Somebody should have put a stop to this film in the early stages. How it could have progressed this far (being released) is a mystery.
I haven't seen something this pointless and disorganized since I was in film school... A waste of an interesting cast and crew. This film would have ended the career of a lesser filmmaker. It's that bad.
This is the first movie in a long time where I feel like I truly wasted 2 hours of my life
shareI suspect this thread is a creation of the illuminati to keep us in order, or it's just some little kids that are pissed off at the movie cause it carefully doesn't show the actual violence, it only handles the subject with extreme grace and turns out to be an incredibly hypnotic character study. Thank the fu|c|k|ing heavens that this film exists, it's such a powerful piece of cinema, and a magical slice of the world that has been expertly crafted just for us.
share'Illuminati'? Lol, no, this movie is just HORRIBLY directed. You can tell that they did every shot as cheap as they could, and did only 1 take, even if it sucked.
I think basically you didn't get it. I'd watch it again rather than starting a silly thread with no specific analysis.
"He was pink and white, and all the colours you'll never see."
75% of the script/dialogue was improvised ... Herzog refuses to comment on or promote this film ...
This tells me something. A documentary film maker can simply shoot and let the "story" emerge ... a director of narrative film almost always fails by this approach. As David Lynch once said, "A filmmaker can do nothing to remedy a poorly crafted script." Werner Herzog, by his own admission, doesn't know what this film is supposed to be about. And if he doesn't know...
It's actually the norm for Herzog to have improvised scripts, here's guessing that you're not going to tell me Aguirre is a bad film because it's got an improvised script. It's also not true that Herzog refuses to comment on or promote the film, I don't really know why you'd say that. Then you contradict yourself and say that he has commented on it and says he doesn't know what the film is about which, I can't find any source for, and seeing as he's interviewed about the film on youtube, and doesn't say anything of the kind, sounds like you making it up or making a wild decontextualisation of something else he said.
You just didn't get the movie, everyone does that, I thought Blade Runner was a piece of crap the first time round...
"He was pink and white, and all the colours you'll never see."
This film is beautiful! Wonderful examination of a mentally ill man and the people in his life. On the DVD Herzog talks about how much he loved making this film. It's one of a kind.
shareI thought it was great, too.
I'm really trying to understand how people hate it so much. I can understand not liking it for whatever reason (no violence?), but I don't get the total disdain. I guess some people don't have a taste for the absurd, which this film spent time navigating, but it still seems like a decent 'crazy guy kills his mom, but why?' sort of film.
Anyway, any film that can divide people like this is almost certainly a good one. I knew when I saw Lynch/Herzog I'd be in for something interesting. Then I saw the actors and I couldn't understand how I haven't heard of this.
21 out of 10!!!! Fifteen million stars! 10 dead thumbs up yer ass!!
Thank you! I could not have said it better myself. I doubt very much if the OP did get it.......which would explain his/her post about how bad the movie was. But I just wish that when people do bash a film they would at least give the reason why....
shareI couldn't agree more and I do not understand how anyone can find anything good to say about this film. A total waste of time and money.
shareBad bad bad bad bad.
I gave it a 3/10 only for the weirdness. Otherwise - Zilch.
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awful. 1/10
shareWe "didn't get it". LOL. These aologists make me sick. Recognize garbage for garbage already. I'm a HUGE Lynch fan yet I'm no apologist when I watch garbage of his (Dune, practically all of that Dynamic 1 disc he put out- for starters)- and there's nothing worse than when some schmuck is telling a group of people who are obviously into offbeat cinema (or they wouldn't have watched a Lynch produced Herzog movie to begin with) that they "didn't get it". Go jump off a bridge- you waste of flesh.
shareI agree that the "didn't get it" defense should be retired from film discussion, but I disagree with the assumption that anyone who likes this film only has that opinion because he/she is "defending" it because of the filmmakers. I give this film much more credit because of the people behind it, true, but not because I simply wanted to like it, but because I trust these directors to put something interesting on the screen. So I'm going to look deeper into a film like this. I think that Herzog (not sure why people are considering this more of a Lynch film than a Herzog film, especially since Herzog co-wrote it as well as directed it) has earned it.
I found "My Son, My Son, What Have Ye Done" to be in the same vein as "Bad Lieutenant." By that I mean this is a film that goes against the norm and even seems to be poorly made at times, but I believe it is all intentional and all part of the process. If there is something to "get" about the movie, i would say that it is a look into insanity. If that truly is the point of this film, then it worked for me. I'm not apologizing for Herzog by liking this film...I just like it. You don't, and that's okay with me.
blanketing those who liked it as apologists is the same as saying those who hate it "didn't get it." In either case you are denigrating the taste and intellect of others for simply disagreeing with you.
shareWhy on earth do you type the idiot "LOL"??, especially in capitals???
shareI liked it. It was much better than I expected, based on the reviews. Not going to win awards, but the idea of combining greek tragedy, procedural crimes and madness is fine with me.
shareI saw Herzog promote it, in London last year. He seemed pretty pleased with it then, particularly the scene where Brad Dourif explained his plan to have a midget horseman pursued by a giant chicken.
I'm not entirely sure I liked the film, having just seen it, but having known someone who shared a number of the same character traits as the protagonist here (minus the homicidal tendencies) it had a certain amount of resonance for me.
As an American tragedy I don't think it's a patch on "Stroszek", and as a black comedy it's not as good as "Bad Lieutenant", but fair play to Werner for trying something different, at least.
I used to want to change the world. Now I just want to leave the room with a little dignity.
Razzle them. Dazzle them. Razzle-dazzle them.
8/10
I don't know what it is about this movie, but I can't stop thinking about it. I watched it last night and woke up this morning and just had to watch it again.
-- Grapes
schmuck!
schmuck!
Do people still use that word?
i can understand why people hate this film its like O Russell doing Kaufman with I Heart Huckabies, this is Herzog doing Lynch. Though only the later did it well, Heart was imitation, this is like minded collaborators. The shots of Herzog and the dialogue of Lynch a combined unease throughout bordering on constant tension. so be quite believers, think flamingo's
I'll probably check this out tonight, I've read some alarmingly in-the-middle reviews for a film with a stacked cast and crew.
As for greek tragedies laced with a procedural drama, check out Revanche. It's phenomenal.
The dialogue would flow better if it was in German, I reckon.
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What I meant is that the style of this film could benefit from an European setting or production.
I dunno, I watched Herzog in German and the dialogue was cooler than in this one.
Something was out of place.
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The films of Herzog which were shot in German should of course be seen in German but this one was written and filmed in English and It will be most certainly be a lot less good in the German dub.
I also think that the acting and the lines were great.