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Question about Dec 25

posted 13 years ago by Sofistali
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I only saw the first part of it, but it was interesting. They played pretty fast and loose with the mythology of other Sun God characters, but my real question is this:

If the "died for three days and rose again" myth refers to the winter solstice, we are basically celebrating the birth of the mythical savior around the time he died, not around the time he was born, and are celebrating the resurrection at a time unrelated.

Now, here's a thought. If the story about being "born of a virgin" could be traced to the Sun entering Virgo (get it? The sun "enters" the virgin and does her for about a month?), then the holy offspring would be born 9 months later (if these myths are meant to correspond to human life at all). So what is nine months after the end of Virgo? Jun 21, the summer solstice.

Now THAT would make sense. Celebrating the savior's birth at summer solstice and the saviors resurrection at Christmas. But we don't, and I wonder why?

[–] divisionbyzero85 13 years ago

Because the notion of "birth" that permeates these mythologies aren't about human affairs as much as they're about "spiritual affairs." In the ancient world "spiritual" was inextricable linked with what has happening in the "heavens" (or the sky). Thus, separating the death and rebirth constitutes a false dichotomy.

It doesn't matter if it takes a human 9 months to give birth after being impregnated because the myths are designed to encapsulate the various cultural theological concepts rather than explain what literally happened in history. Most of these myths only use history or historical settings as a starting point - like you would see in a movie or novel - and are by no means bound to even attempting high fidelity with historical accuracy.

[–] TakerFreak 11 years ago

Because the notion of "birth" that penetrates these mythologies aren't about human affairs as much as they're about "spiritual affairs." In the ancient world "spiritual" was impossible to separate with what has happening in the "heavens" (or the sky). So separating the death and rebirth to form a false conflict.

It doesn't matter if it takes a human 9 months to give birth after being impregnated because the myths are designed to contain the various cultural theological concepts rather than explain what literally happened in history. Most of these myths only use history or historical settings as a starting point - like you would see in a movie or novel - and are by no means bound to even attempting high accuracy with history.

Here is devision by zero post edited for people who don't understand intellectual words. :P

[–] ZAROVE 11 years ago

The Myths never existed. The sun gods all born on December 25th were fabricated in the 19th Century, its fake.

Please stop assumign the Zeitgeist rubbish is genuine.

[–] ZAROVE 11 years ago

actually, Zeitgeist part 1 has no evidence at all to back up any of the claims it makes abotu sun gods. No oen seems to have foudn any sun god bron on December 25th anyway. its a fiction told by Zeitgeist, made up in the late 18th Century by two french Enlightenment Thinkers.