Haven't watched all of it yet, but does anyone else suspect the PORNO photos that the husband views in the ATTIC may have something to do with the "lack of PASSION" that the wife complains about not having in their marriage ???
The KITCHEN counters were also pretty messy and makes one wonder if the rest of the house may also look the same way.
This article seems to have NAILED him down pretty well:
https://www.leisurebyte.com/scenes-from-a-marriage-episode-2-review/
He lives in a bubble where his wife’s sadness has never caught his eye. He is curious to know about Poli and how Mira started seeing him. When Mira tells Jon, “I am in love with someone”, Jon is unable to understand what exactly he is supposed to feel.
The bounds of repression have grasped him for so long, that he can’t understand Mira’s lack of feelings in their marriage or his self-destructive tendency of knowing the details of his wife’s affair. It is repression that makes him passive-aggressive at the beginning of episode two about the attic’s renovation and it is the same repression that stretches to the point that he is unable to understand Mira’s suffocation. All he wants to do is sit and talk, but clearly, he is never listening.
https://www.theringer.com/tv/2021/9/13/22670406/scenes-from-a-marriage-review-hbo-ingmar-bergman
Scenes From a Marriage struggles because its leads feel too close to Bergman’s, without new insight into contemporary commitment.
Partway through the premiere, Mira and Jonathan have dinner with their friends, a married couple played by Nicole Beharie and Corey Stoll. Upon hearing about the interview earlier that day, Stoll feigns annoyance, asking why the researcher wouldn’t want to hear about a more modern kind of marriage—like his interracial, open one. It’s a show of self-awareness as well as a fair point. Mira and Jonathan may have a hard time untangling their lives, but it’s far easier for the viewer at home to disengage from a struggle they’ve seen before.
Here's a HINT at what's coming next in Episode 3:
https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-reviews/scenes-from-a-marriage-review-1220306/
The third episode in particular is just remarkable in the way Mira and Jonathan’s conversation somehow takes us through every high and low they ever had together.share
That third episode was among the best hours of TV I’ve seen all year, and left me wondering if I had judged the whole endeavor too harshly to that point. But then the remaining two episodes brought a more familiar blend of moments that inspired awe
At various points, Jonathan or Mira will plead with the other to give things another try, insisting that the parts of their marriage that were good outweigh the parts where they’re literally wishing their partner dead. The experience of watching Scenes From a Marriage never gets that bleak ...
Is anyone else as confused about the TIME LINE as I am???
How much time has passed since she had the ABORTION in the last episode before this one?
Since she says she's been seeing her lover for several months now, could he have fathered her child???
Does that have something to do with the reason why she had the abortion?
She also said she'd have felt TRAPPED in the marriage by having another child, but perhaps she also felt that her lover wouldn't desire her anymore if she remained pregnant???
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Some REVIEWS like this one can be BRUTAL (but at least it also mentions an 8 month TIME FRAME since the ABORTION took place):
https://readysteadycut.com/2021/09/20/scenes-from-a-marriage-episode-2-recap-poli/
Scenes From a Marriage is all about the potential answers to complex questions. When’s the right time to end a marriage? Whose fault was its collapse? The question I kept returning to throughout “Poli” was what if none of that even matters?
Increasingly, I’m inclined to believe that Mira and Jonathan never loved each other in the first place, and if they did, only in some warped, self-serving way, like the other was the key to unlock the gates of idyllic middle-class nuclear family suburbia. Jonathan probably fantasized about being a shaggy academic with a rustic home office. And if he did, why should anyone be surprised that his marriage failed? His wife having left him for a younger Israeli start-up CEO is probably the most interesting thing that has ever happened to him.
What if Mira simply has no interest in her husband’s working environment because he’s a boring layabout who eats pasta like a dog? The guts of a house hanging through the wounds cleft into a marriage feels like a nice, arty way of putting things. But it’s all nonsense. When the washing up isn’t done in my house, it isn’t a metaphor for anything – it’s just a mess.
The titular Poli is a 29-year-old CEO whose start-up has been acquired by Mira’s firm. He’s single, and “not an intellectual”, which she says to Jonathan in a sort of apologetic way, as though if he was a bookworm her husband might approve of her sleeping with him behind his back for months.
Mira’s adamant about loving Poli, which is probably just what she has to tell herself to justify abandoning her infant daughter to live with him halfway across the world. Mira tries to rationalize this by assuring Jonathan she’ll support him financially; that she’s not leaving Ava, she’s leaving him, though without paying much mind to the fact that when Ava wakes up she won’t be there either way.
At first, all Jonathan seems concerned about is why Mira’s in such a rush. Can’t they wait a day, or a week, or a fortnight? Can’t they talk about this? Frankly, after just two hours, I’ve had more than enough of these two talking, so I understand why Mira doesn’t like the idea. But you can see his point. Even in film and TV, this isn’t how relationships work. You can tell Mira has rehearsed her speech, her excuses, her justifications. You can tell she has been waiting to tell Jonathan that she has been considering leaving for eight months and had the abortion because she was terrified of the idea that another child would keep her tethered to him. You can tell she anticipated how he’d respond; that he’d tell her she was pathetic and spoiled. But Jonathan is too boring to even give her the satisfaction of being right about that. Instead, he just wants mundane facts of what Poli looks like, how they met, and how their relationship began. Mira wants to spare him the grisly details, which is weird given how eager she was to dispense various other body blows, but Jonathan is adamant. His response to figuring out that their own sex life started back up right after her fling began is pathetic.
Increasingly, I’m inclined to believe that Mira and Jonathan never loved each other in the first place, and if they did, only in some warped, self-serving way
Here's a link to a SUMMARY of the ORIGINAL show by BERGMAN.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scenes_from_a_Marriage
Looks like the NEW SHOW is sticking pretty close to the Old story (except for the NEW FEMALE character having traded places with the previous MALE character ... who was the one to leave the wife for another woman in the other story).
Honey do you just come here to have conversations with yourself? HBO called. They appreciate your hyping of their shows on fora like Moviechat.
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