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Grandpa...(spoilers)

posted 14 years ago by jram210-1
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In the end, Urban calls Willis grandpa. Was this in reference to Willis being old, or was this because the two found out more about eachother during the series of events throughout the movie? Except for their car fight scene early on, it never seemed like Willis was trying to kill Urban, just guide him along. Plus, throughout the film, everything about them matches eachother: from their ideas of right and wrong all the way down to their fighting style. Just wondering what others thought. Maybe I'm over analyzing this.

[–] skippypom12 14 years ago

Cooper called him grandpa during the fight scene in his office and yes, it would be in reference to Frank being retired.

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[–] martin_66 14 years ago

You are over analysing this. He called him Grandpa because he is older, and retired.

[–] wrlord2001 14 years ago

Yes! You've figured it out! They're actually related!

I swear, the movie-going public used to be smarter...

[–] sheeleyb 14 years ago

No, they weren't smarter. They just couldn't voice their thoughts back in the heyday due to lack of internet.

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[–] skippypom12 14 years ago

Um, wrong thread maybe??
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[–] sheeleyb 14 years ago

> I swear, the movie-going public used to be smarter...

>> No, they weren't smarter. They just couldn't voice their thoughts back in the heyday due to lack of internet.

Nope. Right thread. Although how his post is formatted I can see how the line looks like it could be a sig.

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[–] normadamous 13 years ago

but the real kicker comes when Sarah and Frank discover they're daughter and father....

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[–] i8jaffas 14 years ago

I would say 'old' because he said it in the fight scene in the office and then again at the end.

If Cooper hadn't said it first at that point then it could be explained in relation to the fact that his trainer (Cordeski) was trained by Frank Moses which would make Moses his "grandpa" in that respects.

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[–] greatdwarf 14 years ago

Are they related?
This is never specifically confirmed, but is hinted at more often than just the 'Grandpa' comments from Cooper.
When Moses' file is first given to Cooper, his superior asks him very pointedly, "Do you have a problem with this?" Cooper hesitates for a good 5 seconds, time not to be wasted in a film without a reason, before saying 'No'.

Cooper opens Moses' file in the 'room that doesn't exist', and finds out that Moses was Black Ops, not an analyst as he'd always been told, and looks far too surprised, considering that by this time, he already knew that an 'analyst' got away from a full squad at his home, leaving few survivors.

I'm sure I could think of more, but it's been a while since I watched it last.

[–] skippypom12 14 years ago

No, they're not related. I think you are reading way too much into it all.

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[–] LightningLad 13 years ago

Luke, I am your grandfather.

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[–] InfantryE4 13 years ago

Most likely the age difference. I'm a cop, not the oldest in my department but one of the most experienced and one of the youngest(my sons age) refers to me as a grandpa and I refer to him as junior.After this movie came out we al got a big laugh out of it.

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