Ouch... (SPOILERS)


I was really disappointed with how seasons six and seven played out. You could see Jackie doing her best to redeem herself and stay clean in seasons four and five. Then, she took a total nosedive and became outright ruthless in season six. Sure, she did some crappy things in the beginning for drugs (such as the incident with the MRI or stealing the drugs off of the dealer when he had a seizure), but she became so much more brutal and cruel in season six.

After the relaxed and slightly more light-hearted vibe of season five, season six did a total 180 and was dark as hell. Then, of course, the series finale was a complete and utter downer.

Perhaps it's just a matter of me being a sucker for the cliché happy ending, but I feel that with a show that had as much comic relief as Nurse Jackie, there could have been even a little spark of hope towards the last two seasons of the series.

After having watched the entire series twice, I can't help but want to mourn for Jackie. In the beginning, she was able to flip a switch between being a mother and nurse, and then having her fun and abusing drugs. She lost that balance and ended up losing her humanity, as well as practically everything else that was important in her life. Season five was my favorite because she was working through her problems and, for once, was not the bad guy of the story. I would almost go as far as to say I wish the show had closed with season five, with her going to her one year celebration without taking the pill in her bedroom.

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After the relaxed and slightly more light-hearted vibe of season five, season six did a total 180 and was dark as hell. Then, of course, the series finale was a complete and utter downer.


Not a personal dig at you but you may want to go back and re-watch the series with different eyes. Jackie never, ever tried to truly recover. Her addiction controlled her from Episode 1 to the series finale. She undermined herself and her family at every turn and ultimately wrote her own final chapter. There was no way that this series was going to end on a light-hearted note.

In the beginning, she was able to flip a switch between being a mother and nurse, and then having her fun and abusing drugs. She lost that balance and ended up losing her humanity, as well as practically everything else that was important in her life.


There is no "balance" when drug abuse is involved. Ever. This point of view about habitual drug abuse could be why you perceived the last two seasons as "dark as hell." In reality the entire series was dark with smatterings of hope that maybe Jackie could turn the corner.

-Rod

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I don't agree with you. As much as she struggled to do so, she worked on staying sober throughout seasons four and five, because she knew she was destroying her life. Yeah, she screwed it all up in the end and relapsed after a year of being sober. She gave into the urges, but up until then, she had been improving and was attempting to regain some sort of peace of mind in her life.

Also, it was stated that she had been using for years before the show started, which she seemed to do a pretty swell job of in the majority of the first season. In my personal opinion, it wasn't until she chugged three vials of morphine that her drug habits were starting to go out of control.

Yes, the show is meant to be dark humor/a dramedy, but there was a much darker side to Jackie in season six that I just don't think came out quite to the same extents in the earlier seasons. She lied through her teeth and did plenty of *beep* things before, don't get me wrong, but the went to all new lows and became much less remorseful for it in season six. Doing things like stealing Carrie's DEA number and having a dying nun take the blame, having Akalitus run over her foot so that she could justify taking Vicodin from her, and making her sponsor relapse (after ten years of sobriety, nonetheless) so she could ditch her in rehab, all so she could continue using. She was more and more willing to take other people down with her, whereas she had at least a little bit more humanity in her before to go to such low extents.

I sincerely think she was trying to do better in seasons four and five. By no means were things perfect, but she had finally seen how much her world had changed from her drug use. In season six, that much no longer mattered to her, which is why I find it to be such an incredibly depressing season.

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Also, it was stated that she had been using for years before the show started, which she seemed to do a pretty swell job of in the majority of the first season.


That is the languange of enabling. It is exactly what the user wants you to believe, that everything is OK.

In my personal opinion, it wasn't until she chugged three vials of morphine that her drug habits were starting to go out of control.


Jackie was a full blown addict throughout the series and prior. Degrees of addiction are not a "thing." The illusion of control is central to the story. Jackie was never, ever in control. Ever. Not even during her supposed period of sobriety. She was never once trying to do better. She just wanted her "control" back and to perpetuate the illusion that she was being "persecuted" so that she could continue using. In the end, it's obvious that Jackie was never really trying to change.



-Rod

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Once again, I don't agree with you, and I really don't appreciate your condescending tone. I think you have a very black and white, cynical, and cutthroat perspective of the character, but I simply think Jackie's character development was more complex than that.

