Grabbing a kid - best solution? Really?
Anyone else thinks that grabbing a little girl and throwing her at armed killer who just murdered 2 guys wasnt the most genius way to escape?
shareThis is where the movie jumped the shark for me.
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The girl was probably chosen because she would be light enough to pick up and swing. The sharp edge of the ice skate was used to cut the killer to disable him and prevent him from following for long enough to get away.
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Yeah, this didn't make sense - you endanger a little girl? Bad solution
shareWasn't like a lot of time to think even with an enhanced drug she had very little time so it's not a great solution but she it was won she reasoned would work and didn't have a lot of time for backup plans.
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Consider the daffodil. And while you're doing that I'll be over here looking through your stuff.
But you wouldn't care about that on NZT, especially not when a killer is after you with a knife..
shareI've skates don't have a sharp edge. The bottom of the skate is flat across, allowing the skater to essentially ride on a thin "cushion" of water between the blade and the ice. If a ice skate blade was sharp, the physics of ice skating would not work. One would simply cut directly into the ice and not move.
shareThe only thing true about any of the garbage you just spewed is that skates have a flat bottom.
They not only have one sharp edge but two. That's why you need to have them periodically "sharpened" with a "skate sharpener" due to becoming "dull".
I watched a hockey game last night where a guy needed stitches after his ankle was stepped on. You could most certainly cut a face or anything for that matter wih a skate blade.
Water "cushion" between the skate and the ice? Have you ever seen ice before? Water on ice turns to ice genius.
And you most certainly could ice skate with a skate blade to a beveled point oh Physics Professor. No matter how beveled that blade is there is still a flat on the bottom albeit microscopic. But then they would dull much sooner and performance hampered for ice skating but would certainly not just "cut directly into the ice and not move".
Water "cushion" between the skate and the ice? Have you ever seen ice before? Water on ice turns to ice genius.
He was right about that, and you are not. Sorry. share
Because... How so?
Sounds like Musashi may not have seen ice before either.
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You will find plenty of literature around the thin layer of water that forms that lubricates the skate and assists the ice skater.
Here's one url:
http://www.phy.ohiou.edu/~elster/pdf/IceS.pdf
If you read the article you'll note that the precise cause of the surface melt is not well understood. A combination of pressure and friction is mentioned, but further research is necessary.
I'd suggest you do a little research (with a lower case 'r') on Google before you insist on your simple intuition. Intuition is notoriously unreliable.
Okay so the molecular state of the ice surface due to surface melting and frictional heating to a microscopic quasiliquid film on the ice surface has proven that skates are not sharp and rendered this scene as unbelievable in the film. That warrants saying that you ice skate on a thin cushion of water to the average movie viewer.
Thank you for providing the link to your research Dr. Cooper. Did Leonard and Howard assist you in your Google (with an upper case 'G') research (with a lower case 'r')? Do you speak through EZ Keys?
You do realize this is a movie database message board and not Cosmos.
The irony of your backtrack is amusing.
Ice is a solid. Skates create friction and pressure which melt the ice, allowing skaters to move both gracefully (e.g. figure skating) and quickly (e.g. speed skating).
I just like how you come out swingin' on any subject streesupply. f^@k em all and keep posting you nut :)
The impostor's back where he belongs. Let's forget him.share
Please, use search engine to find answers to such ordinary questions:
https://www.google.pl/?gws_rd=ssl#q=why+is+ice+slippery
OH MY GOD! Why didn't anyone think of using Google?!! Wow.
Ice skates have sharp edges. That's why people sharpen them. Mucking Forons...
Didn't need Google... just common sense. It's too bad Google doesn't stop people from thinking that knowing facts makes you smart.
No, I don't care what you think. Really. Don't bother replying.
Showing this link would probably get the point across faster http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on-hockey/24929097/look-flyers-michael-del-zotto-suffers-scary-skate-cut-to-neck since it shows what an ice skate blade can do, there is also the video of another goalie in 1989, but that might be too graphic.
shareI don't need Google, a swami or Albert Einstein to know that slashing someone across the face with an ice skate blade will cut them.
I don't love her.. She kicked me in the face!!
Some people here did not understand why is ice slippery, and that can be easily found using any search engine.
shareA girl in my primary school have the end of her pinky finger cut off at the ice rink, by her dad.
shareAnd traumatize an innocent little girl in the process? You don't think that will stay with the girl for the rest of her life?
sharePersonally really liked this movie but that scene brought it down a full point.
shareThe whole point was that the drug makes the person taking it not care about anyone or anything except themselves. If a person is truly becoming a sociopath then they would have no qualms about using a child as a weapon.
shareIt's not about the ethics of what she did. It's about how ridiculous and convoluted it was.
shareWhat were her other choices?
After that guy stabbed two grown men Id go for the crowded skate ring too.
That plan has moral questions because she used the child as weapon but other than that I see no flaws.
She surely didnt predict how this all would work, but I agree that from the 3 choices she mustered up in that blink of an eye itd be the most promising one.
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Lincoln Lee: I lost a partner.
Peter Bishop: I lost a universe!
Not saying it wouldn't have worked IRL, just that it looked ridiculous. Everyone in the theater i was in burst out laughing, myself included.
BUT ... just because you are smarter, doesn't' mean you can pull off any stunt. boosting your IQ would not give you the perfect dexterity required to spin a child and use her skates as a weapon LOL. Smart =/= ninja
Not sure if it wouldnt have worked irl. Mythbusters should try this out.
Ive spun my nephew around like that, even harder/faster but never with skates on his feet.
When I was a kid my grandmother did this to me for greeting, though it was always me running towards her. Which works ofc better with the kinetic energy, however when I spun my nephew we both started from stillstand.
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Lincoln Lee: I lost a partner.
Peter Bishop: I lost a universe!
Everyone in the theater i was in burst out laughing, myself included.
That's because it was meant to be a funny scene.
When you play the game of monopoly, you win or you go bankrupt. There is no middle ground. share
But it didn't just improve IQ. It also sharpened senses.
That's why she could hear individual sounds around the park and pick out the child and her father from the other skaters on the rink and also why she knew her pursuer was right behind her even though she never once looked back.
I think it WAS the best solution. Yes, grabbing a child and swinging her at the man was not the best thing for the child. However, from a pragmatic standpoint, it made absolute sense. She was lighter, could not resist, and was wearing ice skates with a sharp edge. I took from the movie that having super high intelligence did not mean your ethics increased as well. It became survival of the fittest. The little girl on skates DID provide the best option at that moment.
My memory foam pillow says it can't remember my face. I can tell its lying.
I think it WAS the best solution. Yes, grabbing a child and swinging her at the man was not the best thing for the child. However, from a pragmatic standpoint, it made absolute sense. She was lighter, could not resist, and was wearing ice skates with a sharp edge
I'd add that the fact it WAS a child created an additional obstacle. Her dad would be ultra-protective, forming an even bigger physical barrier between Lindy and her attacker. Knifeman would have to get up, get around the dad & child and proceed to navigate the rest of the skaters. Meanwhile, hyper-aware Lindy (who had no problems running across the ice) would be long gone.
It was a very effective solution - but also a very morally bankrupt solution as well. That's why she refused to take any more of the stuff afterwards. share
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it's so ridiculous to be so offended by that scene and completely redundant as a) nothing happened to the girl and b) the attacker was effectively stopped, so it obviously was not only the most genius way to escape but also the most exciting one and everyone who cannot handle this scene should watch Disney movies instead
"Some people are immune to good advice."
-Saul Goodman
You're confusing best solution with moral solution.
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