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A major problem with this movie........

posted 9 years ago by anirudhshiji
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Don't get me wrong I love this movie but I think the female characters in this movie were just tools for sexually evoking men. That is really sexist.

[–] Vulturesofculturegolf 9 years ago

That's more as a result of its 60's setting, when women were treated as objects. It's summed up best in the scene where Sebastian Shaw tells Emma Frost: "I was thinking, you are the most exquisite thing I've ever seen... And this needs more ice."
The look of disdain on Emma's face as Shaw builds her up with a compliment, only to knock her down by assuming a dominant role and reducing her to a servant is not portrayed as a good thing.

[–] anirudhshiji 9 years ago

That's true, but violent and sex are common in Matthew Vaughnn movies.

[–] john_stevensfiredragon 9 years ago

maybe so but was the actress who played moira really needed to strip down like that?

[–] obiwan400 9 years ago

To sneak into a strip club? I'm no expert on sneaking into strip clubs but I would say yes

[–] justanicknamed 9 years ago

She should have walked in wearing a burka and said that her mind should be enough to stimulate ANY man.

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[–] john_stevensfiredragon 9 years ago

Well, they could have easily changed the setting from a strip club to something else.

[–] justanicknamed 9 years ago

Why? It was the 1960's. "Powerful men" would have a glass or two of whiskey or hard liquor while doing business, and publicly treated women as less than worthy of respect. They were sex objects or they were mother's to the men's children.

They were meeting in a private "gentlemen's" club because they could control who would be there and it would be suspicious if a bunch of high-ranking military people were gathered in such a club.

It was like the Playboy clubs in the 1960's, where it was a "sophisticated" crowd where top-notch entertainers performed and men put on suits to go out for the evening, as opposed to going to the local tavern to have a few brews.

[–] hoodho 8 years ago

She should have walked in wearing a burka and said that her mind should be enough to stimulate ANY man

lmao i needed that laugh thankyou!

[–] j_mcmillan33 9 years ago

That's the 60s my friend. Also Moira and Mystique were far from that

[–] Danoded 9 years ago

**** off.

[–] Hemorrhage911 9 years ago

Tumblr trash.

[–] Son-of-WRA 9 years ago

As someone who was born in the Sixties, such scenes were normal. Understanding how society is these days, I can see why it would appear to be sexist. But even so, I found it harmless even though I know that will open me up to the "that's because you're a man" response.

Nobody forced anyone into doing anything for the sake of sexism. Those things (most things involving the Hellfire Club) happen in real life and in the movies without regard for how they may impress others. Sexism is real in certain ways but not all examples of it are harmful. I don't wish to embark on one of my lengthy dissertations about a subject, so suffice it to say sexy women are part of what makes the world go 'round.

"They say the ----ing smog is the ----ing reason why you have such beautiful ----ing sunsets"

[–] anirudhshiji 9 years ago

Watch Vaughn's Kick Ass. You'll know what I am talking about.

[–] Ithilfaen 8 years ago

I agree. For all the movie's obvious efforts to make men look like *beep* for being sexist to women (Xavier's womanizing, Shaw's treating Frost like a maid, and her taking it, the CIA guy telling FakeMcTaggert she's "going back to the typing pool"), they treated them basically like pretty decorations.

None of the female characters get the development that male characters do, and that's not saying much since the male characters barely get any.

Even Raven doesn't get much development beyond her obsession with her appearance that seem more based in vanity than in acceptance.

For every lie I unlearn I learn something new - Ani Difranco