Yes, Jackie was an addict throughout the show, but there is a definite shift in desperation and continual loss of morality that progresses throughout the show. By no means was she a good person in the beginning, but the extents that she goes to get her fix become more and more desperate as time goes on.

In the first season, Eddie outright offers her narcotics, and for a majority of the season, THAT is how she attains drugs. Whether or not she slept with him simply to get drugs or if she felt any actual attachment to him in the beginning is never stated outright. It is not stated outright if her reason for being upset over him being replaced by the Pill-o-Matix is only because of his supplying to her, or if she actually liked him. You may think she only cared about the drugs, but once again, that is never stated outright.

In season two, she starts to sink a little bit deeper. She steals a crippled person's MRI to convince O'Hara to give her Oxycontin. She also steals several bags of Roxicodone off of the drug dealer as he had an epileptic seizure. There is also a huge pharmacy bill, which is never fully explained, but suggests that there had to have been some point in time in which she was legally being prescribed these drugs.

In season three, Kevin, O'Hara, and Akalitus become aware that she has a problem. She lies through her teeth to everybody that she's clean, then goes as far as to steal Fentanyl patches that were intended to be for patients who were suffering from cancer. Then, although Kelly was also guilty for stealing some of them, she covers her crime by pinning her theft on him as well.

In season four, she realizes how low she has sunk when the junkie overdoses in her living room. She says herself that she needs rehab. From that point, until her relapse at the end of season five, she stays clean. Yes, she left rehab early against the advice of her counselor, she struggles with cravings, and she outright says that she doesn't like the group therapy program, but she stayed sober. If she truly had no intention to stay sober, and was only trying to create an illusion that she was being persecuted, why would she wait an entire year before using again? When she managed to attain a handful of narcotics from the athlete at the beginning of the season, she flushed all but one of them, and didn't take the one she saved until the end of the season. There was a scene in which drugs were littered all over the floor of the pharmacy, and she did not take any of them. When Grace was caught with Adderall, Jackie did not take any of them (yes, she stated she didn't care for Adderall, but that doesn't mean she couldn't have still taken it). With all those opportunities to slip up, why wouldn't she if she truly had no intention of being sober throughout all that? Yes, she did relapse, but I still think the time that she had stayed clean signified that there was a sense in her that truly wanted to improve as a person.

I truly don't think it was until season six that she decided she never wanted to quit using. She became more desperate, ruthless, and calculating than ever before. There were times in the earlier seasons that she would drag other people into her problems, such as the incident with O'Hara and the MRI, but she goes to much more extreme measures in terms of involving other people in her addiction in season six. She steals Carrie Roman's DEA number, and then frames Helen for the crime. She had Gloria run over her foot, so she could trick her into getting a prescription for Vicodin filled and feed it to her. She uses in front of her sponsor, Antoinette, and convinces her to get drunk, under the impression that they'll go to rehab together, and then abandons her there. She outright tells Frank that she took seven Oxycontin, and when he gets upset with her, she shows absolutely no remorse and says "I don't need anything from you". When Kevin had found her stash in season three, she at least pretended that she was clean, to spare his feelings. With Frank, she did not care in the least bit.

You may believe that the level of mercilessness that she reverts to in season six was in her all along, but I simply don't think that was the case. I think she initially had some sort of boundaries in the beginning, but as time went on, her sense of morality continued to decline. I couldn't have imagined her doing any of those things in the prior seasons.

You say that her staying sober was meant to create an illusion of being persecuted, and while I still don't believe that was the case in seasons four and five, I will admit that it was the case in season seven. She was only sober because she was left with no choice. The moment she had her nursing license back, she went back to using, and I think that was the final line that signified that she would never try to be sober again. In the final episode, she sees that she has lost the respect of Zoey and Dr. O'Hara, and says herself "this is me at my best" when O'Hara confronts her about being stoned. I think her reason for offing herself with the heroin was that she finally decided that she didn't want to live unless she could be both a nurse and a drug user. She didn't want to have just one or the other. She knew her life would have no purpose if she weren't a nurse, but she also wanted to continue using because her life felt incomplete without it.

