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The rape and murder...Spoilers


Why does Gomez rape and kill his old friend, is it because he is obsessed with her, or he objectifies women (like he did to Irene) or something else?

Plus, I don't usually laugh out loud during any film, but Sandoval is a funny character.

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Oh I loved Sandoval. 'Sperm Bank....Donor Department....no, you have wrong number'....brilliant.

Yes, he is obsessed with her, but obviously has it in him to be a killer. He's just an unsavoury character, one that is encouraged by the thugs in power to do whatever he wants and he will get away with it due to the 'favours' system.

Therefore, on the one hand, he is just a mere sexually obsessed rapist, but on the other hand, his character serves as a metaphor of what was corrupt about the Dictatorship, how justice didnt' stand a chance and why there were so many injustices made during the dictatorship that were covered up.

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I wondered why Gomez raped and killed her, too, but in the Extras they have some screen test scenes and one of them shows Liliana opening the door to her old friend Gomez. He immediately went nuts trying to kiss her and push her up against the wall. She was fighting him and saying her husband would be home soon but he just got stronger and stronger and you could tell he hated her for not loving him the way he loved her (in his twisted mind) and he meant to hurt her.

It's too bad that scene was left out of the movie since it explained a lot.

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Wait a second, I'm confused now.

Are you guys saying that the real Gomez was Morales? Wasn't the name of the pervert (the one that looked at Irene dirty) really Gomez? What does that mean then? That Gomez hired someone to portray him?

On another topic, I was wondering if there was any significance with the lines spoken by the fake Gomez that was locked behind bars when he said, "Please tell him to at least talk to me." Why did he say that?

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Gomez was the pervert killer and Morales was the loving husband.

In the Commentary, they explained that when Gomez begged, "Tell him to at least talk to me," it was because all the life and fight had long gone out of him and all he wanted was to hear a human voice - Morales never spoke to him in all those years. Solitary confinement. The director said Gomez wouldn't be screaming or trying to get out by that point, that he'd be just a lifeless shell - just like Morales, the husband was.

I just watched the movie again and got so much more out it. So many clues that were subtle and I missed them the first time when I was glued to the subtitles. Like when Benjamin and Irene were looking at her old engagement party photos from 25 years ago, it clearly showed Benjamin staring at Irene with the same look that Gomez had for Liliana in those photos. He recognized the longing and desire in Gomez' expression because that's what he felt for Irene. Though, thankfully, he wasn't nuts like Gomez was.

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"Benjamin staring at Irene with the same look that Gomez had for Liliana"

Hence the title: The secret in THEIR eyes. (plural)

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I really thought it was Irene who saw it in Gomez's eyes when Benjamin was interrogating Gomez. After she came in and looked at Gomez and saw him looking down her shirt, she realized he was the killer and that is when she began insulting him to make him angry. She saw it in Gomez's eyes.

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On another topic, I was wondering if there was any significance with the lines spoken by the fake Gomez that was locked behind bars when he said, "Please tell him to at least talk to me." Why did he say that?


That was the real Gomez behind those bars. Morales, the victim's husband, is a totally separate guy; nobody was pretending to be anyone else. He lied to Esposito about killing Gomez; he had said all along that he thought putting Gomez to death would be too kind, and that he deserved to live a long and empty life. That's why Morales captured and kept Gomez for that whole 20+ year stretch, and why he refused to even speak to him: Having the man who raped and murdered his wife alive and in torment (never spoken to, doomed to stay in that prison until death) was, in Morales' view, "retribution."





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What movie did you watch? Fake Gomez???
Must be a pain watching a movie with you.

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LOL! Yeah, what is wrong with that person.

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Fake Gomez was tim Curray and we all make mistakes because he looks sort of foriegn or at least, weird

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I see it happen all the time at IMDB. Kids who are used to watch "action" movies, one day watch an adult drama like TSITE, and misunderstand it completely. The point is, when you watch an adult movie, you need to concentrate on it, stop the DVD player if you get up for a drink, don't talk to your friends, etc., or else you might miss a tiny piece of dialogue that is crucial to understanding the movie.


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What? Kids only watch action movies apparently now eh? The guys just absent-minded.

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I love AngryTypingGuy's reply. I haven't laughed that hard in a while. These boards need thumbs up or "likes".

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He rapes and kills her because of what Irene says during the interrogation. He's furious because he knows that a woman like that is way out of her league. He's obsessed with her and can't stand seeing her happily married. He probably wonders "why the hell can that guy have her and I can't?"

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Because he's a one-dimensional stock movie psycho.

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