WHY ARE U GIVING THOSE ROLES TO NON ASIANS TELL ME U RACIST IGNORANTS PUNKS
shareAgreed. These roles could have help create Asian stars. Instead of white washing every role they could have had. It keeps on happening.
shareThe movie is set in America, isn't it? Why would they use an Asian cast? Whites make up 63% of the United State's population, while Asians make up 4.7%. Now, knowing these facts, which makes more sense? Not only that but I don't think the race made any difference of the person getting casted. I'm sure the actors who get casted (white or black or Asian or whatever race they are) are casted because they think they're good enough for the role, and if you think otherwise, you are the racist one.
I'm really sick of all this PC crap, thinking every cast should be "diverse" just for the sake of racial diversity, and not for any other reason. Would you get angry if, let's say a Middle Eastern country, adapted an American film and used Middle Eastern cast? Should South Korean and Japanese films and TV series have white cast and not Asian cast so they can be diverse, otherwise they're racist? Last time I checked, the majority of Japan's population was Asian, therefore the majority of actors who get casted are Asian.
Now stop whining over pointless bullcrap, because anyone who sees racism, or sexism, or homophobia that isn't there is a nitpicking little idiot.
Hey there are alot of Asians Americans in AMERICA (good people) U JACKASS U NOT HUMAN YOU RACIST AS WELL?
shareway to be engage in a meaningful discussion. Instead, you reply with a micro/marco aggression. America is doomed if people can't have a conversation. Just curious, how old are you? Guessing you're probably under 25? Am I right?
shareHey there are alot of Asians Americans in AMERICA (good people) U JACKASS U NOT HUMAN YOU RACIST AS WELL?
shareyou miss the point my friend..
this movie is based on a JAPANESE MANGA....... about asian characters...JAPANESE PEOPLE.... people are family with it based on those characters....
so they are casting white people in roles that are based on asian characters do you not get the point loool
No, you miss the point of this movie being made. It's an AMERICAN remake, set in AMERICA, intended for AMERICAN audience. There's already a Japanese live-action version with a Japanese cast. You're more than welcome to avoid watching this remake if the race of the cast bothers you that much, which is pretty racist.
shareIt's an American remake while still using Japanese names and Japanese culture.
shareYeah that's the weird thing about it. If it was just an American remake set in America with American characters there should be no issue but the characters still have Japanese names.
I assume they'll change them and all will be okay.
You write "American" as if "American" means "white". It doesn't. There are people known as "Asian Americans". There are no excuses to whitewash.
shareyes and the japanese people who made it also made a japanese movie with japanese people playing the japanese characters.
now they are making it americanized because they are making it in america. stop complaining. if you don't like it, watch the japanese live action.
Asian Americans should still be cast in an americanized movie of death note
I'm gonna show you something beautiful everyone screaming for mercy
The movie is set in America, isn't it? Why would they use an Asian cast? Whites make up 63% of the United State's population, while Asians make up 4.7%.
1. No idea what Ghost in the Shell is, but Scarlet Johansson is white. Judaism is a religion.
2. I never implied they shouldn't cast a minority, but specifically looking for minorities to play the roles is moronic and racist. If an Asian got the part because they're an actual good fit and not because of their race then good for them. But god forbid a white person gets the role in an industry that has a white majority.
What's with everyone complaining about whites getting roles. Are they jealous of whites or something? I'm not white, I'm an Arab guy and it doesn't bother me one bit.
We should be mad at Bollywood. Their films almost always consist of Indians, can you believe that?! And them damn Japanese people with their Japanese majority cast. SMH. They need some political correctness and diversity!
1. No idea what Ghost in the Shell is,
but Scarlet Johansson is white. Judaism is a religion.
I never implied they shouldn't cast a minority, but specifically looking for minorities to play the roles is moronic and racist
What's with everyone complaining about whites getting roles.
We should be mad at Bollywood. Their films almost always consist of Indians, can you believe that?!
I honestly have no idea Ghost in the Shell is. I just googled it and it looks like an anime. I'm not an expert in anime. Death Note is one of the few animes I've seen.
