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A decent Predator film ruined by woke messaging

posted 2 years ago by Drooch (5333)
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This is almost a worthy entry into the Predator franchise.

Predator 10/10
Predator 2 8.5/10
Predators 8/10
Prey 6.5/10

(The rest aren’t worth mentioning)

If it wasn’t for the cringe wokeness it would get a respectable 7.5/10. It’s well shot, has some great action, and the battle builds well as the hero learns the combat strategies of the Predator and beats it.

Structurally, it’s well written, and the execution is very good for the most part, it looks great. The CGI animals sometimes convince, other times not. The actors are all… fine.

Now, woke cultists will pull their usual strawman of ‘OMG you just hate women and are intolerant of a female lead bigot!’ Nobody thinks that and they know it, they’re just deceitful fucktards who cannot engage with the actual argument, which is…

1. White males are portrayed as evil and incompetent, and the film encourages you to celebrate their slaughter. It’s racist, sexist crap.

2. The female lead lives under a bigoted patriarchy that fails to recognise her prowess, and of course we’re encouraged to celebrate the slaughter of male tribe members who mistreat her. The males are all nerfed while the female lead is ridiculously buffed by the script.

The film reigns this in a bit by having her be incompetent at one point which makes it less egregious than the worst woke propaganda out there, but it’s not enough to neutralise the stench of woke going on here.

Shame because there’s much to recommend the film. I encourage you to watch it but make sure you don’t pay for it - do not fund any woke propaganda.

[–] Meushell (14) 2 years ago

1. You celebrated the death of the guy who tried to talk to her? Who was helpless with a missing foot? That’s on you.

2. You also celebrated the death of her male tribe mates? Only one annoyed me. The rest only really “mistreated her” after she refused to return and got violent about it. Maybe I’m remembering wrong, but wasn’t Naru the one to throw the first punch? The rest sort of stayed back until she won. They were obviously fodder due to the nature of the movie, but I didn’t celebrate any of their deaths. That is also on you.

[–] Drooch (5333) 2 years ago

I didn’t do either of those things, Cathy Newman.

If you’re going to wrestle straw men to the ground go do it elsewhere, we’re trying to discuss a film here. If you want to join in then read the fucking post properly.

[–] Meushell (14) 2 years ago

Believing that the audience was supposed to implies that you did. Otherwise, why would you think the audience was supposed to celebrate either slaughter?

[–] Drooch (5333) 2 years ago

No it doesn’t, it means I’m aware of the propaganda taking place without falling for it.

[–] Meushell (14) 2 years ago

That answer is basically… “Because I said so.” I guess we just disagree then because I didn’t see any indication that we were supposed to be celebrating the two slaughters.

[–] Drooch (5333) 2 years ago

No, Cathy Newman, my answer isn’t anything other than what I expressed, which was ‘it means I’m aware of the propaganda taking place without falling for it.’

Stop pulling quotes and arguments out of your ass and attributing them to others and start paying attention to what they actually say.

[–] Meushell (14) 2 years ago

😂 What is what supposed to be? I mean seriously, I agree to disagree, and you just repeat yourself, then attack. I honestly don’t know what you expected to accomplish with that, but thanks for the laugh.

[–] Drooch (5333) 2 years ago

We don’t ‘disagree’ - I’m objectively right and you’re wrong, and you’re guilty of repeated straw-manning, and I’m calling you out for it.

[–] Meushell (14) 2 years ago

I shall argue as you do, and maybe, just maybe you’ll see how fruitless it is.

You are an idiot.

Now. Do you see how ridiculous insulting someone is as an argument? I doubt it. Anyway, you are just repeating yourself now, so until you actually have something new to add, goodbye.

[–] Drooch (5333) 2 years ago

You still don’t get it. I’m not insulting you, I’m describing you, and I’m pointing out where you’re objectively wrong.

Stop acting like an emotional bitch, stop being deceitful, and start taking an interest in what is true. Capiche!?

[–] ATG6 (3000) 2 years ago

Nerfed? Her brother was an amazing warrior, but you weren't going to beat the Predator with fighting skills alone, you were going to have to outsmart it. The Predator underestimating her threat level was part of the story.

[–] Drooch (5333) 2 years ago

Yes, nerfed. The male warriors were all slaughtered by the Predator while a pudgy little girl defeats it. The fact that the brother puts up a bit more of a fight before he gets slaughtered doesn’t detract from my point one iota.

