Well that's funny. I put up specific reasons as to why it is correct that are based on real mathematics, but your response was completely devoid of any mathematics, just a bit of an insult.
Here is your basic maths:
These are the columns.
ABC,DEF
000,000
A= Hundred thousands
B = Ten thousands
C = Thousands
D = Hundreds
E = Tens
F = Ones
0-9 = less than 10.
Adding one to the next column over indicates increasing to a new series of numbers (ie 10-19, then 20-29).
These are basic maths.
They are correct.
Your reasoning however states that because there was no 0 year, the first millennium started on the year 1, therefore subsequent millenniums also start from 1. This is incorrect for basic maths, but does follow AN accepted pattern used by many. However, that does not mean that decades also follow the same pattern.
1960 belongs to the set of the 60's, not the 50's. It should not take a lengthy and detailed explanation to show you that.
If I was 30 years old and I said to someone I was in my twenties, they would call me asinine. Likewise, if I was born in 1980 and I said to someone I was born in the seventies, people would think I had been drinking too much special koolaid.
You are misinterpreting the difference between an ORDINAL number and a CARDINAL number. When we refer to the 21st Century, we are using an ORDINAL. When we refer to the '60's, we are using a CARDINAL to indicate the number series.
The 21st century is counted from a starting point of 1, therefore the century begins in 2001. However, the 2000's started in 2000, just as the 1990's started in 1990.
This concept is confused by many people, especially when talking about the 'new millennium' and the beginning of the 21st century.
While it is technically correct for the ordinal counting of centuries, it is debatable with the use of millenniums because the millenniums are not being referred to as either ordinal or cardinal. Simple that it is the beginning of a new set. If you wish to set the beginning of a millennium according to basic maths, you can start from 0 (as I choose to do) or you can start from 1 (as some choose to do).
While it is true that there was no 0 year, there IS a year 1000 and there IS a year 2000. So the decision about when to start a NEW millennium lies with the person speaking.
On the other hand, decades do not follow the same rule. It is most sensible to use a decade to include all the numbers within a set of 10, where the tens column indicates the included numbers. This is most sensible with 'basic maths' and is most commonly used and accepted.
If you would like to do more research, check it out here:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=decade+wikipedia
and
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ordinal
So wrong it hurts. Oh yeah, I'm hurting real bad. Maybe I'll go off and have a little cry now.
Dumbass.
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weresmurf
12 years ago
The fact that there is a year 1000,2000 or 3000 is completely devoid of what you're vainly trying to prove.
What the original comment was, before you...really bastardised and subverted reality, is that each century finished on a 0 year, and it does, and starts on a 1.
20th Century finished with 2000 and 21st century started with 2001. Now, you can deny this all you want, but it's how it is. It's reality. It's how it's been done since... well... time and dates have been taken down?
Have all the badly sorted equations you want, and believe me they are bad, I don't need to justify why, but they are. But again, yes, you're wrong.
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eschelar
12 years ago
So apparently your learning problems are not limited to math, you also have trouble with reading. My original comment to you was related to this little nugget of error: "2010 is part of the decade that started in 2001. Decades go from 1 - 10, not 0 - 9, so Jack and Jill is actually the worst film of this CURRENT decade, which is still very young."
Decades can start at any point and end at any point when you are referring to a period of time as 'A decade', but in this case, the original poster was referring do "The decade". This indicates the use of a commonly accepted definition of a decade. You say it goes from 1-10, but I disagree. So does Wikipedia.
#1 - the original comment we are talking about is the name of this thread - worst movie of 2010... if not the decade. He is not talking about a century, he is talking about a decade.
#2 - comments I made about a year 1000 or 2000 are related to discussion of milleniums, which is directly related to the time when popular knowledge became aware of the curiosity that the 21st century began in 2001, not 2000.
#3 - the word 'devoid' doesn't mean what you think it means
#4 - The 20th Century finished with 2000 and the next century started in 2001. This is specifically what I stated in my post. I did not deny it anywhere. In fact, I explained the way that works and the reason that it works that way - specifically because we are talking about ORDINAL numbers, which begin a series at a set starting point (in this case at 1). This does not apply to commonly accepted 'decades' as I pointed out. Commonly accepted decades typically run from 0-9. See the link to the wikipedia article. Decades do not follow the same pattern as ordinal centuries because they are not ordinal, they are referring to the SET of numbers.
#5 - Badly sorted equations? give me a break man. If you want to tell me that I mislabeled the columns, then tell me how I got it wrong. The ones column is the ones column. That's what it shows and it is correct.
I feel like a 3 year old is trying to teach me about math and explain to me why 2+2 = 5 and 5+5 = 11.
I'd sure like to see some actual facts next time.
I assure you, I'm not wrong here. And I have shown you why.
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benmasta
12 years ago
lol i gotta say that its pretty hilarious that a conversation about kick ass being the worst of the decade degraded into an argument about labeling dates.
whew, only on the internet.
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eschelar
12 years ago
Even weirder - the original commenter changed accounts several times, although always taking the same argument.
Nothing like a good row over nonsense that matters to nobody. :)
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