Judaism is a religion, not a race. Is Christianity a race? Is Islam a race? Have you looked at the Jewish state of world (Israel) and saw how many Jewish people of different races (European whites, Berbers, Persians, etc..) live there?
But specifically looking for whites to play nonwhite roles is not?
I honestly have no idea Ghost in the Shell is
Judaism is a religion, not a race
Have you looked at the Jewish state of world (Israel) and saw how many Jewish people of different races
Like I mentioned before, it's an American remake
Therefore, it's not a non-white role
When white comic book characters get casted as a different race do you complain?
Because you're racist and that's the bottom line
I still find that hard to believe.
This is now the second time I am telling you this:
"Jewish" is also an ethnicity. There are Jews that classify themselves as ethnically Jewish who do not practice Judaism.
How are whites hurt by a nonwhite actor playing a previously white character especially when most of the time it is a supporting character and not the main character?
This coming from the guy that thinks it's racist to cast a nonwhite American to play a non-white character but not for a white actor who has plenty of options to choose from to accept a whitewashed role of a nonwhite character which takes away one of the very few opportunities nonwhites have as main characters in a major American production.
Oh okay. So I guess there can be Jewish Christians
How are non-whites hurt by a white actor playing a previously non-white character?
Show me where I said it's racist to cast a non-white person
I said it is racist if they're intentionally going for a non-white
You said America is multi-ethnic country
so there's no specific race to be set for the role if it's set in America.
And is that how it hurts non-whites? Well, too bad
you're racist for noticing the race of the cast in the first place.
anti-white BS
Whites are the minority of the world
Except that American movies (including THIS ONE) constantly go for whites only and reject non-whites just because they're non-white. So that is perfectly right and ok, but someone searching for a non-white actor to play a non-white character is somehow racist?
And so Governor Devlin, because even the cost of freedom can be too high, I REFUSE your pardon!
Are you *beep* stupid? There are ASIAN AMERICANS you know! Or does American = white and that's it
shareI think it would've been cool if they'd set it in America but cast the Yagami family as Japanese-American. I don't know if they could've listed the entire taskforce as such, but Misa could've at least been dubbed part Japanese. (Isn't she half American half Japanese in the managa or am I remembering wrong?) L could still be British (I'm paraphrasing), and the name Kira could still originate from Japan.
shareSo at the end of the day, would I like to have seen Asian actors in the roles? Yes, of course. But more than Asian actors, I'd like to see a good Death Note movie... What if the casting director did audition people of all races? and what if the white guy won out? It's racist to assume that just because the character is Japanese does not automatically mean a Japanese actor is the best person to portray him. Skill should be a major factor as well. I'll use an example from a different franchise.
In the James Bond franchise, the character of Felix Lighter was always white... until Casino Royale. And at the time there was some small controversy, but in the end it didn't matter because Jeffery Wright did so well with the part. Now, Idris Elba is one of the actors that people say would make a good Bond... but you still have those on the other side demanding that a white character be played by a white man. For argument's sake, let's say the final choice was between Jim Varney (RIP) and Idris Elba... would you still choose Varney because "the character is supposed to be white!!!"? Obviously not.
What if the casting director did audition people of all races? and what if the white guy won out?
It's racist to assume that just because the character is Japanese does not automatically mean a Japanese actor is the best person to portray him.
In the James Bond franchise, the character of Felix Lighter was always white... until Casino Royale.
And at the time there was some small controversy, but in the end it didn't matter because Jeffery Wright did so well with the part.
Now, Idris Elba is one of the actors that people say would make a good Bond... but you still have those on the other side demanding that a white character be played by a white man. For argument's sake, let's say the final choice was between Jim Varney (RIP) and Idris Elba... would you still choose Varney because "the character is supposed to be white!!!"? Obviously not.
This thread is packing a lot of heat.
OP: I think you misunderstood this adaptation.
It's a American Adaptation. So expect a lot of changes from the Manga.
Think of 'The Departed', a adaptation of the Chinese movie 'Infernal Affairs'.
To further change this adaption, I hope they change the character names too, it would sound so odd to see a american with a Japanese name.