[–] Bigt (114) 2 years ago

You're just looking for things that aren't there. Get a grip, bro. Watch the movie for what it is and enjoy it...or don't. But stop bitching. The issue lies with you more than anything as the two posters above me have pointed out. Fucking muppet.

[–] Drooch (5333) 2 years ago

Possibly the worst attempt at gaslighting by a wokist I’ve seen yet. Stupid prick.

[–] Bigt (114) 2 years ago

Not a "wokist" by any means lol.....truth hurts bro. Stop being a victim and looking to be outraged by anything and everything. Goddamn muppet.

[–] Drooch (5333) 2 years ago

Of course you’re a wokist, that’s why you’re irrationally defending Peele’s woke, racist film. It also explains why you exhibit the obnoxiousness and low IQ of a woke drone. Dumb cunt.

[–] Bigt (114) 2 years ago

You sound triggered......typical lib lol

[–] Drooch (5333) 2 years ago

Keep your self-talk private, people here don’t want to hear it.

[–] Bigt (114) 2 years ago

So triggered.......lol

[–] Drooch (5333) 2 years ago

Why come here if you’re ‘so triggered’?

[–] Bigt (114) 2 years ago

SSShhhhhhhhh lol

[–] Drooch (5333) 2 years ago

Yeah, you’d like to silence dissent from the cult but… not going to happen this time.

[–] Bigt (114) 2 years ago

lol you are delusional....so triggered

[–] Drooch (5333) 2 years ago

The irony of a braindead cultist calling someone else ‘deluded’ is clearly lost on you.

[–] Bigt (114) 2 years ago

Oh man, Drooch with the month-late reply....must still be triggered lol

[–] April-151-CT (10210) 2 years ago

It was very lame indeed. 😂😂

[–] PrimeMinisterX (8716) 2 years ago

You just flat out lied here.

I bet next you'll try to convince us that the anti-white male narrative clearly on display in the portrayal of the Europeans also isn't really there.

[–] Bigt (114) 2 years ago

What?

[–] Palanador21 (217) 2 years ago

1. This movie took place in 1719 around the time when white men were doing things like giving Native Americans diseased blankets, slaughtering whole tribes and taking slaves on a regular basis. Through the eyes of the natives there were very few good white men at that time. There was nothing "woke" about that it was just a fact of history. Your problem is with the accurate portrayal of history, not this movie.

2. I also wouldn't say that their society was necessarily bigoted.. The women had a very important role to play in their tribe as doctors, cooks and care givers.. These are very important roles. They just weren't typically huntse the men didn't think that they were built for it. It would kind of be like saying American society is bigoted because we don't think that women should be playing football,, They did have respect for her skills as a tracker and nobody necessarily forbid her from hunting. At no time did I feel compelled to root for the other tribesmen's deaths.. They never treated her that bad. Also none of the male warriors were necessarily weak. In fact they were quite fearless when it came to fighting the Predator.
They got killed because they didn't have time to form a plan. Her brother in particular was a very good warrior.

It really just seems to me that you don't like seeing female leads in these types of movies..

[–] Drooch (5333) 2 years ago

1. This movie took place in 1719 around the time when white men were doing things like giving Native Americans diseased blankets, slaughtering whole tribes and taking slaves on a regular basis. Through the eyes of the natives there were very few good white men at that time. There was nothing "woke" about that it was just a fact of history. Your problem is with the accurate portrayal of history, not this movie.

Idiot. The fact that white men would have been around in no way excuses their portrayal as purely evil and incompetent in a time when white males are constantly portrayed this way and race-swapped/killed due to the woke takeover of Hollywood.

2. I also wouldn't say that their society was necessarily bigoted.. The women had a very important role to play in their tribe as doctors, cooks and care givers…

Bullshit. She was constantly told to drop the hunting ambitions and get back to woman’s work, and worst of all… her motivation to hunt was ‘because you think I can’t’ - there couldn’t be a more woke motivation - obsessed with what others think of you instead of concentrating on being a virtuous, competent person. You can tell the writers were narcissistic wokists with motivations like this.

The film is woke af and your elaborate gaslighting attempt here has singularly failed.

It really just seems to me that you don't like seeing female leads in these types of movies..

