Becoming a master of Ninjitsu from reading a book? - Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2014) Discussion

[–] Btheatrical 10 years ago

...a giant talking rat flicking through a book on Ninjitsu is more ridiculous. If you can accept that, surely you can accept that rat mimicking fight moves from picture diagrams.

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[–] rsrebel10-417-585675 10 years ago

the mutagen in their blood gave them advanced learning ability and athleticsm
(i think)

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[–] budakhan79 10 years ago

Your argument is ridiculous. The transformative nature of the mutagen may not be totally and completely sound, but it is fiction and therefore very plausible in this TMNT world. Learning however is a universal notion. It is bound in science and isn't a part of the fiction of this movie. Becoming a ninjitsu master from a book is impossible and it is one of the many asinine mistakes the writers of this tripe made.

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[–] patrick2403 9 years ago

That's why I always prefered the 1987 Cartoon Splinter over the Feature Movie Splinter.

In the Cartoon Show Splinter used to be a human japanese Ninja Master named Hamato Yoshi who mutated into a rat by a chemical mutagen (because he was living in the sewers and interacted mostly with rats and therefore and had traces of rat DNA all over his bodies

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[–] Asteri-Atypical 9 years ago

In the Cartoon Show Splinter used to be a human japanese Ninja Master named Hamato Yoshi who mutated into a rat by a chemical mutagen

That was always the most reasonable - and the most interesting.

The 90s movie, where the rat was his pet, was a bit of a groaner.

Of course, in this movie, it was just stupid. At least in the 90s version the idea of a rat kicking and mimicking Ninjitsu was a bit absurdly humorous. Just picking up a book is stupid without the humor.

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[–] d_myerss 9 years ago

Not to mention that as ridiculous as the mimicking Rat is, we have the original comic to blame, not the actual movie. That was how the story was originally told so it gets a pass on faithfulness to the source material.

This picking up a book on Ninjutsu bit is not only ridiculous but also lazy because he just so happens to find a book with teachings on a fighting system that the Shredder, the boss behind the lab, is also a master of. And thats how they both come to share the same fighting style.

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[–] Asteri-Atypical 9 years ago

This picking up a book on Ninjutsu bit is not only ridiculous but also lazy because he just so happens to find a book with teachings on a fighting system that the Shredder, the boss behind the lab, is also a master of.

Indeed. The whole writing just seemed lazy, frankly. This was a particularly bad example. Of course it doesn't explain, at all, how Splinter ended up with a slightly Japanese accent, and how his style is so in keeping with our current stereotype of a martial arts master. At least when Splinter was a pet, that, too, explained that much.

Strange, too, how they moved the whole focus off of the prowess of the turtles as brilliant martial artists, to their physical prowess. In fact, they didn't even seem to be that great; they were just super-strong with bulletproof shells.

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[–] d_myerss 9 years ago

Agreed. Bullet proof super strong mutants vs gun wielding mercs. Whats the point? Was there any point in then even being Ninjas? And then Shredder had to have a mech suit in order to fight them... yet he had the suit prepared and built before knowing of their existence.

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[–] Asteri-Atypical 9 years ago

One problem I have with movies like this is how they take themselves WAY too seriously.

The original TMNT was always tongue-in-cheek and could poke fun at itself. Not this version.

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[–] CortneyAkana 9 years ago

In my opinion they weren't so much implying that he became a Ninjitsu master from that book but that he had mastered everything that book had to offer. And if you go back and take a closer look at that book you can see it doesn't look like the type of book you might find at your local Barnes&Noble.

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[–] TheFatDruidofNacyl 9 years ago

I think it would have made more sense if they learned Ninjutsu from 80's martial arts movies. Or learned to fight from a work out tape. At least they could see how the moves are done from start to finish. Still would be ridiculous but not as ridiculous.

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