Death Note still popular today? I swear people are now into other stuff by now.
On another note, any anime turning into a live action movie, is never that good. Example, Attack on Titan. I cringed so hard of how horrible it was. sucks for those who paid to see it. I still reckon Hollywood should've made it if they had a huge budget.
It's a American Adaptation.
Think of 'The Departed', a adaptation of the Chinese movie 'Infernal Affairs'.
On another note, any anime turning into a live action movie, is never that good. Example, Attack on Titan.
why there is no Asian Americans playing the leading role explain idiots? it's just white Americans are getting it. It's racist and discrimination you dumb fools
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After reading these crybaby posts on here about casting white actors I must conclude none of you have actually watched the Deathnote anime. Light and Misa are very clearly white Caucasians in the anime along with most of the characters. If you got a problem with that then go take it up with the Japanese animators lol
shareAre u stupid? Light Yagami and Misa Amane are both Japanese not white Caucasians. They were born in Japan. Do your research properly you stupid brainwash semen.
shareI assume if you feel this way about a film company being racist for casting majority ethnicity within said country, then you would also have a problem with the live action Japanese Death Note's production as well, considering they Asian-Washed generally every white prominent character in the Manga/Anime series. And you know what? They did it for the exact same reason people in this thread are complaining about.
Most of the authority figures, especially in the second half of the series are white characters. The entire Special Provision for Kira are white including Near, and Mello. Even L is assumed majority white ethnicity. Even the creator was uncertain about his ethnicity. Personally, I think he's European but the creator copped out for his Japanese audience. Here's a quote from the creator regarding L's ethnicity:
When asked about L's ethnicity, creator of the series Tsugumi Ohba responded, ">>I think of him<< as a quarter Japanese, a quarter English, a quarter Russian, a quarter French or Italian, like that." Ohba said that L is the most intelligent character in the entire Death Note series because "the plot requires it." He added that he personally views L as "slightly evil."
While I think that race plays a prominent important tone to the overall message and theme to the story, that L is the foreign entity invading Light's personal space and god complexity, which is set in stone by Japanese history of isolation and feeling alone, the cast overall doesn't apparently matter because the Japanese production obviously didn't feel this was an important factor either when considering the audience.
The difference between Japan and America is Japan is 99 percent Japanse and America is not,there are different races so there is no reason the leads can't be played by Asian American Actors,the white characters can be played by white actors .
As for L,well there are Eurasian actors or somebody that is 100 percent Asian,I have seen some Asian cosplayers that look exactly like L
Class is Pain 101. Your instructor is Casey Jones
So it's exactly for the same reason I stated. Population, demographics and audience. So you COULD use the number of the entire Asian population in America which sits roughly around 5% of the entire population. But we're not talking about every Asian or any Asian being casted. We're talking about every Japanese being casted, which is roughly 1.3 million or .08% of the US population. When we factor in how many of them are Actors, or full time Actors, who have bankable status and more, your chances and odds of contributions, support and domestic marketing grow smaller and smaller. Therefore, there is a perfectly good reason for the US to NOT cast a Japanese actor as the role for Light. Hollywood is a business before it's an Art. Don't forget that. But allow me to elaborate this further using the actual plot of the Manga/Anime.
Light is Japanese. This is not questionable. And personally, I prefer it this way...well...I prefer it based on the original plot and story's setting. In Japan. Where the population of Japan is 99%....where in all likely, given the chances and odds of a random person finding the Death Note, a Japanese person getting their hands on it, is very un-likely in the US. In America, it would be highly unlikely, like statistically amazing for a Japanese American to get their hands on the Death Note, especially depending on what city they set it in. Of course it would make for a decent "Improbably unlikely Japanese American finds the Death Note" kind of plot to throw in more drama. Ryuk even uses the trait of Luck as the sole reason for Light to have found the book in the first place, and that he's the only one who could use it as effectively as he did, and that it was sheer chance that it landed near him. Sure I could see that also, but most people won't, and them being Japanese, really doesn't enhance this, especially when you also factor in that the majority of people seeing the movie and even fans of the original, don't really pay attention to this level of symbolism that exists within Death Note.
