I'm not saying it's a terrible movie in any way. It just wasn't that great, in my opinion. The animation was beautiful and I loved the characters themselves. But the story itself left something to be desired. It was interesting, but I felt like I had been cheated out of something truly enjoyable. I may need to give this another watch though.
shareMany agree with you. It is a cool universe (especially if you see the legend of Mordu short) that isn't handled as well as it could have been.
shareDavid, I didn't know of the short. Thanks for posting about it.
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oh my gosh, not another thread about how much this movie sucks!! there are plenty of similar threads on this board, why don't you join one of those instead???
shareDude, not that it matters but almost all of your posts are like that. Please stop. It is annoying.
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no. as long as people keep posting new tops about the same topic, i won't stop.
shareSo you are going to be an annoying piece of sh!t to everybody who dares to post their opinion???
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i'm not an "annyoing piece of *beep* to anyone who dare to post their opinion. i'm a ""annyoing piece of *beep* to those who starts a new thread about the same topic. it's not difficult to search for a similar thread with the same topic!
shareIn other words, you are an annoying piece of sh!t to anybody who dares to post their opinion.
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of course!
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I agree with you. Some people are lazy and don't read other threads first. And others are so self-centered that they feel their comment/opinion deserves its own thread.
Suffer the fools....
the op is starting a discussion which has been discussed before and there's already several threads with the same topic.
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no, why should i let him be? there were several similar discussions, so of course i was attacking him.
and i already posted my opinion on the movie.
and there's already several threads with the same topic.
Do you actually HAVE an opinion about this film...
i actually thought the film was good the first thirty minutes and it got mediocre afterwards.
shareSame here...It didn't suck but I expected a bit more...At times I felt like the story line borrowed from a bunch of story lines that have already existed...This seemed like a mix of Tangled, The Little Mermaid, and The Princess and the Frog.
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Well, Brenda Chapman did say it was supposed to be a little inspired by Hans Christian Andersen. I guess the whole thing with the witch is kind of like that. Only this witch is a bit more like the original Little Mermaid witch as opposed to Ursula in that while shady, she doesn't come across as particularly evil.
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When exactly are you going to do the world a favor and die?
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see?? this proves what a hypocrite you are!!! you are trying to act like a goody-goody and saint, while you proves your true nature here!
shareOK, thanks. Now do me a favor and die.
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you filthy coward and hypocrite. you can say a lot about me, but i'm not threatening people and wishing them to die, in contrast to you.
shareNo, you are just the most annoying piece of sh!t that has ever written on IMDb. So go and flush yourself down the toilet.
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Why do you care so vociferously? Just skip the thread if you're not interested.
share""the op is starting a discussion which has been discussed before and there's already several threads with the same topic.""
And...? The OP has as much right to express his opinion - and to start a new thread to do so - as you have or anyone else has, so stop being an annoying idiot. Or can you not help that?
it's still a bad excuse. idiot yourself!!
shareI was expecting something along the lines of this:
Main character is a princess who is rebellious and likes to adventure.
She has been cursed and her fate is doomed.
She finds a witch (or someone magical) and asks for a spell or cure to change her fate.
She goes on an adventure across the land and seas and mountains and fields and waterfalls and cliffs to find a cure to her curse.
She magically succeeds and lives happily ever after.
That's what I got from the trailer when it first came out and I thought it was a decent plot. Then it came out and I was like: It's another one of those parent -and-son/daughter-bonding films. AGAIN.
But Gandalf! I don't want to be a Hobbit~~
You *were* cheated out of something special. I saw the film (unfinished, some scenes were only storyboards with sound) before Brenda left and it was far superior to the film that ended up in theaters. It went massive edits at the last moment and much of the depth was lost, resulting in plotholes, confused audiences and a certain sense of something missing that you have all noticed. Little care was taken to smooth the edited film out after it was chopped up, so while you see the effect of the missing scenes you never see the cause, i.e. the scenes themselves. Something was indeed missing (many somethings) and I am sad that you and others did not see the film that I saw. The earlier scrip drafts alone were incredibly promising. One can say that *I* saw The Bear and the Bow; you save Brave.
I might be willing to share the missing scenes with discretion via PM. Whatever I say there must stay there, however.
At the end I was kind of scratching my head...wondering why some things didn't make sense and why some things were left hanging. Like what was the point of just leaving the Queen's crown on a rock and not ever retrieving it? (I'm guessing it's supposed to symbolize her losing her "feminine" manners and transforming into (somewhat) more of a tomboy like Merida). Why don't we ever see the witch again? If the spell in the tart is for the Queen, then what on earth does the tapestry have to do with anything...that shouldn't affect the spell.... and if it's just for the Queen, then the boys shouldn't have been affected. Also, if the boys turned from bears to boys after the sun rises, then there was no reason to fix the tapestry and put it on the Queen. Overall, odd movie, too short, rushed, and sort of left me hanging at the end. :-/
shareWell, as has been said before there is a good bit missing from the final film.
If your intrigued enough to want to watch it again then try looking at the `Legend of Mor`Du` short then go straight back into the main film.
That should help a bit in picking up some of the more obscure plot points which connect to things largely removed from the final screenplay.
Suffice to say, there is a whole `Fate and Destiny`and `Ancient Curse` aspect to the story that seems to have been largely lost or deliberately removed from the final version!
"Any plan that involves losing your hat is a BAD plan.""
SuperhumanChichi, it's been a bit over 3 years since your post, so I don;t know if you'll read this, but I wanted to chime in with regard to your questions. Of course, these are just my perceptions.
Just leaving the Queen's crown: Of course, I expected the story to come around and revisit this scene, but that did not happen. For me, it symbolized the transition from Elinor the proper queen to a wild bear. If you'll notice, it is in this scene where Elinor first acts more like a bear than a person, representing the first stage of the curse's fate.
What I saw regarding the tapestry is that it did not have anything to do with removing the curse. Again, after the movie finished, I saw that that was the point of the tapestry.! It represented the superficial fixes to our daily problems that are typically easy, but futile. The true fixes are those that lie beneath and come from within us. Or perhaps said another way, the tapestry represented the fixes that we do with our hands while the true solution to remove the curse comes from our hearts.
Also, the tapestry served as a device to parallel the story of the four princes. When Merida was in the ruined castle and we saw the broken stone slab with the four princes, the tapestry came to mind, paralleling the fate to come.
I loved the movie! But I also agree that it was missing something, and from others' posts, it is obvious that the movie was heavily redacted. Mostly likely this was because its main market was little kids. It would have been an interesting experiment if Pixar would have released a kids' and a adults' version of this film. Regards.
The film was a hotchpotch of story ideas cobbled together to make film. No wonder the trailers seem to bear little resemblance to the final film.
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One interesting aspect about some of the trailers, particularly the older ones is that they contain footage that shows scenes no longer in the final film.
Now it`s rather unusual for an animated film to have completely finished but unused footage to the extent this one has since most editing in such films tend to normally take place at the storyboarding stage.
Its an indication just how much `Brave` was changed from its original conception as `The Bear and The Bow`.
"Any plan that involves losing your hat is a BAD plan.""
Agreed.
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