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[SPOILERS] Do you think Do-joon remembered...

posted 13 years ago by Roseminty
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...that he killed Ah-jung? I'd like to believe that he didn't. At all. Since the mother cleared herself of her bad memories and guilt with the acupuncture on the bus, I'd like to believe that they lived together happily once more without any recollection of the crimes they committed.

But then I was looking through the board here and saw a reply mentioning that during the crime reenactment, Do-joon dropped a rock on the dummy's head and the head popped off. It actually wasn't a rock; it was a bag filled with something hard. I assume one of the officers was carrying it. But nonetheless, that changed my viewpoint. I think that he does know what he did *on a subconscious level*, which allowed him to crudely illustrate how Ah-jung was killed as well as explain to his mother why the murderer (why he, but he wasn't aware of that) put the body on the roof.

I don't suppose that really changes much in terms of what Do-joon and his mother did after the events of the movie, though. Even if he did subconsciously know he killed Ah-jung (and for that matter, even if he *consciously* knew he killed Ah-jung), I don't think he would be capable of realizing what that really means and would not be haunted by memories and guilt as his mother was. And perhaps he just forgot again anyway. He seemed to re-forget the memory of his mother poisoning him pretty quickly. Or maybe he just forgave her?

What do you guys think?

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[–] update_panel 13 years ago

You might want to change the title of your thread because you are giving away the movie and it would suck if someone were to see it before watching the movie. It happened to me a few times :)

I think that he forgets killing Ah-Jung. Just like he forgot that Jin Tae kicks the mirror off the benz, forgets the color of the car that hits him etc. There is a possibility that one day the memory might come back, just like the memory of Mother trying to poison him, but I too would like to think that Mother and Son will live happily ever after. Ending kinda reminded me of Oldboy where the protagonist realizing the magnitude of the situation tries to erase the bad memories.

What I thought of the crime re-enactment was that the cops were just putting the finishing touches to the closed case. At that point in the movie we are all under the assumption that Do-Joon is innocent, even that one cop doesn't think he is capable of killing someone, and the re-enactment just felt forced. The police officers were telling him how to hit the dummy, how to leave the dummy in the position of the dead body. So I thought they were just trying to show that Do-Joon is indeed the killer in front of people/press by directing him in the re-enactment.

I think he re-forgets the memory of his mother poisoning him or maybe he realizes that his mother killed the junkyard man, the only witness, to the murder and forgives her?

Peace and Lve

[–] Roseminty 13 years ago

Ahh, you're right! Sorry, I wasn't thinking. I've changed it. :]

I totally agree. I haven't actually seen Oldboy yet, though. :P

Ohhhh, now the whole reenactment scene makes so much more sense. I didn't realize that the officers were telling him what to do in order to close the case more quickly. (Not sure why because it's pretty dang obvious. Guess I just had a brain lapse.)

Yeah, I think he just re-forgot that she poisoned him, just like he forgot the things you mentioned.

...I'm not a girl.
You're not a girl? What are you?
I'm nothing.

[–] d_art 13 years ago

The title is kind of a spoiler...maybe you should rename it as "Do you think Do-joon remembered what he did?"

But, anyways, my reaction was that he probably was a lot more diabolic than one might give him credit for due to his handicap. Sure, we assume he forgets things easily, but we also assume he doesn't lie. This struck me particularly in the scene near the end when he talks about why the killer would put the girl at the rooftop where everyone could see her. It reveals why he did it, at the same time, he is trying to lessen his guilt by semi-explaining to her (or himself) that the killer's (his) intention wasn't completely cold (in his eyes).

[–] Roseminty 13 years ago

Yes, sorry. I did change the title.

Hmmm, Do-joon having a more sinister side is certainly an interesting take on it. :O It makes me sort of sad, though... I still like to think that he really didn't remember what he did and that his explanation of why the killer put Ah-jung on the roof was simply his subconscious talking. I tend to go with whatever explanation makes me happier, haha. As long as it makes sense, of course. :P

...I'm not a girl.
You're not a girl? What are you?
I'm nothing.