As for L,well there are Eurasian actors or somebody that is 100 percent Asian,I have seen some Asian cosplayers that look exactly like L
We're talking about every Japanese being casted, which is roughly 1.3 million or .08% of the US population. When we factor in how many of them are Actors, or full time Actors, who have bankable status and more, your chances and odds of contributions, support and domestic marketing grow smaller and smaller. Therefore, there is a perfectly good reason for the US to NOT cast a Japanese actor as the role for Light. Hollywood is a business before it's an Art. Don't forget that. But allow me to elaborate this further using the actual plot of the Manga/Anime.
Light is Japanese. This is not questionable. And personally, I prefer it this way...well...I prefer it based on the original plot and story's setting. In Japan. Where the population of Japan is 99%....where in all likely, given the chances and odds of a random person finding the Death Note, a Japanese person getting their hands on it, is very un-likely in the US. In America, it would be highly unlikely, like statistically amazing for a Japanese American to get their hands on the Death Note, especially depending on what city they set it in. Of course it would make for a decent "Improbably unlikely Japanese American finds the Death Note" kind of plot to throw in more drama. Ryuk even uses the trait of Luck as the sole reason for Light to have found the book in the first place, and that he's the only one who could use it as effectively as he did, and that it was sheer chance that it landed near him. Sure I could see that also, but most people won't, and them being Japanese, really doesn't enhance this, especially when you also factor in that the majority of people seeing the movie and even fans of the original, don't really pay attention to this level of symbolism that exists within Death Note.
L could very well be Eurasian. I personally disgree, I just think he's British, or Italian, but i'd settle for Eurasian. But now we're just getting into even harder territories by trying to find a Eurasian Actor.
L could very well be Eurasian. I personally disgree, I just think he's British, or Italian, but i'd settle for Eurasian. But now we're just getting into even harder territories by trying to find a Eurasian Actor.
L should not at all be played by a 100% Japanese actor. I disagree with that completely and it's one of the reasons I disliked the Japanese produced live action Death Note. They can't even be consistent with their casting and completely mis-casted half the characters.
Whether or not a certain race cosplayer looks like an Animated characters appearance is irrelevant. Anime style is ambiguous and usually is unrealistic in relation to proportional facial features. I've seen good Light cosplay done by white people for instance.
if they can't for whatever reason find Japanese American actors that can play the roles,they can always try finding Korean or Chinese Korean American Actors, In fact there is somebody of Korean Descent I can see as Light. There are options.
The two actors cast so far are not bankable. Tons of movies cast Unknown and lesser known white actors in Big movies in lead or key roles like Chris Hemsworth and Chris Pratt,so therefore no big name is needed.
Death Note is not realistic in any way so I don't get why you are trying to use that why an Asian American could not be Light. The setting should still be Japan even in a American film
How can you disagree with him being Eurasian when you mentioned his heritage in your previous post? Finding A Eurasian actor won't be hard
The thing is no White person can look Light since he is not white
but an Asian person can look like L since he is of Asian Descent and this guy looks spot on
http://orig08.deviantart.net/4537/f/2011/130/9/5/4_death_note_cosplay_japan_l_by_gyaru_neverdie-d3g0y54.jpg
If an actor Eurasian or fully Asian can look the part and has the acting chops then he should be cast
You're comromising. When you start doing this you are open for many other changes. It becomes less about the source and more about personal bias. Don't do this. I'm open for changes so it doesn't bother me, but if you're about being sourceful, no compromising. If it's only about just having an Asian being cast in a role then it's being biased towards Asian actors more so being sourceful.
Less Asian actors or well known Asian actors or even just having Asian actors in general is rare because they are normally not as bankable
I already explained why in the quote that you quoted, realistically and within the story's setting. But if I have to eleborate again, I never said Light COULDN'T be played by an Asian, I'am merely suggesting that Light DOESN'T have to be played by an Asian, and it makes sense why when you consider multiple factors when you change the setting of the movie and have a brand new domestic audience.
Because I don't believe L is Eurasian. That's just a personal opinion on what I believe. That L is white with no Japanese in him at all. The author himself never blatantly says so either.
