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Phil's problems (Spoilers)


I think people who put Bobby (BA) and Phil (CC) in the same category are mistaken. Bobby was clearly overextended and is an example of a guy caught with no chair when the music stops and all that that implies. I've seen posts saying Phil should've had more money saved, etc... I don't think $ was his problem. Phil was a guy who's whole identity was working for GTX, he gave his life and they tossed him out. I don't think he comitted suicide because of financial strain but because he didn't know what else to do or who he was. He was too young to stop working but too old to get hired, he didn't strike me as a guy that did much more than work. Now seeing himself as useless he did what he did.

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It also didn't help that his wife gave him no support. Telling him to not tell anyone, and leave carrying a brief case each morning and not come home until late to it looks like he is still working. That alone would depress anyone. As if he should feel ashamed. I know people who lost their job and while looking for a job they enjoy spending time with their spouse. She cared more about appearances than his happiness. So he hang out at a bar for days.

His is a sad situation because he came from a time when employers made promises and when someone is young they believe the hype, and then one day the company for whatever reason doesn't need you anymore. People have to entertain the notion all along that they are not their job and while they might love their job and the company, it shouldn't be their entire life. The worst thing I've heard in a company is, "Oh, that can't happen here", and sure enough massive downsizing comes along.

I don't know Phil's exact job function at GTX, but sometimes people get into some level of management and are involved in things so specific to the company those skills are very difficult to use at another company. But if all along, Phil didn't worry about anything because he felt the company would take care of him, that was his mistake.

But this is grounded in many successful large companies having people work there their entire working life and retire with a pension. So their expectation is that this is what employment will be like. It's a thing of the pass and has been for a long time.

No one should be seeking a job with the expectation that they will retire from that company any longer.

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In the end, money was still his problem. He played by his wife charade, but when he knew he could no longer do that and the charade was going to crumble, he killed himself. It got to the point where he said it was either paying Brown or paying the mortage. He pretended as long as he could to keep his family happy. Reality was going to hit the family hard.

His wife was useless. Their house was filled with tacky expensive bric a brac and crap. Daughter got to be a litte rich girl. His only purpose in the family was to bring home the check while they got to live their lifestyle. The severance was going to be done and he probably felt it was better to just get rid of himself then to burden them. We all would have made the daughter finance her own college by taking on a part time job and doing student loans. We would have told the wife we have to sell the house and all the crap and move to an apartment. He couldn't do that.

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Okay, now I keep wondering...there's no way the life insurance will buy that as a mistake, right? So unless there was some...COBRA life insurance that covered situations like this...right now, I must be vague, but I know someone who died under 'suspicious' circumstances. The spouse did not do it that is certain but by God the spouse is suing the the insurance co (thereby eating into what they don't have already) and the co has put the lawsuit back so long you can't believe it. It's like the co hopes the spouse will have an accident or something and die before the court date.

So much for Snoopy dancing and being in good hands.

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@ruffian82 Most major life insurance companies will pay if you "opt out" as long as you don't do it with in the first 2 years of the policy.

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The policy I recently purchased to replace the one I had when working full-time (now retired) has that provision: no payout if you kill yourself within the first two years of coverage. So if Phil got a severance similar to Bobby's (three months full benefits) he probably still had his work policy in force. Or if he had private coverage for two years prior, his survivors would collect.

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