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humanoid aliens...SNOOORE


anybody else hate it whenever aliens show up and hey look exactly like us?

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No, the only thing I like about programs are fun, witty or good writing, and nice plot twist. Everything else is superficial to me, like a new coat of paint. If you want to see what a big budget network television program looks like, look towards Teranova and all their green-screen added in glowing, outdated dinosaur designs.

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fair enough but don't you think humanoid aliens have become such a cliché?

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You do realise they have been engineered to look like humans (attractive ones at that) and really look like reptiles don't you?


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yes I do, that's why it bothers me. It's a trick that has been done to death by many sci-fi series and movies and comes of as very cheap: metamorphose, cloning, aliens are our ancestors, parallel evolution... whatever the excuse is it all boils down to this: simply to let human actors perform as aliens.

If I want interactions between people and things that look like people whatever they may represent, I'll watch a drama. Sci-fi is the place I go to for fancy effects ant cool looking monsters. Of course as the other poster said, a decent story is the core of any good series, but there's enough decent drama series out there and a decent sci-fi should add visual elements on top of a great story instead of coming up with excuses to cheap out on those visual elements.

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so you would prefer to see amorphous tentacled blobs, or biomechanical robots, or something else that 90% of people do not want to see. maybe you should make your own series. good luck with that.

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As an aspiring scriptwriter, this is very true. Creating a tv series is much harder than people think.

winter is coming.

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It's a metaphor, the human appearance is supposed to hide the evil intentions beneath. Make us trust them, because they talk, walk and behave like us. "We come in peace" as they said in the original 1983 mini. But they didn't, did they.

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The vast majority of people watching television are watching to see attractive humans move and act on the screen. A great majority of viewers are thinking with their lower brains (and genitals) when they view. If you are not convinced of this then spend some time on the Supernatural/ Vampire Diaries/ 90210 IMDB forums.
Sexuality sells television and even the 1960's Star Trek was based on skimpy outfits and some sexual innuendo in every episode and it's IMDB forums are still active. There are people there still talking about how hot Shatner was then.

People are attracted to symmetrical faces with clear eyes and smooth, unblemished skin. Notice how people like cat, dog, rabbit, pig or meerkat faces. We even like the 'grays' or 'visitor' alien style face like Roger on American Dad or Paul. Maybe it touches on some genetic programming in us to feel warmth to a babyish face with large eyes. Television and movies play on this fact all the time; aka Avatar movie. I doubt any television show can ever be successful with a truly alien looking hero or major interest race without 2 eyes and almond to roundish faces. Fur is OK (Ewoks) but warts or tentacles wouldn't do.

You will be let down by live-action television sci-fi if you want truly alien looking villains or heroes portrayed every week. Farscape attempted this but even all those major entities had broad eyes and faces lovable to a typical person's viewpoint and it had a very rocky financial path with fears of cancellation looming and it's still labeled as a 'cult classic' not for a broad audience.

You will need to watch animated shows wait till the day when humans meet a new extraterrestrial race with members willing to play on our television programs.

Clay P.
Well, sure, there's a bit of God in all of us just not enough to really do any good.

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Why don't people see a bigger point.

Obviously the "human" look of these creatures was camouflage.

But realistically, it is highly likely that an alien species that could survive on our planet would resemble species which exist on this planet already. If they can survive here, that means they require a similar atmosphere & environment. So their home planet is probably similar to ours. Meaning, they could easily resemble living creatures here already, which includes humans.

Peter Gibbons: "It's not just about me, & my dream of doing nothing!"

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It's total insanity to suggest Aliens would biologically look like humans.

Faking human appearance isn't such a stretch however after all it's not exactly hard to do that.

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No it actually isn't insanity. Again, any creature than can survive on our planet would most likely come from a planet with a similar environment. Otherwise the air here would be as poisonous to them as the air on Saturn would be to us.

Would they look exactly like humans, probably not. But similar, sure. And in this show, the human form was camouflage. But their lizard form was still humanoid & resembled earth lizards, which are still a species we are used to. That was my point. To assume that any alien creature that comes here HAS to look complete different from anything we have seen is silly. Sure, some could, but they probably wouldn't survive long in our atmosphere.

Peter Gibbons: "It's not just about me, & my dream of doing nothing!"

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Even with the same atmosphere, aliens would probably look nothing like us, they would most likely require lungs but maybe their gravity is less than ours so they would grow much larger, maybe their planet is colder than ours they may have fur, maybe their planet has high gravity so they walk on four or more legs. Perhaps their sun is closer, they could be cold blooded reptilian like aliens, they have no real land mass they are amphibian, it's slightly darker, they have more eyes, or better hearing... the list could go on forever.

I seriously doubt that even with a planet similar to ours, alien life would look nothing like us. There are far to many varibles. I just don't think you're correct.

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Apparently you need to reread what I said or get a dictionary. I said they likely would appear SIMILAR to animals/creatures indigenous to earth, which includes humans. If they come from a comparable atmosphere & environment, they would most likely resemble something living here already. Whether they have more legs, are fur covered, far shorter, or far taller, they would still likely look SIMILAR to creatures here on earth. Fur covered giant insects with 12 legs wouldn't still remind you of a spider or beetle? Of course it would. Hence the word similar.

If the creatures have to wear some sort of bio-suit to survive here... Now that is a completely different story. Then they could look like anything. Since our planet is not suitable for them, who knows where or how the developed.

Peter Gibbons: "It's not just about me, & my dream of doing nothing!"

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Why is it insanity? Given that we're talking about fictional representations and creations here, there are ways to explain why aliens might look like humans, or at least why they might be humanoid or resemble other animals on Earth. A good background myth is that there are direct connections between humans on Earth and aliens on other planets.

Popular sci-fi franchises like Star Trek and Stargate have added backstories involving ancient events where humans were either brought to different planets or an advanced race (or some higher power) seeded many planets with humans or human-like creatures. Is this plausible? Who knows? It's just fiction and it does help to explain why aliens might be humanoid.

There is no hard and fast rule about alien depiction. Even though mathematicians and theoretical astronomers assume that there must be alien life, we haven't discovered any such life to date. So first off, we still can't say conclusively if there is alien life. Then even if there is alien life, we don't have the faintest idea what it looks like or how it operates. Given all that, fiction writers are not bound by strict rules about any such alien life. There are even fewer rules when the intent is not to depict how aliens might look, but to explore social, philosophical and political issues through the genre of science-fiction.


"V" apparently began with the political novel "It Can't Happen Here" about a Huey Long-type character who becomes elected President of the United States and turns the U.S. into a fascist state, similar to Nazi Germany. The title refers to the common belief that dictatorship and authoritarian rule cannot happen in the U.S. because America is somehow unique. (The "City on a Hill" mythology.)

Other alien replacement/human-looking aliens stories like "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" played on the real-life fears that American society and government were being infiltrated by Communists and sympathizers/spies for the Soviet Union back in the 1950s. The idea was that Communists could look like anyone else, and so could the aliens in the story.

Is all this realistic to portray? Your guess is as good as mine or any of these writers. Every show or movie involves some artificial elements and a requirement to suspend some disbelief. For example, how can we watch private meetings and conversations anyway? Would there really be a camera in all of these private rooms? This is an artifice in any genre. Then you go on from there, adding more potentially fanciful elements. A writer/producer can go too far and make the story and production too unbelievable. But sometimes it doesn't really matter.

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I really don't mind humanoid aliens. It just destroys the illusion when they are amongst themselves and still wear their camouflage. If they want to save the budget, why not avoiding writing those situations right from the start and focus on showing the situation where it is plausible that they are masked.

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