Argueable. I've already mentioned the Anime style and how it's more ambiguous. I think Death Note has a lot of realistic quality in facial features than most Anime's, but it's still very unrealistic, especially when it comes to teenagers.
In my opinion, that guy looks nothing like L. If you really look at L, side by side comparison, it's the hair and clothes that throw you off. Look at his face. He just doesn't look like L in the slightest facially. He just doesn't. I just can't see it and im not just saying that to have an argument, I mean that.
I mean looks can and don't have to be important when casting. Acting is the first priority...well...to an extent. First is business, marketing, etc, then Acting ability. Not in my view but in Hollywood's view. Money money money man.
I mean live action Death Note. No one looked the part because half the characters weren't Asian. Hell...even the live action Attack on Titan got rid of the whites, and literally every single character but ONE is white, and this is an actual plot point, being that particular Asian character, is the last Asian on Earth.
I'm just trying to defend the process rather than people Hollywood has to do ANYTHING when film productions all over the world do it equally as bad.
British and Austrian Actors play American characters all the time, a Korean or Chinese American actor playing Light would be no different than Christian Bale playing Batman.
Why Do Asian actors have to be bankable when White Actors who are not bankable get cast in big roles all the time? Chris Hemsworth was unknown when he played thor and Chris Pratt was not bankable when got cast in Guardians of the Galaxy and Jurassic World? Why can't Asian actors get the same chance?
There are Asian Americans in America so casting a white actor as Light makes no sense even in an American setting
Not argueable at all a white person can't look like Light.
http://orig08.deviantart.net/4537/f/2011/130/9/5/4_death_note_cosplay_japan_l_by_gyaru_neverdie-d3g0y54.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/uk/3/3c/Deathnote_L.jpg
If acting is what matters why are against an Asian actor playing L? People say its about money but none of those movies that are whitewashed ever make money.
I have already addressed the Japanese Death Note film and same thing goes for the AOT film America has diversity while Japan is 99 percent Japanese.
You are defending hollywood for robbing nonwhite actors of roles.
You're compromising again. Don't do this. If you're willing to accept some changes, then whatever changes you feel CAN'T be changed comes off as being biased. You either accept the entirety of the source or you don't.
The same exact reason why an unknown domestic white actor in Japan wouldn't be as bankable as an unknown domestic Japanese actor in Japan. The people there would prefer the Japanese actor long term. You are making an investment into an actor and a Japanese actor has a much greater success than a white actor in Japan based on preference. In other words you are taking the highest chance of success and banking on it.
I already explained this in the post you quoted. Please refer to it again. It's not that they CAN'T cast Light as Asian, it's more of why do they have to in an American setting?
For a while on these boards and many other fan sites, people thought Zac Efron was the perfect choice to play Light in the Death Note remake, because of his "resemblance" physically to the character.
https://goo.gl/127Lh7
https://goo.gl/VVJuk7
https://goo.gl/OgsLEH
https://goo.gl/EHPNhB
It picked up so much attention that he was asked about his potential involvement in playing L during an interview for another movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ues4UM6W9Ec
And the comments are also in agreement that he has a striking resemblance to the character Light Yagami. People on this board have brought up the same thing.
He looks too cartoonish IMO. He looks nothing like L at all. His eyes, lips and face are just not in anyway similar to L's. I can not see it. It's the makeup and hair that are throwing you off. Go look at the actor naturally without all of the ridiculous makeup. He looks nothing like L. Of course that is just my opinion.
I'm not against it, i'm just not for it. Acting is important because you have to be able to capture your audience. The goal is to make them to forget they are watching a movie and be captured by the scenery and the characters and plot. Good actors are capable of giving a great performance which drives exposure for the movie.
But let's not forget that money =/= a good movie (see Twilight). Never judge a movie's quality based on the amount of money they make. There's no point to be racially accurate to the source if it not only doesn't play an integral part of the plot, but also if the actors are terrible. Not saying Asian actors can't be good performers either, all i'm saying is, don't just cast them Asian just because they are Asian while forgetting their skills.
