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Major plot holes

posted 15 years ago by robborak
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I know it's a comedy not to be taken seriously but still some things bothered me.

After the guy on the snowmobile fell into the cave we see him climb out, then in another scene we see him in a cave again with a torch. Where did he find the torch and why did he go back to the cave if he struggled to climb out in the first place?

Didn't Hanna fall off the cliff with the other zombie, that's why I was surprised to see her get axed in the neck by accident.

How did she survive the fall?

And after the guy amputated his arm, and was bit again on the leg/crotch, why didn't he turn into a zombie then?

This movie could have been done much better, because the premise is pretty good.

[–] CaramelSquares 15 years ago

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Yes, and it did have it's funny moments. Here is my take on your questions...

1. The guy on the snowmobile made the torch with the use of a stick (probably form one laying around), a rag and gasoline from the from the snowmobile. They showed him wrapping the rag around the stick and then dipping it into the gas tank.

2. Yes she fell off, and supposedly the snow broke her fall and partially buried her. But then she dug herself out and smashed the other zombie's head with her foot while it stuck out of the snow and he was stuck.

3. There really was no indication that getting bitten would turn you into a Zombie, it's just something the characters were led to believe because that's how it happens in the movies.

At least that's how I saw it.

[–] enginenumbernine 15 years ago

Yeh thats what i was gonna say

[–] samuelbronkowitz 15 years ago

I concur with the both of you.

[–] Sofabutt 15 years ago

This movie was crud...

Anyone who has ever lived in snow (as these characters must have) knows that tracks can be seen a long time after new snow has fallen (excluding blizzard conditions). Apparently the characters in the movie are so dumb they can't track any of the zombies coming to or leaving any of the murder scenes.

[–] AlexEvensen 15 years ago

It sounds to me like you didn't see the movie entirely, like you missed out on some scenes.

She fell, survived, killed the zombie, got back to the others.

The torch was a branch with some cloth on it which he soaked in the fuel of the snowmobile, then went back in to see what was there.

He might have, but he might not, the guy who said that about the bite loved movies and might have thought that since you turn into a zombie if you're bitten by one in the movies, you might become a zombie in real life as well if bitten by one. Also, the movie ended shortly after, and it looked to me like he'd get killed just after the movie ended. If not, he might have turned eventually, impossible to know.

[–] paulo20 15 years ago

Here's a possible plot hole in spoiler text:

The twist was apparently that the ghouls just wanted the treasure they'd amassed during WW2. But if this is the case, why did they kill Sara and that old guy?

[–] hanfuzzy 15 years ago

Here's what may be hinted at:

They make it seem like Sara was attacked on her way to the cabin and never arrived, but later we find out (from her pack) that she had been to the cabin. Perhaps on her trek she found the cave (full of frozen Nazi bodies), took the treasure, and brought it to the cabin. Then the zombie curse was triggered, they tracked her down and she ran from the cabin.

Not sure about the other hiker, though, perhaps he just got caught in the crossfire of the awakened zombies.

This recent activation of the zombie curse by Sara would explain why the whole area had not already been discovered to be zombie-infested over the past 60 years. After all, it would have been damn hard to visit the cabin yearly, much less build it, if there were normally killer zombies all around.

[–] bite_me_loser_86 14 years ago

That is actually a good explanation.. that Sara found the underground cave where they kept their Nazi gold and brought it back to the cabin to hide it under the floor... then she later was attacked and chased out into the woods and killed. Would also explain why they kept her head in the cabin... haha, perhaps as a hostage.. 'you get your head back when we get our gold back'.

I was very confused to what happened with her. I mean, we could all figure out she probably was the girl who was murdered in the beginning, but then when her backpack showed up I was starting to wonder if maybe she had re-animated as a zombie and returned and dropped her backpack outside the cabin.

[–] FrightMeter 15 years ago

I wouldn't call the fact that the dudes didn't turn into a zombie after they were bitten a "plot hole." As someone mentioned, it is only because that is what happens in "movies" that people believe this. There was no indication of that here...the guy in the snowmobile was bitten and didn't turn.

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[–] andylib79 15 years ago

the biggest plot hole i noticed was that the zombies should have been frozen considering the location and that they are, um...dead. most of them were even buried under the snow.

also, maybe i missed something, but who was the zombie with the clean white ski gear on. it obviously didn't look like any kind of WWII uniform. even if he was someone that was killed by a recent zombie attack i would imagine his jacket to be pretty dirty and bloody, by the looks of his decomposed face it seems he had been out there a while.

[–] bing-57 15 years ago

> the zombies should have been frozen

Yeah, that's what bugged me more than anything else. These zombies are 60 years old and they seem amazingly limber. Plus, it seemed like all of their bodily functions still worked. They bled when cut and reacted to pain and sounds. One of them even talked.

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[–] Megaton_A 14 years ago

Yeah, but if you're trying to figure out the "How are they still alive and walking around?" part of a Zombie movie, then you probably shouldn't be watching zombie movies. I mean, I can understand being bothered that there was no back story to explain why there were Nazi Zombies.... but if you try and figure out the physiology of any zombie film they'll all fall apart fast.

