Who cares?


Great acting but didn't care about the protagonist at all or the person he was based on. Why should I? I have to think there are much more interesting people to make a movie about. This guy had no redeeming or enviable qualities whatsoever. Unless I completely missed the point somehow.

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I don't know. I just like looking at Tom Hardy.


Maggots Michael, you're eating maggots.

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Fair enough, although it wasn't really a glorified depiction of him. Could maybe serve as a cautionary tale.

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This guy had no redeeming or enviable qualities whatsoever. Unless I completely missed the point somehow.

Well he's never killed anyone and has done something creative with his life other than causing all kinds of scenes. That said, he's definitely capable of killing. He's even had an attempted murder, though of a pedophile who apparently made him tick.

No, I'm in Touch with humanity!
- Patrick Bateman, American Psycho

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His lack of a homicide seems to be down to simple luck/timing.

I agree with the post above stating that the movie was well acted and somewhat entertaining, but ultimately pointless. It's not a mystery why he has remained in prison for so long despite his petty crime. He willfully and with malice of forethought repeatedly engages in violence.

If the film is remotely accurate in its portrayal the man enjoys violence and practices it as often as the opportunity arises. So, I assume they keep addin to his sentence and imposing harsher restrictions.

Is he a cause célèbre in the UK? If so, what he is a symbol of?

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Yep you missed the point

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Care to elaborate on how they missed the point?

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The op seems to only enjoy movies about characters with redeeming qualities. A movie about mr. Bronson can be just as good as a movie about John F. Kennedy. Its doesnt matter who the central person of the movie is, the movie has to work in its entirety. Its not who its about but how its made.

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I agree with you. I absolutely loved the cinematography and the acting of Tom Hardy, but I really had no interest in the character or the story at all.

It's just about a mental guy who likes to beat people up.

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Agreed. The guy is a dumb psychopath, and that's all to it. Pretty mediocre movie.

Hardy was great though.

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I care. He just lives what he is. For me that's actually the most enviable thing there is, trying to be your truest self in a completely constricted world. When he was whimpering under the overdose of tranqulizers you could sense his self trying to get out. Later we see that there's an artist's soul inside, one that expresses itself in uncompromising, unconventional ways.

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I am interested in people like this as well. What would we be like without society constraints? I am frightened and fascinated at the same time.

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Me too. We're so trained (or brainwashed?) by society, our culture and what we THINK we are or should be that I can't even tell who I really am. Sometimes I wish I knew how to get free of it all, to see what's really me.

A brilliant quote I found yesterday in a comment puts it into words quite well: ''It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.'' :-)

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Ohh, that is a good one. It's so easy to get into the vicious cycle of over thinking things too though. Watching a bunch of toddlers gives a pretty good example of what people are really like.

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You're right, and I'm definitely one who overthinks too much. Maybe if we let her, mother nature will take care of us as she does with the fishes in the frozen lakes (I'm re-reading 'The Catcher in the Rye' currently) - and all will be fine.

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I used to like this film a lot less than I do now. In fact, I kinda disliked it. But now? I dig it. Sure Tom Hardy is the main selling point here, but it’s a rather fascinating, enjoyable and well-crafted piece of cinema overall. On that note, films basically centered on a dislikable character with no redeeming qualities can be a rough watch, for sure. :) Take Scorsese’s Raging Bull, for example; I watched it so many times yet its protagonist (based on an even bigger real life ahole) isn’t someone you wanna spent time with in any capacity. So what’s the appeal in films like this? Well there’s probably different reasons for different people, but I say the film’s technical aspects, performances, and story make films of this nature a fascinating watch.

In Bronson’s case… it’s a visceral yet strangely humorous film. But it’s quite surreal and “theatrical” (as the real Bronson called it), it’s hard not to be intrigued by it and find some entertainment value in it. As I said though, Hardy’s utterly magnetic performance is what elevates the entire film in the end. It’s hard not to be enthralled. All that said, I get where you’re coming from. Why care for the story about a completely insane person like this, right? I get it. Nevertheless, I think this film has enough cool scenes (killer soundtrack) and of course one powerhouse performance from Hardy.

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