That doesn't change anything at all. They did it for the same reason Hollywood did it. That's the film industry for you.
Yikes, why did you say this. I was having fun until you just now admitted your bias and now I can't really take the argument seriously anymore. No one is robbing anything from anyone. No one is entitled to any role or movie script. They don't have to make it, and they don't have to cast it the way YOU want.
If you can Accept Christian Bale as Batman then you can accept a Chinese or Korean American as Light.
There is no diversity in Japan so that argument does not apply.
American does not equal white there are different races in America so if unknown white actor is given a chance at lead or key role then Asian Actors should have the same chance.
Why do they have to? Because there are Asian Americans
Those people think all the Japanese and Asian characters in Anime look white so they are not the best people to ask for an Opinion.
This guy does not look like L to you,but Zac Efron looks like Light? LOL
You are not against it but you said
"Proper casting for L can only be White"
"L should not at all be played by a 100% Japanese actor."
There are Asian Actors that are talented and they should have been cast. Yes they should only be Asian just like only White Actors are allowed to play Batman and Superman
No Hollywood is doing it out of racism.
An Asian Actor is being robbed of a role. You say "No one is entitled to any role or movie script",I guess you only feel that way towards nonwhites since white people in Hollywood don't face that problem
Then the movie does not have to be sourceful. It does NOT have to star ANY asians at all.
*sigggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh*
Sure, but not at the cost of marketing failure and loss of business. Find the demand for Asian actors from the majority of movie-goers and we'll have that chance.
Yes, and there's also White/Black/Latino/Native, etc etc. Why does an Asian HAVE to have this role? Especially when the main market is white women.
THOSE people? Not the best people to ask for an opinion? What sort of self righteous, egomaniacal person are you? Obviously if a lot of people see something a particular way, something just MAY be valid in their opinion.
I didn't say that personally about Zac Efron. You're putting words in my mouth. I clearly said it was a popular opinion in many areas of media.
And the difference here is the comparison is Zac looks like Light WITHOUT makeup and the hair. The actor who plays L, does not naturally look like L in the slightest bit. It's completely off and comes off more cosplay than realistic.
I clearly said in my opinion, because L is 100% white, in MY OPINION.
Because L is not 100% Japanese...it would be WRONG and a MISCAST to have a full Japanese person play L.
Rac-ism: the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
Please show me where that is happening widespread amongst ALL of Hollywood. And please, be specific.
And don't confuse racism for discrimination. All film industries discriminate, but not with the intention you think.
This is your problem right here. Once you realize it, I think we might be able to have better discussions.
Again, no one is entitled to any movie role. I don't know how many times I can do this circular argumenting with you.
So casting Nat Wolff in this movie is not changing the source,but casting a Korean or Chinise actor would be?
So you know I am right?
Edge of Tomorrow starred Tom Cruise and it bombed
Last Airbender starred White Actors and it Bombed
Dragonball evolution starred a white actor and it bombed
Because Light is an Asian character and you can say the samething about Superman and Batman why dot hey have to be white? There are Black/Latino/Asian/Native/ETC
Why would I want the opinion of people that know nothing about Anime and think most of the Japanese and Asian characters look white? That makes no sense at all.
You are talking Efron playing Light and you even posted pictures of light next to pics of him they look nothing alike.BTW the actors they cast will still have to wear makeup
Your opinion is Irrelevant since the Author already explained L's Heritage
But are fine with 100 percent white actor playing light?
It happens all the time when roles are whitewashed. The people making this movie denied an Asian Actor an audition because he was Asian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdxz2htgPiQ
You are the only with problem you think it ok for minorities to be robbed of roles
No one is entitled to any movie role,but White Actors don't face that issue
YOU'RE the one who thinks the actor HAS to be Asian in order for the roles to be SOURCEFUL./quote]
Because the Actor has to be Asian.
[quote]A long sigh is no indication of right or wrong, It is merely an audible breath a person makes in reflection to something someone says that is becoming tiresome or annoying. In my personal experience with my sigh, you are becoming repetitive, and you're making no progress in the argument. You are literally ignoring things that I say and repeating the same thing despite that I have already disproved and called you out on hypocritical positions. And you probably know i'am, but are choosing not to acknowledge them and repeating your position to hope for another outcome, and you won't find it.
