the armor fit him. think about it: the Iron Man suit was basically built around Tony; it fits him perfectly and moves with him like a second skin. the fact that Rhodes was able to fit inside the War Machine armor at all, let alone pilot it, indicates it's not just the original steel car-smasher with more dakka, but a new suit that was built specifically for Rhodes.
shareThat's right. Each suit is a high tech prosthesis. Iron Man and Tony Stark are one. Rhodey and War Machine are one.
shareI don't think it's an outright new suit otherwise why wouldn't Tony make it with the gold alloy his main suits are made of? He whipped up the Mark VI easy enough.
But I definitely agree he intended for Rhodey to have the suit. I don't know any other way to interpret the line where Black Widow says there are redundancies to prevent the suit from being stolen.
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I think its implied that Rhodes piloted the MK2 given how well he used it against Tony. Stark probably made some modifications to the interior. Of course maybe the suit actually allows for different sizes. Like pepper could wear it because it would adjust around her.
shareBut I definitely agree he intended for Rhodey to have the suit. I don't know any other way to interpret the line where Black Widow says there are redundancies to prevent the suit from being stolen.
Plus it had its own power source. Aren't the Iron Man suits powered by Stark's chest implants?
shareMastadge: "Aren't the Iron Man suits powered by Stark's chest implants?"
That's right.
Rhodey's suit had to be made specially for him.
Go back to IM 1.... remember when Stark was so psyched to show Rhodes the suit...I think that was his intention from the beginning.
shareNo, all the suits have their own arc reactor in the second film.
share"Plus it had its own power source. Aren't the Iron Man suits powered by Stark's chest implants?"
I'm just laughing cause you said Stark had chest implants.
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Of course he wants Rhodey to keep the armor. He was grooming him to be the next Iron Man after he died. This film was so complex.
shareOh wow, I 've seen the 2nd one so many times, I've never considered that...
sharePlus when Fury and Stark are talking in the dinner and Fury is mocking him about Rhodes taking the suit isn't there mention of safety and counter measures to ensure the suit doesn't get used by anyone but Stark himself?
Surely Stark must have disabled them or over ridden them to allow Rhodes to take and use the suit.
In one of the deleted scenes it shows how Rhody had the military customize his suit. He would be able to squeeze into Tony's suit. I just don't get how he could pilot it. I thought the Iron Man suit was controlled by neural interface
shareI personally found this element of the story to be the least-convincing and most embarassing part of the Iron Man films so far. I understand it's in the comics, but when Terrence Howard first alluded to the suit in IM1, it screamed "cheese". The first film told how Tony Stark built the suit, debugged it, learned how to use it, and master it. Then, all of the sudden, Rhodey just puts it on at a party, starts fighting Iron Man, while delivering cheesey one-liners. Boo on IM2.
shareRemember, way back in the first movie, Tony wanted Rhodey in on the "project" from the beginning. Rhodey didn't even want to hear about his new "this is not for the military" project. He told Tony to go get his head on straight.
Add that to the line where Tony says "If you want to be the War Machine..." Which sounded to me like Tony telling him "so yeah, now you're a superhero, too. Here's lesson #1." And like Fury said "you're the Iron Man, and he just *took* it?"
So yeah, I totally agree with you. And good call on the suit size.
fit him? Don Cheadle's Rhodes is such a scrawny puss, how could a suit thats designed for RDJ's Tony Stark NOT fit him???... loll.
It shows that Rhodes had access to his lab where all the suits are kept, so w/e he got in and put on an old suit; however, thinking the suit he grabbed was DESIGNED for him? lol I doubt it... Besides it looks like that's same suit that he was wearing in the first movie.
Also, you obviously have not seen the IM3 movie (actually this post started prior to it's release I can see)... Pepper ends up in a suit too, so yeah... benign variables like 'size' are not nothing worth citing for suits that are supposedly this advanced...
So I think we can accept that the suit can somewhat "meld" to the user. Rhodey isn't radically different than Stark in terms of size and Stark would probably account for if he himself gained a few inches the suits would still fit. The idea that Stark modified the Mark II doesn't hold though since he would have made a new model and called it "Mark __". So I think we're to assume that the silver suit that Hammer turns into War Machine is indeed the Mark II.
Now one thing I wonder about is the icing problem. Did Rhodey just stick to low altitudes? No way Hammer was smart enough to solve that issue himself (and it seems from IM1 that it requires a different alloy for the suit). What about in IM3? Did Tony build a new suit for Rhodey by then or is that still the Mark II with modifications by AIM now? That suit seemed to fit various people (who again were similar build but not identical) - so that supports the idea that Tony initially built the suits to be somewhat modular. Either because he wanted Rhodey involved specifically or because he wanted the option for multiple pilots - to be controlled by software/access rather than just the size of the suit.
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If you noticed though none of the suits worn by Rhodey (or the villian in IM3) actually went as high as War Monger did in the first Iron Man.
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Tony always intended Rhodey to work alongside him, as he tries to recruit him for a project when Rhodey declines. As for the suit being modified, I don't think that's the case. During the initial testing of the MK. II before it takes off for flight you see the panels on the suit moving, and a lot of them adjusting which leads me to believe that the suit can adjust itself to the heigth of a different user to a certain extent.
That plus Rhodey had direct access to the suits in the armory, along with some pretty good knowledge of how the suit works, which could have been Tony teaching him in the six months between this and the first film.
Tony gave him all his codes, trained him on the armor (I'm sure they practiced often) and left live arc reactors in them for a reason. He was dying and knew he had to leave Rhodey as his legacy.
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