It's important to keep in mind too that a lot of the show was left up to the viewer's interpretation. It is never outright stated that Jackie's reason for being with Eddie is only for drugs. It is never outright stated why Jackie relapsed at the end of season five, or if she truly never had the intention to stay clean. It is never outright stated why Jackie overdosed in the series finale. You have your own ideas as to why the show played out the way it did, well these are mine. In the first episode, Jackie's comparison to Augustine sums up her rationalization the best; she knew there was good in her, but she didn't want to give up her drug use until she was ready. I think the good in her that was there started to slip away as time went on. She tried to be better in seasons four and five, and once she screwed up and relapsed, she let that last bit of humanity slip away. By the time of the series finale, she had accepted that she was never going to get better or try to become "good", and thus, she did herself in.

I want to reiterate too, that by no means am I trying to excuse her drug usage or say that was she was doing was ever "okay". The point I am attempting to make is that there is a gradual build-up of desperation and ruthlessness in her drug usage. After a year of being clean, any kind of remorse or humanity that she had completely disappeared in season six. You cannot possibly tell me that there isn't some kind of change in personality or character traits between seasons one and six. If you sincerely believe that, then perhaps it is you who needs to watch the show again.

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condescending tone.


I don't see how you can infer tone from text. My language has been nothing but straightforward since my initial response in which I even went out of my way to say that it wasn't a personal dig at you. Disagreement is not condescension, and none was intended.

From your original post:
In the beginning, she was able to flip a switch between being a mother and nurse, and then having her fun and abusing drugs. She lost that balance and ended up losing her humanity, as well as practically everything else that was important in her life.


My issue with your take on the character is your view that Jackie had some kind of balance in her life as a full blown addict, before things started to go wrong. This is a fallacy. You refuse to admit that this POV is genuinely ignorant of the psychology of addiction. There was no switch flipped. Jackie was constantly on something or trying to be on something. Jackie needed help but didn't really want help, and it ultimately cost her everything.

I want to reiterate too, that by no means am I trying to excuse her drug usage or say that was she was doing was ever "okay".


If that's the case, you shouldn't have used the words "fun" or "balance" when describing Jackie's drug habit. Both words imply that Jackie was in control of her life, which was never the case at any point in the show. She was a master manipulator, as most long-term addicts are.


The point I am attempting to make is that there is a gradual build-up of desperation and ruthlessness in her drug usage. After a year of being clean, any kind of remorse or humanity that she had completely disappeared in season six. You cannot possibly tell me that there isn't some kind of change in personality or character traits between seasons one and six. If you sincerely believe that, then perhaps it is you who needs to watch the show again.


The desperation you mention is only apparent whenever Jackie is found out or is about to be found out, which happens several times during the show's run. It is at those points that she lashes out at those around her and becomes ultimately defensive. Of course there is a change in her personality throughout the show. Whenever she is sober, she is miserable. Whenever she is high, she feels in control, which is why abusing prescription meds is so dangerous. Jackie deteriorated over time, as all addicts do, and after her attempt at sobriety (which was only so she could get her license back and then continue to use, BTW) she just gave it up because she knew she couldn't continue to get away with her deception.

Also, I don't need to re-watch anything. It's troubling whenever clarity is mistaken for cynicism. I'm very aware that Jackie was a complex character and that she developed as such over the course of the show. Again, my issue with your interpretation of her character is that she was ever truly in control of her life from the point when we meet her. She clearly was not.

-Rod

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It's important to keep in mind too that a lot of the show was left up to the viewer's interpretation. It is never outright stated that Jackie's reason for being with Eddie is only for drugs.


No, it isn't stated verbally. It is illustrated visually. You can see it for yourself and it's really obvious what's going on. There's nothing to interpret.

Jackie uses Eddie for drugs and, conversely, Eddie uses Jackie for sex, which develops into something else for Eddie. Eddie has genuine feelings for Jackie although it is up for debate whether it's just co-dependency or genuine love. I tend to think that it's love based on Eddie's first few encounters with Kevin at his bar. Eddie is actually sad that Jackie ends their relationship at that time. Jackie couldn't care less.

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Sadly addicts sink lower and lower.Things they themselves thought were off limits, become fair game.
The only thing that they care about is the next high.
I did hope that Jackie would have succeeded after her year of sobriety.
The end of season 4 did seem hopeful with the birth of O'Hara's son, and at that time I thought she was trying.
Once she lost O'Hara there was no one to keep her in check, or call her out on her behavior.

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