Just stop
Movies where the race of an original character was changed is no indication of racism. I could list plenty of movies where white actors were changed or even Asian to another race, and succeeded
Again, I will ask you once again, and please give me 100% proven cases and BE SPECIFIC, of film productions that were intentionally being racist. I want cited examples please. And keep it modern.
I never said any of this, you're the one saying it. You're the one who has a problem with it. Again, stop strawmanning.
There's plenty of people who think many Anime characters look white and are fans of Anime. Or else we wouldn't be having this dicussion. In fact there would be a discussion if that was made 100% clear for everyone. Don't just assume people don't know what they are referring to by saying those people don't know anything about anime. You're making assumptions. Stop.
I'd love to have my white characters back if you want to play this game.
They look enough alike for people to bring it up, to the point where he was attached or known about the project to some extent. You see, the same way you don't see Efron as the character Light physically, I don't see the Japanese actor regarding his looks, compared to L. They look nothing alike. You see where i'm going with this? Do you see what i'm trying to explain to you?
Oh my god......OH MY GOD......ohhhh myyyy gooooddddddd. Why do I have to baby you?
The creator Tsugumi Ohba had THIS to say about about L:
When asked about L's ethnicity, creator of the series Tsugumi Ohba responded, ">>I think of him<< as a quarter Japanese, a quarter English, a quarter Russian, a quarter French or Italian, like that." Ohba said that L is the most intelligent character in the entire Death Note series because "the plot requires it." He added that he personally views L as "slightly evil."
>>I THINK OF HIM<<
In other words, THE AUTHOR ISN'T EXPLICITLY STATING AND DOES NOT KNOW HIMSELF. He is INTENTIONALLY keeping L's ethnicity open for interpretation.
Because, I. do. not. care. And I understand why they WOULD change it for America. I don't know how many times I can spell this out for you.
Why did you link me to a video on something we're already discussing and something i've already told you a disagree with?
They weren't looking for an Asian actor to play Light. Therefore why would they hire one? It's not racism, it's called changing the script.
I think you're really biased, and that's why you aren't following me. I think that's why you're losing the argument. And I really don't want you to lose, I want you to learn.
Of course they do. Don't start this again.
You are ignoring what I am saying,eating your own words and spouting more and more racist BS. You know I am right, you are being stubborn you should take your own advice and stop
Yes it is an Indication of Racism. IF those white characters were minor they don't count,rarely does a Lead or essential White character is changed to another race.I can name more movies that bombed that were whitewashed.
I already gave you a modern example,this movie an Asian Actor being denied the role for being. There is also that recent Peter Pan movie,Native Actresses were told by the director that they were only looking for white actresses to play Tiger Lily
So while the character of Tiger Lily may be white, the village she hails from is inhabited by a variety of characters from a variety of ethnicities. Wright reportedly auditioned numerous actresses for the role; only to end on Mara more for the way she inhabited the role than for the color of her skin. In doing this, Wright avoided a potentially offensive depiction of Native American culture by giving the film’s tribe an otherworldly aura to it. It’s a difficult assessment to make, because while Wright most certainly created a diverse group of natives for Pan, all of the members of the main cast are white – even the natives – and Mara herself has recently apologized for the outcry the decision has caused.
You are the one that has a problem with an Asian actor playing an Asian character and they try saying why does he have to be Asian and then bring up other races when you really don't want him to be anything other than white.
If people are thinking something like that is true when its not true then they don't know anything about Anime.
Instead of making those stupid assumptions
they should get the opinion of somebody who knows about Anime,there are blogs and youtube videos that help explain. Its better to ask for help then make stupid assumptions
What white characters? I thought race did not matter to you
Yeah I totally see,you think a White actor can look like an Asian character,but an Asian actor can't look like an Asian character.
He gives his thoughts on what L is,if he did not know he would not comment.
Its really funny how you are screaming and shouting.
You do care because you are against L being Asian and you also said "I'd love to have my white characters back if you want to play this game". There is no reason to change the race of a character especially if the setting is gonna be America.