[–] bing-57 14 years ago

> if you try and figure out the physiology of any zombie film they'll all fall apart fast.

Except that the basic physiology of a zombie has been established by 50 years of zombie movies. The brain doesn't die and still sends enough electricity to move the muscles. The brain and muscles are usually the only things that work. Other than that, a zombie is normal flesh and susceptible to normal damage and decay.

So, I could accept that 60-year old zombies could still shuffle around a bit, but I can't accept that they could bleed or run through the woods.

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[–] Samuel-Brooks 14 years ago

I think the reason the zombies bleed is because one of the quintessential parts of using a chainsaw as a weapon is that its supposed to make a hell of a mess. And if you just have a bunch of dry, cold bodies breaking apart, its less fun.

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[–] bite_me_loser_86 14 years ago

No, there really is no logic explanation to the physiology of the zombies. Yes, their brains must still serve some purpose since severing it is the only way to kill them. But muscles cannot function only with brain activity. Muscle cells need oxygen and glucose to function. That means to have a functioning body you must have functioning lungs and a functioning heart.
But as we have seen in many zombie movies, a stab or a shot wound in the heart won't do any damage whatsoever, nor to the lungs. The only part of the zombie that is subsceptible to fatal injury is the brain... so what gives? How can zombies move around?
There is no natural explanation.

In this movie the zombies were pretty different, because not only were they faster, smart enough to organize themselves, use weapons and followed a leader, but judging from how heavily they were bleeding, they seemed to have functioning hearts.. But it still seemed the only way to end them definitely was by causing injury to the brain.
Oh, well.. these things aren't meant to be figured out. Zombie movies are all about suspension of disbelief.

[–] bite_me_loser_86 14 years ago

also, maybe i missed something, but who was the zombie with the clean white ski gear on. it obviously didn't look like any kind of WWII uniform. even if he was someone that was killed by a recent zombie attack i would imagine his jacket to be pretty dirty and bloody, by the looks of his decomposed face it seems he had been out there a while.

Haha, yes you did miss something. I don't remember her name, but one of the girls was wearing that white coat before the zombies caught up with her, knocked her out and started feeding on her intestines. It was the blonde with the pigtails whose hair was chopped off when the zombies grabbed it through the window.
My guess he liked her outfit so much that after he finished eating her insides he decided to start wearing it.

[–] trag-1 12 years ago

Haha, yes you did miss something. I don't remember her name, but one of the girls was wearing that white coat before the zombies caught up with her, knocked her out and started feeding on her intestines. It was the blonde with the pigtails whose hair was chopped off when the zombies grabbed it through the window.
My guess he liked her outfit so much that after he finished eating her insides he decided to start wearing it.

No, it can't be her outfit, because she was blown up by a grenade. No holes from shrapnel.

[–] fishrockcarving 13 years ago

who was the zombie with the clean white ski gear on. it obviously didn't look like any kind of WWII uniform.

That is winter weather sniper camouflage. Not common, but it was in use in WW2. WW2 German military were pioneers of modern camouflage. I've seen a series of still photographs of an urban sniper POW being brought out of a building by the British troops who captured him. In his camouflage, he literally disappeared in some of the shots, except for his hands and face.

[–] unicorn-13 15 years ago

About the not-turning-to-a-zombie: The nazis became zombies because of a curse, not because of a virus.

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[–] NewDivide1701 14 years ago

I can only answer #4.

The whole bite thing from zombies may have come from the movie Night of the Living Dead, and even then the dead were not referred to as zombies. It was never confirmed, but the zombies may have been reanimated by radiation from a space probe from Venus.

And people died from the bites because the zombies, at least according to Ben, may have had all sorts of diseases feasting off of walking corpses. And the people die from infection of those diseases, and the radiation reanimated them.

And it may also explain why he didn't die from the bites. Any diseases may not have even infected the living dead because it was so bloody cold out.

[–] bite_me_loser_86 14 years ago

I'd like to add that when it comes to zombie bites and whether or not they are infectious, in most zombie movies it takes a while for the victim to start exhibiting symptoms and maybe even days before they die and re-animate. So I don't consider it a plothole that he didn't turn right away.. unless you are immediately mortally wounded and killed it will take some time before you turn.

Anyways, I agree with previous poster that we can't be sure they would have turned anyways, because these were NAZI zombie. It'd just be weird if a bunch of civilian zombies joined their army. Besides the zombies of this movie already broke so many other zombie rules so what difference does another rule make?

[–] kinsayder 12 years ago

They're non-Romero zombies so they don't have to play by the "we bite you, you join us" tag team rule.

[–] sean-cowan1 12 years ago

You're a troll.

In regards to the guy turning into a Zombie or not, these Zombies do not infect people with their bites, or blood. The guy with the snowmobile bit the neck out of a zombie and did not turn. Martin, the character who amputated his arm thought that it was a virus because that's what happens in movies. But really these Nazi Zombies are driven by a curse, which means they can bite people and they will not turn into one.