For those who have seen it, did the ending feel a little off to you? Don't get me wrong, I loved the movie but it just seemed way to predictable for him to die at the end and surprising that he still had access to that storage building.
Also I would have expected some tears from someone at the end. Kat was sobbing but I didn't see a single tear.
Oh well, I guess I'm nitpicking. Anyway, feel free to use this thread for other spoiler-related topics.
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I thought everything about the movie was perfect. I almost never cry during movies (the rare exceptions being The Elephant Man and Born on the Fourth of July), but the ending made me cry. I usually hate Hollywood endings with an extreme passion, but I was yelling at my tv that I wanted Defendor to live. I thought it was perfect.
shareI expected him to be alive tho and thought its better than let him die.
I didn't have any emotion at all watching this film tho I agree that this is a very good one, for a long time.
Born on 4th July is a very touching film, thanks for bringing that up, and look at my username.
don't listen to critics. say no to rankings.
Tears? Defendor goes to one of his happy places - the Moon - waiting for his body to get better.
Later on in the movie he loses one of his wasps as Kat is writing on her typewriter. The only possible interpretation.
Another way of looking at it, is he goes out a hero, something he's never been before. Nobody is laughing at him now either, after everything that happened.
"Adults can be the worse."
And when his shrink brings her daughter to the shrine(?) you see that his story has really touched some people.
Incredibly impressed with this movie, loved that it's shown that Arthur saved his friend's child, and that's why they're still close friends.
Yes I thought that scene was absolutely germane to explain why he puts up with Arthur and go all out to help him. Otherwise its kind of hard at least for me to believe a guy he's met for only 5 years would act like a brother/family
share"The only possible interpretation" so the memorial at the end was for his get well party? No one went to the hospital where he was recovering from the gunshot wounds to the chest instead they went to the painted mural on the roof? No. That is far from the only possible interpretation. IMO (which I am able to admit is my opinion) Defendor died, Kat became "like Lois Lane" and the wasp in the room was to show that although Defendor had died the hope and courage that he inspired in others lived on.
share"Tears? Defendor goes to one of his happy places - the Moon - waiting for his body to get better.
Later on in the movie he loses one of his wasps as Kat is writing on her typewriter. The only possible interpretation."
Erm no, i'm pretty sure the wasp is suggested to be Defendor reincarnated.
When I originally watched it, I suspected, but didn't EXPECT it to end the way it did.
I think that the ending was in a way, poetic. Yes the hero was a simpleton. He grew up with nothing, to become nothing, to mean nothing. But in the end, he became something for the simple fact that he did what he thought was right. No matter the consequences, even be it death, he did what he believed was right.
That is the most honest, real, interpretation of what a hero is in my opinion. Doing what's right, even though the consequences might be dire, even though you might not receive any accolades, even though people might not appreciate it. Yet you do it regardless because it's right. That's a hero. A person who does what's right, knowing that people will be influenced is a martyr, which to me is an ulterior motive.
This isn't an original concept in movies, or even in real life, but I'll admit I got a little teary eyed at certain parts of this movie. I think Woody Harrelson did an awesome job at portraying this simple minded do-gooder. I thought this was a sweet and dramatic movie, with many comedic elements. In the end, I felt that he was honored properly, the people who couldn't tell him he was right because of social standards, could admit to themselves that he was indeed, a hero.
Sorry a bit long winded. I've had a few to drink.
To Terrencepatrix
I think you have just saved me a whole lot of typing. Well Done,, my thoughts exactly. A cracking film.
I daresay you shouldn't give up drinking, even if you're planning to. (just jesting ;) )
Excellent post terrencepatrix...
This is a bloody fine movie!
Friendly fire...isnt
I liked your thoughts on the ending.
shareActually I was semi-expecting a hollywood ending where he lives but I prefer how they chose to end it.
The montage at the end, especially the shot of the therapist and kid, came across as a bit hollywood-ish to me.
As for Kat, sure I can understand she's sad but I thought it was odd how they profess their love for each other at the end. That felt more out of character than anything as I felt their connection was more on the lines of close friends.
They might not have been expressing an erotic love, just friendship love.
shareI did not expect Defendor to be the movie that it was, especially after just having finished watching Zombieland (I have no idea why, I know the two films have nothing to do with each other, but I guess I've just come to expect things a little lighter from Woody Harrelson.)
While Defendor is certainly not a perfect film, and there were definitely points during the movie where I was disappointed with the "suspension of disbelief" factor (the deep cover cop with "training bullets", the surveillance van in which apparently no one has a gun, etc.), I still REALLY enjoyed the film and actually teared up at a few points throughout.
I was also really impressed with Woody's performance, he did a good job conveying the relative purity of the character.
And while I normally am a huge proponent of non-Hollywood films because often they don't tidy-up the ending, I found myself wishing that there was more of a Hollywood ending, because I didn't want to see Arthur die.
"Oh, I thought you wanted us to murder the children and harvest their organs for beer money"