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Would Those Guys Survive in the Bunker/Shelter?


Just wondering... The ex boyfriend of Keira is going to hide in a bunker/shelter to survive the asteroid's impact. Even with the 12 inch walls of steel would this work to protect them from a 70 mile asteroid impact? Just wondering...

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Some people on this board have come to the conclusion that the ex boyfriend (Speck) and his friends were delusional about being able to survive in there. I would try it too, just in case the asteroid's impact on the world wasn't as bad as predicted



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I think it would make a great dark dark comedy to make a sequel of them surviving the initial impact and doomed to die in six months and how they handle it. It would have to be DARK and messed up, so I doubt it could be made. But I'd love to see it!






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I think it would make a great dark dark comedy to make a sequel of them surviving the initial impact and doomed to die in six months and how they handle it. It would have to be DARK and messed up, so I doubt it could be made. But I'd love to see it!

I wanted to see a sequel of that, too . Or even of them surviving enough to restart society. That could be comical.



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With no life on the planet, they wouldn't survive. Roaches and other insects, bacteria and other microorganisms, they would probably all survive. Especially the microorganisms. It would probably take millions of years before anything edible for those humans came out of it. There's probably going to be an ash cloud blocking all light, so that even if you had dirt and seeds with you, you couldn't grow anything.

Maybe, and I mean maybe, if you had a *beep* tons of battery, lamps, dirt (and the microorganisms in it), seeds, something to enclose your area (to create a closed atmosphere), but then you might as well start living on Mars.

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Do we even know for sure what a massive asteroid strike would do globally? Science has only speculated upon it and it's not even conclusive a giant meteor killed off the dinosaurs. Even so, what do the survivalists have to lose? If there's a 1in 1000 chance of making it, why not prepare for that chance.

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Good questions. Something I have to keep reminding myself about is that Russian meteorite a little while back. After that relatively small meteorite disintegrated everything seemed fine on the ground. Going by the videos, everyone thought they were okay. They were standing around outside, chatting and filming the contrail. Then the sonic boom struck because of the energy created in the meteorite's path (NASA estimated the meteorite's speed was more than 40,000 miles per hour). Suddenly glass was falling on people, doors were being blown inward, etc., and caused more than 1400 injuries. A sonic boom would probably be many times greater with an asteroid. Depending on the size of the asteroid the effects of the sonic boom could cover a very large area or the entire world.

There were some fascinating things on TV recently about Asteroid Deflection Technology. I believe one of the techniques involved using a device out in space with a gravitational pull to change an asteroid's course. Multiple asteroids are due to come close to earth or to hit earth in the next 16 to 93 years. I would think governments would make Asteroid Deflection Technology an extremely high priority.



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The asteroid that killed off the dinosaurs was about 6 miles in diameter. This one was said to be 70 miles along - more than ten times as much, which means 1000 times the volume and probably around that much more mass and thus destructive power. No life on Earth's surface could survive that.

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incorrect. While MOST life as we know it would fail to survive, certain things such as bacteria, or other microorganisms, would survive. Also, worms MIGHT survive. However, since nearly every drop of water on earth would instantly evaporate, then those things won't live very long. However, if it was 70 miles wide, the speed, as well as the force of the impact, would destroy the earth as we know it. We would literally break into pieces....whether that is before or after the core of the earth goes through a pseudo-nuclear meltdown, and destroys everything within several thousand miles, I do not know. But, whatever remains would be debris floating through space....

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*beep*

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I do not think a 70 mile big "bullet" is large enough to shatter a globe such as our planet. One a few times larger than that would suffice I guess. Much depends on the density of the asteroid and the angle of its impact as well.

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What I thought was, the asteriod was going to decimate the planet, not just what is on the surface.

Nothing would be left but rocks that were once the Earth, floating in space.

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why not prepare for that chance?
Because, as some Nikita Khrushchev put it referring to global thermonuclear war, "The survivors would envy the dead."

