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So hyped for Denis to expose David Lynch's lazy, amateur hack job effort


Lynch had three and half years, a 1500+ man crew and a huge budget to get Dune right.

He failed miserably. No cut of this movie would have been good, and the special effects were terribly done even for the time. A great director would have made it difficult for his movie to get cut to pieces, and if Lynch really did have a much better cut.. he would have released it by now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sguaghxZG8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHfLyMAHrQE

Lynch sucks!

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Lynch is the superior director. He created the masterpiece that is Mulholland Drive

Silencio.

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This is unfair. There were a number of things outside his control. For example, the blue eye contacts didn't work out in the sand, but he was assured "oh, we can easily fix it all with animation in post". Both were dead wrong, and added to the cost immensely. This was just one factor.

But really Dune is not a good fit for a visual medium. So much of it depends on thoughts in the heads of the various characters and they spend so much time thinking about things rather than doing things. Probably this third attempt will also be a disappointment.

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Yeap, and comparing it with Star Wars is unfair.

The special effects level in the 70s were perfect for Star Wars. The story required static miniature models, small scenarios and small set pieces that were perfect for the state of the art back then.

Dune, on the contrary, requires huge scifi set pieces and huge organic living-beings. There was no way to do that in the 80s. There's no way to do that without CGI.

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Good point. Lucas was his own writer and had gone to film school. He knew very well what was feasible for a film and what was not. Herbert did not write under any such restrictions.

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Personally I loved the 190 minute cut.

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Lynch got some things right. Clearly Dune is not the film he wanted to make, and not close to the level of his greatest works, but I have a fondness for it.

I don’t think the way to adapt Dune is to be reverential and hold the source material as gospel. It’s a great book, but not one that will translate easily. Hopefully Villeneuve works around the internal monologues. They worked, sort of, in the context of Lynch’s insane universe but lightning doesn’t strike twice.

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Dune is a masterpiece this is woke crap.

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Villeneuve made crapfest Arrival, the worst film of the last decade. And Dune looks to be almost as bad.

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lol Arrival is great you just didn’t get it.

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It was horrible. It was a big budget Lifetime movie. I didn't a buy a single moment.

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Sounds like piracy to me. Thief!

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While I definitely agree Lynch’s dune sucked, I think it had potential to be much better.

I think if they had a codirector to help make it more coherent it would’ve been incredible. Lynch has a great touch for going against the grain just the right amount at certain times. When that effect is used properly, it’s magic. But for the original dune it was a disastrous train wreck. The fundamental storytelling approach was terrible. They needed to adapt the book so differently from the book.

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Lynch had to deal with studio interference.

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