* The father was annoying. He acted so childish & was always mugging for the camera. Maybe I'm unique, but my parents didn't dress up in costumes & play preted, lol. Good actor, but unlikable character. * The kids were convincing psychotics - not talking to anyone but each other (in their secret language), not showing emotion, displaying antisocial behavior (smashing dishes on floor during Thanksgiving prayers), biting each other & school kid, abusing/mutilating animals, etc. * How did the kids O.D. their parents on the Rx-drugs - they showed food on the stove & the kitchen table, but I didn't see the parents eat anything. * It wasn't realistic that the kids were strong enough to drag their parents bodies around. * The parents were quick to "disown" their kids - not at the end (when the kids tried to kill them), but when they were expelled from school for biting that boy & when they later tried to kill/eat the boy. I know the kids are monsters but aren't parents usually more protective than that? * I liked the cinematography of the film with the amateur video / home movie approach (duh!). It separates it from other horror movies & had a different quality than similar films like "Cloverfield". * Does anyone know if a psychiatrist can legally diagnose their own child with a mental illness & prescribe them medicine. * The mother was cute.
Awesome comments! I'd like to chime in with a few responses:
David (the father) has severe mental issues and has relied heavily on alcohol to diminish the effects of a traumatic childhood. He lives vicariously through the idealistic image he has of what being a child is, and subsequently what being a good father is about. He regresses and thus the overly exerted attempts at play and attention seeking.
The scene in the attic with Emily always scares the living hell out of me for some reason.
The pills were fed in a soup that was shown in a quick montage at night while the parents were tied down.
I was on the fence about the parents resolving to remove Jack and Emily however we learn that the kids have had social issues in the past and thus why they moved. It is never said specifically what they did but the audience is left to assume the worst. At some point they admit defeat and realize the kids can not be helped through conventional methods.
No legally a psychiatrist can not diagnose their own children as it is a direct conflict of interest. However the mother is incredibly distraught over her misbehaving children and has convinced herself no one can help her children but herself. Between the father's regression and her hubris it is no wonder these children were left to dissolve into monsters.
I can see that most of your questions were answered, but I had a question myself... after the cat was crucified, why not try to rehome the dog? I'd be instantly worried about it.
As for the parents being protective, there was the cat incident, the biting themselves, biting the other kid just seemed like a final straw after all the weird crap.
------------------------------------------ "Our lives are one masque ball." ~ Gaston Leroux
By the time the father stumbled upon the dog's head in the forest, how could he have actually been surprised to find that?
The goldfish are dead and the boy has them in a sandwich, ok, that's weird. But who knows what actually happened?
The girl killed the frog in the vise right in front of the father. Now it's getting kind of serious, they're deliberately killing creatures.
They killed their pet cat and crucified it on the wall. You *beep* idiots, give the dog away to a friend or family member, and actually do something about your f^cked up kids instead of running around with the camera trying to act like you're a normal family.
Yeah. I think the parents were just trying to suppress what they were really thinking about their kids. They didn't want to think they were psychotic or insane. No one wants to think that, but when things got too out of control, they just blew a fuse and had had enough.
The mother was cute! And whats funny is she looks like a relative of my ex boyfriends and my ex boyfriends mom had a relative that is a psychologist. xD
But yeah, the parents obviously were in extreme mental distress. The dad obviously had plenty of issues of his own. I'm not for or against the home movie approach, but I feel this could of been executed well as a traditional film, and what would of set it apart was the rather accurate portrayal of the illness.
I'm glad someone else noted that the kids were relatively realistically portraying being totally crazy.
Also strength is deceptive. When My brother was 8 he could lift my mom off the ground for 2 seconds. Also he's always been stronger than me which is another thing I note people say in horror movies about how x is older than y so should be stronger.
My last comment would be that people often don't know much about things, then bash a lot of horror movies for being convincing.
I'm not 100% positive, but I don't think Doctors are allowed to diagnose and/or prescribe medications for their own children.
And even if they could, you wouldn't think that the parent would leave it up to the PSYCHOTIC CHILD to take them unsupervised! She even says, and I'm paraphrasing, "Don't take more than one at a time or you will go into a conscious coma." I mean, are you kidding?!
Out of the many unbelievable aspects of this movie, that's on the top of my list.
The kids were so cruel I almost wished that they were possessed instead of just plain cruel(I watched this movie thinking they were not possessed but just sociopaths). The parents were corny but they seemed to bend over backwards for their kids and gave them every chance. Its not like they were abusive to lead the kids to become psychotic. Thats what was so sad. Reminds me of Rhoda from The Bad Seed. Watch that movie and you will see what I mean.
This movie terrified me because when I was a kid I had an...incident, let us say, with a boy who was just like Jack. To this day I remember him. I was a 4th grader, he was a year older but had been kept back a year so he was considerably taller. Everyone was terrified of him. He did not speak. At times he would grin at his victim-of-the-week and it never ceased to send a chill down my spine. Already he had been expelled from many a school because no one could quite handle him. We were so afraid of him that no one would ever approach him alone each kid only spent a few days in the desk next to his, we had to rotate because those poor kids who sat next to him were bound to get attacked. One day he stole a friend of mine's metal pencil box. My friend was too scared to speak to him directly so he asked me to tag along...which I did although I too was afraid. We asked him to give the box back. He looked at the box, looked at us, looked at the box again and then smashed it on my friend's head with such strength that it was completely crumpled and the screws actually fell out. My friend nearly collapsed.
For some reason the school protected him because he was troubled and apparently we all had to put up with him. Until the incident with me happened. It went like this: I was scheduled to sit for a week next to him in class and all my begging did nothing to change it. We sat on the very first row. I was called to the blackboard and so was he (why is beyond me, he never paid any attention to class at all). So I was standing in front of class while the teacher wrote something on the blackboard when it happened. He lifted a leg and locked it around my neck. Then he began to squeeze. To this day I believe he was trying to choke me. I couldn't breathe, his legs was a vice that kept getting tighter until I began to see black spots all over and started to lose consciousness.
The teacher just stared in sheer horror. But the boy...smiled. Through it all, as he squeezed my neck, he looked at me and smiled happily. He was having fun. I really thought I was going to die, somehow I managed to kick the leg he was standing on and sent him falling.
The teacher grabbed him by the hand and that was the last we ever saw of him. He was immediately expelled. Later we found out that he apparently had tried to drown his baby sister at some point.
Every now and then I wonder what has happened to him and I suspect he is locked away. I also think the reason why he used his leg to strangle me instead of his hands was because he was used to straightjackets and got used to using his legs.
Had I been a bit shorter and alone, I have no doubt he could have killed me. He obviously wanted to. The smile still gives me nightmares.
Yes. I'm a teacher and I once had a student like this. He was five years old. He bonded with me for some reason and was well-behaved in my class, but otherwise he was cruel and sadistic. He was highly intelligent and would plan out his attacks when teachers weren't looking. He stabbed other children with pencils and scissors, tried to sexually molest them, and one time pushed a little girl down and repeatedly kicked her in the face, knocking her teeth out. He was expelled after that last incident. The most chilling thing about his behavior was how happy and gleeful he was immediately after hurting someone. He was proud of his violent assaults in the way other children are proud of their drawings or good grades.
I often wonder about what happened to him. His parents were in deep denial and insisted there was nothing wrong with him - and they were mental health workers! I really hope he got treatment at some point, because I shudder to imagine a grown-up version of that child walking the earth.