What did I say? ‘Now, woke cultists will pull their usual strawman of ‘OMG you just hate women and are intolerant of a female lead bigot!’ Nobody thinks that and they know it, they’re just deceitful fucktards who cannot engage with the actual argument,’ Thank you for demonstrating my point.

[–] Palanador21 (217) 2 years ago

First of all you fucking nimrod I said that through the eyes of Native Americans in 1719 there were very few "good white men".. I even brought a few historical facts to showcase that point.. That is why through the eyes of Native Americans they would be seen as evil. This movie is a period piece told through the eyes of natives(Naru in particular).. Your argument that Hollywood does nothing but make white men look evil today also holds no salt since white men are the heroes in 95% of all movies made in Hollywood. Look at this trailer for upcoming movies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VwoYslTFv4

Most all of the heroes are white except for the aliens who are voiced primarily by white people.. Like I said, your problem is with the accurate portrayal of history within this film.

2. I said that she was never FORBID from hunting. Sure her mother wanted her to give up hunting and focus on her many other skills in order to help the tribe. But nobody ever FORBID her from hunting. Her brother even gave her a chance when they went after the lion and she failed.. So though some might have suggested that she not hunt. It was never forbidden as I stated. Now here is your point that is just freaking braindead. People use the fact that someone says they can't do something as motivation to go out and get it done all of the damn time. Five, foot four inch Spud Webb used the fact that people said he had no business being in the Slam Dunk Contest to go out and win the damn thing. That is just called proving the haters wrong. There isn't a damn thing woke about that.

And it has nothing to do with caring about what others think. It's about knowing what you are capable of and going out and achieving it no matter what others think. So would it have been competent and virtuous to just bow her head and go do the woman's work like everyone was telling her to do including her own mother?

Again. There is nothing woke about this movie.
What you are doing is whining..

[–] Palanador21 (217) 2 years ago

You're whining precisely because you don't like seeing a female hero.
You have a problem with accurate portrayals of history
You don't like the fact that this is one of the few times where white men are made to look bad in a movie with a none white lead.

[–] PrimeMinisterX (8716) 2 years ago

The movie is clearly anti-white.

[–] Drooch (5333) 2 years ago

Yep, but it’s fun watching this jumped up little twit run defence for the cult and try to convince everyone ‘there’s nothing to see here’ 🤣

[–] Drooch (5333) 2 years ago

Before we systematically dismantle the wall of shit you just farted out, let’s get something clear up front - you’re a degenerate woke apologist fucktard. You’re making excuses for the evil, diseased, racist woke cult… so drop the smug, obnoxious tone. The only tone appropriate for you is one of apology and supplication. Capiche?

You can’t seem to decide whether the racist portrayal of white males in the film is ‘through the eyes of Native Americans’ or ‘an accurate portrayal of history’. It’s obviously neither, of course. The film doesn’t distort reality like a David Lynch film, it portrays events from a traditional third person perspective like most movies, but of course the whole thing is written as anti-white male propaganda so the trappers are portrayed as filthy, evil, incompetent scumbags. So your excuse for the wokism on display utterly fails, again.

2. I said that she was never FORBID from hunting. Sure her mother wanted her to give up hunting and focus on her many other skills in order to help the tribe. But nobody ever FORBID her from hunting.

I never said she was ‘FORBID’ from hunting so who the hell are you screaming at now? I said ‘She was constantly told to drop the hunting ambitions and get back to woman’s work’ which is correct, because the woke writers wanted to rub our faces in the evils of the patriarchy. You’re trying to gaslight readers into thinking there’s no obvious agenda here, there is.

Again. There is nothing woke about this movie.

Look, you're not bright enough to pull off the gaslighting you’re attempting here. Everyone can see Hollywood has been turned into a woke propaganda machine and Prey is just the latest turd it has shat out.

Prey didn’t emerge in a vacuum, it emerged as part of a relentless assault on culture from multiple angles by a hostile cult, and your ‘there’s nothing to see here’ cover up attempts fail time and time again.

The only value you have here is showcasing an example of how the woke cult completely captures and destroys a mind (and bumping my thread). Let’s see what other pathetic, desperate apologetics you have in store…

[–] Palanador21 (217) 2 years ago

LOL.. You are getting awfully emotional. Tell me what is "woke" about No Time to Die"?

[–] Drooch (5333) 2 years ago

LOL.. You are getting awfully emotional.

Yes, you racist wokists elicit absolute fucking disgust in any healthy, free-thinking individual.

