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Why can't you just enjoy it for what it is? It's not even one of the worst superhero movies, sorry they changed your villain, but *beep* happens. Comic fans think anyone who likes this movies is an idiot, no you're the idiot for thinking that.

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And it's attitudes like that that enables crap like the new Ghostbusters movie.

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So you are saying that you knew "The Mandarin" really was a fake?

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That crap? I could write a better script. Besides that's different,in order to be like that this movie would have to pretend Stark never existed.

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I like the movie. I don't read the comics. I'm still pissed about the film's depiction of the Mandarin.

His early origins were actually pretty good, and I would have preferred they explore that, but chances are they didn't want to move focus away from Tony and to the Mandarin. In a post-AVENGERS story line the idea of alien power rings would have been less silly.

The One-Shoot ALL HAIL THE KING suggests there is a true Mandarin out there, but I very much doubt the MCU will go back to the Mandarin well anytime soon.


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So are you saying that you figured out the twist? Because NO one figured out the twist. It really hasn't been done before. Yes, the one bad guy we think is the head of it all really isn't the head of it all, but not to the point where the "original" bad guy turns out to be such a turd as Trevor really is.

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So are you saying that you figured out the twist? Because NO one figured out the twist. It really hasn't been done before. Yes, the one bad guy we think is the head of it all really isn't the head of it all, but not to the point where the "original" bad guy turns out to be such a turd as Trevor really is.

There's nothing in my post to suggest I did or didn't figure out the twist. I have no clue why you even brought that up. But since you did, even if Ben Kingsley had been the true Mandarin and there was no comedic Trevor twist, I still would have been disappointed. We would know little about the Mandarin, and rather than him being Chinese or sharing any of the characteristics and backstory of the original comic version (racist psychical appearance not included) they decided to continue their post-911 fear of the middle-east propaganda.


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The point is that NO ONE figured out the twist. Everyone thought he was the Mandarin and there would be some battle with him at the end. No one figured out he was a drug addict who wanted more drugs and was nothing but a pansy actor with no real power or influence.

If they really wanted to use the Mandarin, they would have done more with him. But, had they done more with him in the movie they made, there would have been a lot of questions. By leaving him a bit vague, we don't know exactly what his powers are - until we find out he has none.

post-911 fear of the middle-east propaganda.


I'm glad those were the last words you typed because I fell asleep after reading them.

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The depiction I wanted would have required an entirely different film. Killian is technically this film's true Mandarin. At least until that ALL HAIL THE KING decided to retcon that. Either to appease angry fans or they really didn't know how to end it.


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If it was to appease fans, then they sold out, they don't need only comic fans.

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If it was to appease fans, then they sold out, they don't need only comic fans.

There was probably a little white wash complaining too. Seeing is not even the fake Mandarin was Chinese. And don't tell me it was to avoid racial stereotyping. There have been plenty of Asian villains in films. Nobody said anything about the Fu Manchu mustache, long finger nails, or that weird suit he had in the original comics.

I think Jet Li would be a good choice for the real Mandarin. I imagine the real Mandarin is a lot like Jet's character in THE MUMMY: TOMB OF THE DRAGON EMPEROR. But like I said before, I doubt they'll have yet another Mandarin show up. If that IRON MAN 4 is made we'll probably get someone new.


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But but... John Byrne didn't like it... gasp... 







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gCBiJ3QJnk&feature=player_embedded

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But but... John Byrne didn't like it... gasp...



Which means a lot, considering that the man had great influence not only on Iron Man's character, but on the entire comic book industry in general.

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Do you remember me, honey? Do you remember how many discussions we had? You didn't answered me yet. Tell me, how can you trash Nolan's Batman for (supposed) unfaithfulness to the comics while you defend Iron Man 3, the movie which ruined one of Iron Man's best comic book story arcs and his most definitive enemy?

The point is that NO ONE figured out the twist. Everyone thought he was the Mandarin and there would be some battle with him at the end. No one figured out he was a drug addict who wanted more drugs and was nothing but a pansy actor with no real power or influence.


And? What does it change? The fact of the matter is, the Mandarin was ruined in Iron Man 3, so you can't defend that.

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Why can't you just enjoy it for what it is?


Because it is a dull, poorly written movie with lack of thematic integrity and good storytelling?

Comic fans think anyone who likes this movies is an idiot, no you're the idiot for thinking that.


No, we don't think that people who like this movie are idiots. We think that idiots are those who insult us, comic book fans, for not liking Iron Man 3 because it changed something from the comics, thus calling it a stupid reason to dislike the movie. Personally, I dislike lots of MCU movies, and unfaithfulness to the source material has nothing to do with that.

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Because it is a dull, poorly written movie with lack of thematic integrity and good storytelling?"

You say that like it's a fact for some reason, I don't know why you dislike MCU movies, but they are some of the best movies I've ever seen.

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I didn't say it was a fact. I've expressed my personal opinion on that movie. You were complaining about the comic book fans, calling them an idiots because of their opinion. It's the same thing.

I don't know why you dislike MCU movies, but they are some of the best movies I've ever seen.


Well, to each their own.

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Cause I don't see the big deal, and the MCU could do a lot of favors for something like fantastic four.

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