friends throughout their lives, but as far as romantic relationships go, all we know is that Ginsberg was in love with Carr, but Carr did not want a homosexual relationship. It's not clear how far the relationship went since we only have Ginsberg's account of it. Kerouac and Carr sharing a bed was simply convenience in the movie - nothing more was implied. Other than Carr, these guys were all into exploring their sexuality throughout their lives and didn't live by a middle class code of morality. Carr kind of kept out of it after the murder, but the rest of the Beats went on to live very colorful lives.

This film delves into a great deal of depth concerning gay male relationships, both sexually and non-sexually reciprocated. Not all gay men have to have gay sex together. Modernity is the bias that thrusts such an false and absurd ideology on gay film and literature - that being, in order to be a 'f@g' you have to stick your person somewhere 'not hetero-ly' normal for men.

But for many gay men, and many gay readers here - who know such walks of life - there is most certainly ample room to understand the deeper underpinnings of this film, as it mirrors LGBTQ relationships in a whole, and what it is trying to accomplish for the film in terms of illustrating the love between male characters, and the abject falling out of love that happens amongst lovers, and especially gay lovers.

Whether or not Jack Kerouac and Lucienn (in the film) were sexually engaged was not the attempt of envisioning being made here; the point was that they connected on a spiritual and artistic level. The real love story was about Lucienn and David, for they are the story that many gay male circles experience even up to today (right at this moment even) - that being, the love between an older and a younger male (not at all pedophilia for your hetero chumps).

Now there seems to be a lot of misguided straight people here on these board threads trying to translate into heterosexuality the extremities of gay male nuance, but for those who have experienced this walk of life, this film made resounding impression to what goes on in these types of relationships. Ginsberg was the late arrival to the story, but it was his witnessing of that love story between David and Lucienn, and the disapproval of Lucienn's mother, and what can only be surmised as the complete ostracication of David from his family, that makes the story, and the subsequent murder, all the more bittersweet injustice.

This notion even made a great point when it became part of the storyline, when David tells Lucienn right before he thrusts himself on the knife, that he knew what Lucienn felt when he chose to die at the year of 18 in Chicago. This film was not about Allen Ginsberg, or Jack Kerouac, or even about their literary work up to the 21at century. It was in fact, a gay love story, which ended in the death of one the most integral influences of Ginsberg and Jack Kerouac.

As someone who doesn't know the beat generation to well and probably shouldn't be saying anything, going off of the movie i'd say Lucien cared quite a bit for Allen. The way it seemed to be to me he pushed him away before sailing because he didn't want to get involved in another serious relationship, or possibly be like a David towards him. That all went away when he desperately needed help in court though.