Tell me what is "woke" about No Time to Die"?

Sure, you’ve got the most long standing white male hero in cinema. Typically he beats up and kills villains, beds numerous attractive women with ease, and saves the day.

Wokism is all about dismantling the hero figures of Western Civilisation and there are few greater than James Bond, so in No Time To Die they have Bond encounter a gorgeous petite woman, Paloma. Does Bond batter the villains with her aid then fuck her, as he would usually? Nope. Bond fumbles around with one villain while this petite young woman wields two massive automatic rifles and slaughters almost all of the villains, then… they don’t fuck. Bond has been humiliated then she leaves the film.

At the same time, the film turns 007 into a black woman - again undermining the white male hero. She grants him his moniker back at the end of the film but it doesn’t matter because…

The film kills off the greatest cinematic hero of Western culture - James Bond. Another white male hero is slaughtered on the alter of wokism.

The film is absolute woke garbage. Now, the cult requires you to pretend that its attack isn’t happening, so let’s watch you try and gaslight us into thinking ‘there’s nothing to see here’ in the same way that the Nazis tried to pretend the holocaust wasn’t occurring - so that it could continue…

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[–] Hybrid66 (1516) 2 years ago

Plenty of past films have also depicted white evil men?

Hell, look at the 70's CIA films.

[–] Drooch (5333) 2 years ago

OK, but did they have a ludicrously buffed female lead and come out during a tide of anti white male propaganda films? If not, then your point is irrelevant.

[–] Palanador21 (217) 2 years ago

What exactly are these tide of anti white propaganda films that have come out? Name five...

[–] Bigt (114) 2 years ago

Drooch is fucking crazy lol.....there is no use in sound/logical discussion with him.

[–] Drooch (5333) 2 years ago

Pathologises dissent and tries to discourage engagement for fear it could pull you and others out of the cult. Very predictable.

[–] PrimeMinisterX (8716) 2 years ago

There was a really big one just a short while ago called Get Out. Made a lot of money.

[–] Drooch (5333) 2 years ago

I said ‘anti white male propaganda films’, some examples would be…

No Time To Die
Get Out
Terminator: Dark Fate
Captain Marvel
Scream 5

That of course excludes the relentless tide of woke TV that is being shat out as well.

[–] Palanador21 (217) 2 years ago

With the exception of "Get Out" none of those movies are anti white male.. Isn't No Time to Die a James Bond movie? How is that anti-white male with a white man as the star of the movie?? The same thing with Terminator: Dark Fate. Arnold is a white man playing a heroic android. How is that anti white male propaganda? Sure Captain Marvel is a about a female super hero but how does that alone make it anti white male propaganda? I have never seen Scream 5...

[–] mirelurk (884) 2 years ago

He's a brainwashed idiot. There is no point in trying to make sense of his posts, just point and laugh

Any movie that he perceives to not be at least neutral to his own personal politics is labeled "propaganda". That is how simple his mind is

[–] Palanador21 (217) 2 years ago

But didn't those 70's CIA films have white heroes in them as well? Seems to me that would balance things out..

[–] Drooch (5333) 2 years ago

OK, but did they have a ludicrously buffed female lead and come out during a tide of anti white male propaganda films? If not, then your point is irrelevant.

[–] mirelurk (884) 2 years ago

Another terrible Drooch thread where he proudly flaunts his own ignorance

[–] Drooch (5333) 2 years ago

No more inappropriate sharing of your homoerotic desires this time, OK stalker?

[–] mirelurk (884) 2 years ago

Not surprised that you hated it since Amber Midthunder must have small, feminine hands which you couldn't fap to

[–] Drooch (5333) 2 years ago

What the hell are you talking about?

[–] mirelurk (884) 2 years ago

Did I st-t-t-t-utter?

[–] Drooch (5333) 2 years ago

Again, what the fuck are you talking about? Do you have anything of relevance to add to the topic of this thread? If not, fuck off.

[–] mirelurk (884) 2 years ago

I bet your favorite food is breaded steak fingers

[–] Drooch (5333) 2 years ago

You were told to fuck off, now obey.

[–] April-151-CT (10210) 2 years ago

This movie for me was ruined by a hell of a lot more than just wokeness. I'd be here for 30 mins listing all the ridiculousness of this tripe. The only thing I liked was the native American setting, the gorgeous landscape, the dog, and the hot brother. That's it. Everything else sucked.