how the hell did Tony rediscover a new element?
I don't get what the hell is going on when Tony is looking at his dad's model and all of a sudden discovers a new element. Can anyone tell me what the hells going on here?
shareHis father hid information about the Element in the diorama for Tony to find Using the streets of the model to represent the Electron shell of the Atom.
shareThank you both for your answers. But I don't get how he was able to create it in his own lab though. He created it with like a laser reflection and a mirror or something.
shareWe're supposed to believe (much like how Tony created a miniature ARC reactor from a box of scraps) that Tony built a particle accelerator or collider. And that was how he "bumped" one element into the one his father knew must exist but couldn't manufacture himself.
This is quite a leap full of "yeah but" things (like someone posted here about the fact that Tony would have been glowing and radioactive) but isn't entirely outside of realism. Many of the elements on the current periodic table were first believed to exist and then proven to exist.
Without getting too science-y (someone will rip holes in this who has a PhD or something), in theory you could build bigger and bigger elements just by adding Protons (and then balancing appropriately) but the energy needed to do so is presumed not to exist. At the same time, physicists will tell you that it's not impossible that within a black hole there are elements we never dreamed of.
Reading my signature constitutes admission that I am correct. (Too late)
Even if he could create a new element why in the world would his dad hide it in a model of a city? Why wouldn't he announce the existence of the new element himself? Its like Einstein coming up with the theory of relativity but doing nothing with it, instead hiding it somewhere hoping that someday a future resident of his house would find it after his death and propose it to the world...
Even more far fetched is how could it possibly be the cure to a problem his dad would never know his son would have?? Its like the biggest hole in a script ever.
Even more far fetched is how could it possibly be the cure to a problem his dad would never know his son would have?? Its like the biggest hole in a script ever.
Radical coincidence, but it's not a hole.
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Agreed. I can force myself to ignore Rhodes being suddenly an expert iron man from his first try, even though we saw Tony struggle for a while through the first movie to get the basic mechanics. But the element hidden by daddy Stark in the city map model, revealed with a hologram technology that didn't exist at his time, and which happens to heal Tony's deadly condition, acquired years after his father's death? No man, I simply cannot suspend disbelief on this one, it just bugs the Hell out of me.
shareThe hologram is simply the technology that Tony uses to explore the information in the model. He could have done it with a pencil and paper, or in his head, or on a computer screen. None of those would be as visually interesting as a hologram.
The sequence of events regarding the arc reactor are:
1. Howard Stark invents it.
2. It's not cost effective with the elements available to him.
3. He hides the info about an element which would work in a map for his son.
4. Stark Industries builds an arc reactor to "shut up the hippies." Still not cost effective.
5. Tony is forced to build an arc reactor in a cave.
6. The arc reactor is killing him.
7. He discovers his father's info from #3. The way to make arc reactors work properly, also coincidentally happens to save his life.
All of these things follow logically. Why do you need to suspend disbelief?
I can force myself to ignore Rhodes being suddenly an expert iron man from his first try, even though we saw Tony struggle for a while through the first movie to get the basic mechanics.
I think it's tacitly but clearly understood that Tony had been letting Rhodey play around with the suit a long time prior to this scene.
Use that thing between your ears, and stop expecting every movie to spoonfeed you every detail in shoehorned expository scenes and dialogue.
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"Even more far fetched is how could it possibly be the cure to a problem his dad would never know his son would have?? Its like the biggest hole in a script ever."
No, the arc reactor had already been invented. Howard knew it had limited potential. The cure is to turn the arc reactor into something civilization can use. Since Tony had adapted that technology to stay alive, the improved arc reactor had an additional, fortuitous benefit.