You asked for proof I gave it you and yeah that is racist for him being denied an audition because of his race.
Changing the script means nothing
lots of English dubbed Anime in the 90s and early 2000s like Speed Racer,Pokemon,Sailor Moon ETC did that with the characters,but that does not change the race of the characters.
I don't want to learn from somebody that defends racism.
Whites actors are never told they can't play roles because they are White
I have been absolutely cornering you in this argument. I have provided substantial evidence to the contrary and have even clearly stated which were and weren't my opinions. You have merely been giving me your opinions and claiming them as fact. Your Biased has shown. Once you can't argue anymore you start turning to strawmanning and using red herrings.
Honestly, you are just disingenuous. You're just arguing for the sake of arguing and using circular logic to bring me right back to the same points i've already
Again...where's the racism? Next you're gonna tell me the traditional casting for Peter Pan on stage being always a FEMALE is sexist against men. Please give me BLATANT examples of racism. Like the demeaning of an entire race of people in the industry. I'm still waiting.
Oh so you don't waste your time, everytime you post something i'm either already going to know about, have argued about it, or i'm going to look it up. Please research whatever next thing you're going to tell me so I don't have to do it for you.
O“I really hate, hate, hate that I am on that side of the whitewashing conversation,” she went on. “I really do. I don’t ever want to be on that side of it again. I can understand why people were upset and frustrated.”
“Do I think all of the four main people in the film should have been white with blonde hair and blue eyes? No,” she said. “I think there should have been some diversity somewhere.
If they were MINOR they don't count? Now it's not even about minor roles it's only about leads? You have a lot ot learn what it means to be SOURCEFUL. This isn't even about sourceful casting anymore, it's only about having more Asian leads. This is such a ridiculously biased stance, i'm actually disgusted with it. Like from a debate point of view, you are behaving and acting completely unethical and any opponent would have laughed you right off the stage.
You're repeating yourself again. Please stop making me re-answer the same thing i've already answered to you twice. AGAIN, WHERE DID I SAY ANY OF THAT?! You're just making things up now. I never stated any of this....
Or maybe, Anime isn't drawn realistically and anyone associating their race with most generic anime styles is a buffoon?
So people can not interpret the style anyway they want? They have to consult Anime professionals? Is this really what you're saying? This is a freaking joke. I'm not taking you seriously anymore. This is like HAHAHAHA funny.
Sarcasm isn't really your strongest sense is it?
Anyway...THESE white characters. They aren't even race changed, they are just like, who they are, but physically changed into an entirely different race for no reason. And i'm taking these examples from just one game. I've used these in the past before:
What do all these characters have in common?
http://imgur.com/a/7F4bH
They are all white. Know what else they all have in Common? They all LOOK ASIAN.
Would you look at that. Square Enix, Japan media. All racist. Completely racist. Everybody's racist. SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIORS TO THE RESCUE...MY MOVIE ISN'T ACCURATE.
Someone needs to look up what an opinion is, and what a general consensus is...along with artistic licensing.
Again. I. Do. Not. Care. In other words. I do not care what the casting is, but I still have my PERSONAL preference. I'm not sure what's so hard to understand about this. It's like you're intentionally being stupid. I know you aren't, but you sure are acting this way. It's like you can't seperate Opinion, Sarcasm and facts. I just don't understand.
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So? This doesn't imply racism. What if he was denied for being too short? Hair being too long? Being overweight? Being female? Hands too big? Not beautiful enough? Not ugly enough? Can't act? Can't read? Has a limp when they walk? Is crippled? Has a bad stutter?
No. Let's focus on the RACE PART, because THAT'S the only demeaning quality you can have that is ever possible when being casted for a movie role.
It literally means EVERYTHING.
Yea.....BECAUSE THEY ARE STILL FREAKING CARTOONS. Who the hell even implied this? Starwmanning AGAIN...
Then you'll really never learn sadly. I've like badly defeated you.
I'm sure it happens. Especially if a role calls for someone who isn't white, and a white actors shows up. Guess what? That casting production...is now...racist.