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Tom Hardy was great but...


I wasn't a fan of the directing.I can see why people are saying this is a wannabe Kubrick film (A Clockwork Orange), but something more was missing. I feel the directing style could have worked but I needed a deeper understanding of Michael Peterson.

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Something (a lot) more was missing! Nothing about Michael/Charles was given the chance to develop besides the fact he was in love with brawling 24/7.

Considering the amount of times he was transfered,or even in the beginning when he had a child that was lost.

I didn't pick up what Charles clued in on when the creative instructor implied "we".

I was content with the slight nudity sequence at the beginning! But during the book scene I felt like I over ate at Thanksgiving, THEN at the end when they kept showing more it was like I've had too much to eat and I was vomiting from bursting from so much nudity!

I did feel sorry for him at the end in that last scene. 

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I thought the movie was excellent, but have the exact same gripes! Too much of Tom hardys little fella. And no insight into his first divorce and losing touch with his son.

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Too much of Tom hardys little fella.


You're crazy.

I like this movie so much I had to watch it...again!
The only thing - and this is a small thing - was when he got excited he
spit when he yelled. I wanted to shout, "Say it, don't spray it!"

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i asked for the news, not the weather!!!

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Funny this difference in terms of reaction towards nudity between genders. How come women's naughty parts are so sought after and considered by men as one of the, if not the most beautiful sight there is, whereas male attributes are rarely considered as such by the other sex, to such an extent that women might complain if they appear on screen and even look away if said attributes were to pop up unexpectedly in the changing room/at the pool/friends changing clothes etc.?

I find it as admirable as i find it incomprehensible. I keep wondering, is it nature? Is it culture? Is it both? Probably a combination of both like always, but it must be predominantly nature since the interest for the female body arises early among boys and that across all cultures. Also, women are protective of their virginity and choose only a handful of the "best individuals" (often only one) they'll meet in their lifetime and that also pretty much across all cultures.

Inversely, i find it also interesting to note that the gender which would look away if a stranger's dong were to be seen unexpectedly is the same which puts a lot of time and effort towards not showing its naughty parts by accident, whereas men, who only live for accidental (or not) display of female nudity are the ones who "couldn't care less" if their parts were to be seen, by accident or not. I mean, let's get real, if men were required to wear skirts like women, there would be hairy asses, balls and dongs to be seen all over the streets left and right, night and day! Just look at the way we sit.

I think the attitude towards seeing/looking at the other gender's naughty parts among women and men derives from a broader innate attitude towards sexuality as a whole, attitude which can be found all over the animal kingdom and especially among the mammals' class wherein the male individual systematically pursues the female individual and tries to win her over by various means, often a display of strength and health through violent fights against other suitors and wherein the female individual plays hard to catch and only favors the best individual with the best genes in order to create the best and most likely to survive offspring - BTW, evolutionary science says this is why nature "invented" love and why love lasts 3-5 years, because it's the time needed to created a semi-autonomous offspring.

Now, from an evolutionary point of view, this aforementioned broader attitude towards sexuality characteristic of both genders can be explained by the fact that a pregnancy for a woman is a big risk in nature; it is putting herself in a state of weakness, less able to defend and feed herself for several months, to say nothing of the first years of the fragile offspring, which will put both at risk even more. Given those factors, women had to develop strategies to hedge their bets by finding the strongest, kindest and most able to provide individual of a given group and make sure said individual would stick around after conception.

Men on the other hand had to compensate said strategies with more dominant behaviors and a more relentless pursuit of sex in order to establish their own lineage (and get some).

Which is why the modern male human has a stronger sex drive and a lesser urge for reproduction than his female counterpart and why the modern female human is less obsessed with sex but more with kids and raising a family with the ideal man. Which in turn explains, in my humble opinion, why a woman such as yourself (i presume) would be displeased at having to look at an unexpected dong and why a man such as myself (i think) would take time to explain why he is surprised that women don't like to look at expected and unexpected dongs.

At last, 2 things: 1) We are all different and not all of us fall in this category called the norm. That being said, i do believe that there are tendencies and averages related to both sexes. My post addresses tendencies and averages, not absolutes defining both sexes forever. 2) It's a good and beautiful, yet surprising phenomenon i suppose that men and women overlap somewhere in the middle, otherwise there would be no humanity. Even more so when one considers all the things that have been accomplished by men in the history of humanity in order to impress, seduce and conquer the heart (and panties) of a woman and in that sense, women are really the engine of civilizations.


People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs

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Then again, how can the director give a better understanding of Bronson to the audience if no-one, including Bronson himself doesn't understand him?

No, I'm in Touch with humanity!
- Patrick Bateman, American Psycho

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Whatever Michael Peterson went through in his early life resulted in him in becoming Bronson. That is why i think it would have been helpful to understand Michael Peterson's early life before he became Bronson.

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Doesn't Bronson specifically state that his parents and upbringing were in no way to blame for his violent tendencies?

Some people just love to stir the pot. I've known plenty of them.

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