Not just everyone, but everything would be gone. And unless you had, as someone else mentioned, your own underground greenhouse and power facilities to create sunlight, you would never, ever make it anyway. The nuclear winter that would come from an asteroid strike that big would block out the sun for HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of years.

Nope, I would be moving into that Friendsy's and f@cking everything that moved for three weeks straight until my balls were completely drained.




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Scientists do not speculate about that, the variables involved are the mass of the asteroid, its density, its speed, angle of impact and whether it strikes at land or in the ocean. If you have all these five variables you can calculate the energy of the impact quite precisely. If you know the force of the impact and where the body lands you can then estimate the consequences to the planet.

There are even on-line tools with which everyone can input variables and get data about the magnitude of the resulting destruction, such as this: http://impact.ese.ic.ac.uk/ImpactEffects/ That's of the Imperial College of London, but NASA has one too I think.

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This is a very useful calculator. Everyone should stop speculating, and try it. I did the calculations with a range of plausible impact speeds, dense rock, and dumped it into a shallow ocean. It's bad. 5,000 miles from the impact, the biggest problem is by far a foot of dust falling on everything. Don't even try it close enough for the fireball to be visible.

So, we're looking at say 1/4-1/3rd of the planet killed almost immediately (within hours, as blast waves knock out those who survive initial ground shocks, and then hundreds of yards of falling dust entomb the remaining few survivors) but mostly it's a long-term survival issue of the planet being covered in a layer of dust. Lots of darkness, so the plants that survive being covered (and many would, from wind and rain and people trying to keep crops and greenhouses alive) would have issues with the sun getting through the clouds.

So watch any of the long term nuke movies like The War Game and Threads and that's what we're looking at. Survival for a lot of the planet, decreasing population due mostly to starvation, lack of medical care, etc. and no one will enjoy it much.

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At a minimum, they would face a world of 'nuclear winter'. I don't think 6 month's supplies would help. Unfortunately, the government likely has shelters prepared. So yes, the cockroaches would survive!

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Don't you mean leeches?
Cockroaches aren't bloodsuckers.

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cockroaches and Kieth Richard....

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Not a chance.

But even if he (or more likely the government - Dr. Strangelove style) had a much bigger, tougher bunker deep underground and some people survived the initial impact, all the life on the Earth's surface would be destroyed. The Earth would be inhabitable - people would pretty much have to stay down there indefinitely.

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uninhabitable...


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Uninhabitable? Space dust! Seventy miles guarentees nothing remains. No bunker needed.

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Seventy miles is nothing - this planet has survived hits from FAR larger objects. In fact, it is now believed that the Moon resulted from a "sideswipe" with a body the size of Mars in the last days of Earth's formation. And on You Tube, one can find segments from a science documentary called "Miracle Planet" that simulates an impact with an 310 mile (500 km) rock https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zc4HL_-VT2Y; it is though that in the first 500 million years after it's formation, the early Earth might have been hit by up to FIVE of these monster asteroids.

So, unless "Matilda" was made out of some EXTREMELY dense material (like the crust of a white dwarf star,) or was moving at an appreciable fraction of the speed of light, the Earth would most definitely survive such an impact - unfortunately, one cannot say the same most of the planet's biosphere...

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Something I was wondering along these lines was about Penny. Do you think the plan was to use Penny as "Eve"?

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70 mile wide comet? Nope, the Earth's atmosphere would be completely blasted away. No survivors except the roaches and the microorganisms.

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A direct hit at a few thousand miles/hour speed at a steep angle from a body 70 miles big would most likely cover the entire earth with lava a few meters thick; that, even if it did not roast them, it would suffocate them in a few hours. They would need an oxygen supply of many months until the lava cooled, and then, if they managed to dig themselves out, they would find the entire earth burned many meters deep and thus sterile.

If it hit in the ocean a tsunami thousands of meters high would cover all the land, even the mid Un. States, mid Europe and mid Asia. Those few residing above 4-5,000 meters high could be saved.

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