Hasn't anybody thought that the scene where Esposito discovers that Morales had imprisoned Gomez by himself, might be imagined by Esposito in order to have the right ending to the story and to finally finish his book and get over it?
shareNope. There was no reason to believe it wasn't real. However, I suppose you could ask this same question for EVERY single movie.
shareI don't think he imagined that scene.
But the very last scene, when he goes to Irenes office could very well be in my opinion. Irenes usage of the phrase "This will be complicated" (something along these words) could be a hint for that. That repetition of the phrase Morales used would be something a writer could use for a novel.
yes, it was a hopeful ending. In real vs. reel life, he would not have had that opportunity. Her life was too entrenched for change (children with spouse, etc.)
shareNot for a love they'd been waiting their whole lives for. That messege was, to use your word, entrenched in the whole film. What Morales did for love, what Benjamin would do for love.
shareWhat Benjamin would do for love is one thing. Esposito was was an obsessive idealist for sure who was inspired by Morales's uncompromising fanatical idealism. But it wasn't up to Benjamin as it came down to Irene who had voiced enough reservation throughout the film to make it questionable. As she said, she had two children that she loved dearly. To possess the level of Benjamin's idealism after 25 years of the grind of daily life is obviously the rarest of traits, and for her to have this quality as well even rarer. So while not impossible, it just doesn't mesh with reality since this would only happen in the rarest and most unique of circumstances.
And not to deflate your bubbling idealism with the sharp pin of cynicism but even in those rarest of circumstances I think it's pretty safe to conclude it never works out since real life could never come close to matching the fantasies of obsessive idealists.
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Why would you think that? This isn't "The King of Comedy" where fantasies are mixed with reality...
shareI don't know why everyone's reacting so strongly to your comment. I think it's pretty clear that he possibly made up the ending for the book.
Perhaps people need to re-watch it. Until he "finds and visits" the husband the film is pretty much already wrapped up as it is. There is dialogue between him and Irene, that he wants to write a better ending.
Clearly the people stating your comment is ridiculous, weren't paying much attention to the film.
Koalas are telepathic. Plus, they control the weather.
Perhaps people need to re-watch it. Until he "finds and visits" the husband the film is pretty much already wrapped up as it is. There is dialogue between him and Liliana, that he wants to write a better ending.
There cannot be any dialogue between Benjamin and Liliana, as she is already dead when he first lays eyes on her. Perhaps nascentt wasn't paying much attention to the film? :)
shareWow, really? I am expected to remember character names months after watching the film? I just took the lead female name from imdb page, there's no need to be an ass about it.
Koalas are telepathic. Plus, they control the weather.
Intereting idea lildvl. People are dismissing that interpretation too quickly. It looked as though the victim's husband was going to be punished worse than the killer for the crime, by living an empty "life of nothing." So very likely, the poetic justice was just an optimistic coda in the novel. One must wonder where he would have found a deserted house complete with jail cell, and how this could not have been discovered for 25 years.
As a film-lover, this reminds me of the film "Atonement," where the sister of two doomed young lovers grew to become a novelist, who rewrote their story with a happy ending.
Sorry, easy. I thought it was kind of a vague allusion but I can see how it could spoil the twist. Fixed!
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Spot on, easypz. A well thought-out analysis, especially the bit about Benjamin's 'self-imposed bondage'.
shareExcellent post. Thank you.
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Interesting idea with the fantastical ending following the discussion about how it was left an average ending, but on balance I don't think there is any substance in that and I think I agree that it was more likely real. As mentioned, you may as well ask if the destruction of the Death Star was just a fantasy by Luke Skywalker.
shareI don't know if I agree with the 'imagined the whole thing' theory, but I found it almost unbelievable that any single person could keep another person imprisoned in a home made jail cell for 20 years. Gomez seemed like a crafty and resourceful person and I find it hard to believe that in 20 years he couldn't lure Morales close enough to beat the key out of him, or kill him or use the wiring in the light socket to set fire to the place or steal a spoon and slowly loosen the mortar or the place where the bars are bolted into the wall or pick the lock or begin screaming loudly when he heard someone pull into the driveway or a farmer walk by or SOMETHING. People with NOTHING TO DO all day can be pretty imaginative.
If I were keeping someone imprisoned like that I would be so worried that he'd get out that it would have driven me crazy. It would have been like imprisoning myself. I probably would have just killed the guy and been done with it. But I guess one of the points the movie was making was that some people can't move on.
No because the question of passion came up in flashback near the end, I think Esposito realised that that his passion for Irene would never die and he had to give in to it and after seeing how Morales was able to deal with his passion and love for his wife by fulfilling his obligation in making Gomez pay for his crime, Esposito realised he had to come clear to Irene and let her know his feeling.
shareI clearly think that the end is actually happening, if you watch during the movie, everytime Esposito wants to talk to Irene and says its important, she wants to close the door, I think she hopes that Esposito will clarify his feelings for her, and when she finds out that is not the nature of his visit, she leaves the door open. In the last scene the door is closed.
If I was God, would christians disregard the Bible if I said it was rubbish.
Original post: Please do us a favour and edit the thread title to something like "About the last scene...", It's a bit of a subtle spoiler for those who haven't yet seen the film.
Thanks a lot.
Tough nuggets. If you haven't seen it yet, WHY are you on imdb message boards? People thoroughly discuss every little plot point, and things WILL get spoiled for you if you read these boards before seeing a movie. If you want something that gives you just a taste of the plot, enough to decide whether you want to see it, but no spoilers, that's what Rotten Tomatoes is for.
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