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LOL Jane friend zoned St. John


Even back then guys acted nice to women so they could get closer to them and eventually bang them. And just like in todays world, Jane was in love with a douchebag and instead of getting with someone who would probably treat her better she went back to her ex.

tsk tsk. I used to think that this book/movie should be required viewing for all girls growing up in order to teach them valuable lessons about being an independent woman free from a mans control. But in the end she still chose a douchebag because she couldn't break free from the restraints of physical attraction.

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hmmm ... Rochester, "a douchebag". Your interpretation has definitely got a contemporary spin to it. But don't you think "she couldn't break free from the restraints of physical attraction" has got kind of a 19th century ring. In a digital age scenario Jane wouldn't have heard Rochester's voice calling to her from across the moors, he would have "sexted" her. And if Rochester IS a douchebag, does the fact that he then becomes a blind douchebag, make him more or less appealing? In other words, does Jane decide to stay with him out of a need to act PC?

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WTF does "friend zoned" even mean?


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St. John isn't the only one who gets friend zoned, Justin Bieber gets friend zoned all the time. Going way back even Plato use to do it, that's why they called his relationships "Platonic". Let's face it, St. John was a great guy, but kind of a geek. Rochester had bad boy cred.

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I've bumped some relevant threads in case our friend would like to contribute to the discussions.



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BUMP?! What ya mean, like bumpin' Tupac?

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It has no "connotation." It simply means that in IMDB, threads with the most recent posts are "bumped" to the top and get more attention than those which, well interesting are far down and get overlooked.

But of course, I am being aggressively naïve!

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I know, I was still "in-character" - just kiddin' around.

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Sorry, didn't catch the joke. I'll be less aggressively naïve next time. I'll shoot for focused amiability.

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Jane did not love St John in that way. She loved Mr. Rochester. She did not owe St John anything just because he was nice to her.

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I dunno, I thought this version made it clear that St.John was a self-righteous douchebag all on his own, never mind the comparison to Mr. Rochester. There is just enough kindness in him to believe he's a good man, but a lifetime with him would kill Jane's spirit, just as she said.

He was pretty creepy while he so gleefully told Jane about her uncle's death and her inheritance.

St. John proposes to Jane precisely because he sees himself as able to control both himself and her. Unlike the other relationship, in which St. John wrestled with and conquered his passions, he believed his lack of affection for Jane would not cloud his perfectly rational and god-fearing judgment. On that matter, he expects Jane to submit to his will in all matters "as God intended." Imagine if all their marital disputes ended in such a justification? "I'm right, because I am man, and God made man superior to woman, such as yourself." With all due respect to people who do find contentment in this sort of relationship, the spirited and independent thinking Jane Eyre did not seem like the type to thrive under such an arrangement. I deliberately refer to St. John's proposal as an arrangement, because he himself does not speak of love, of which he simply believes "enough" of it will follow.

Whereas the book and movie make clear that Rochester is a changed man by the end, no such character development is suggested of St. John.

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You think girls shouldn't read this because they will learn to choose a douchebag over a "nice guy" while here you are never to learn your lesson and still believing a so called nice guy is entitled to a lover just because he's nice to a girl. Too bad you still can't learn that Rodchester had character that challenged Jane just like a guy in real life. Sorry but no matter what time period it is, people like you will never learn.

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St.John didn't want a marriage based on love, he wanted a business marriage. The movie doesn't mention it, but they were also cousins.

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