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So, the husband is a complete idiot?


I'm about 40 minutes in and so far the husband has:

- Woken up Cindy for no damn reason.
- Made a morning mess with his daughter while acting like a 5 year old.
- Nagged the hell out of Cindy while she was driving out of the driveway (while focusing only on saying goodbye to his daughter).
- Forced a night out even though Cindy was on call the next day.
- Made a huge deal out of her seeing some man at the store and over analyzed everything she said like a 13 year old girl.
- Made a disgusting non-romantic comment about a robot's vagina while walking into the Future hotel room (awesome way to get the mood going).
- Oh and he smokes constantly and uses that as an excuse to not be there for his wife.

What the hell is the predicament here? He seems like a total dick and loser?

Also, what was with the comment about the stolen money? Did I miss something? So is he a thief on top of all this as well?

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the first time she sees him hes leaving the old mans room with a wad of cash(he just got paid from moving him in) he feels the need to clarify that he is not stealing the money and also uses it as a way to spark a conversation. As far as the rest of your comment, you need to keep watching to get the back story in order to understand why they act the way they do in the present.

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Yeah.. there were these comments but the events that led to these comments seem to be result of cindy's behavior toeards Dean. She seems like btich throughout the movie.
But what i want to point out is that the movie shows only a few aspects. Its never clear why they drifted apart from each other. So as much as i want to judge her i also want to know what might have happened between them.

The most clear answer that comes to my mind is that as Dean said jokingly when he met her parents "I am nit good enough for you"; this is what Cindy feels after years of marriage. The fact that she was whroing around and has messed up her own life after getting knocked up has skipped her mind

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- Woken up Cindy for no damn reason.
- Made a morning mess with his daughter while acting like a 5 year old.
- Nagged the hell out of Cindy while she was driving out of the driveway (while focusing only on saying goodbye to his daughter).
- Forced a night out even though Cindy was on call the next day.
- Made a huge deal out of her seeing some man at the store and over analyzed everything she said like a 13 year old girl.
- Made a disgusting non-romantic comment about a robot's vagina while walking into the Future hotel room (awesome way to get the mood going).
- Oh and he smokes constantly and uses that as an excuse to not be there for his wife.


-You mean woke her to get her ass out of bed to go to work?
-You mean actually got their daughter to eat her breakfast that Cindy half-assedly prepared without a f--k given?
-You mean nagged her because he was concerned for her safety?
-You mean tried to solve the problems they've been having by being romantic and spontaneous?
-You mean the man whose child that really is and beat the sh!t out of Dean with his friends years before? The man she was being secretive about seeing at the store?
-OH NO! A joke! Burn him alive!!!!!! He's horrible!!!!
-I don't remember him using his smoking as an excuse for anything.


Dean isn't perfect. He's too emotional in an argument and is too dramatic about things he shouldn't be. But Cindy is far worse throughout the whole film.

She projects her failures onto Dean. She gets the dog killed. She is never really shown to mother her daughter in any meaningful way. She doesn't try what so ever to have fun with Dean or rekindle some romance-when that is ALL he tries to do the whole film. She passive aggressively makes love to him only to leave him stranded at the hotel with no car or note telling him why she left.

I see Dean as an emotionally immature, but deeply passionate person who lets his feelings get in the way of his judgment. His actions were ill advised. No, he shouldn't have forced her to join him on the little get away while she was on call. He could have made a case to do it as soon as she wasn't. And his outburst and attack at her job was a trainwreck...but the thing is his actions are understandable. You know why he does what he does and he does it because he still cares.
Cindy is just a closed off, empty, hurtful person.

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Pretty much everything you said is pulled out of thin air with no basis in the film. Nice try though.

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...amen to every word, every comma, every little thing you proposed.

Memory is a wonderful thing if you don't have to deal with the past

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You're going to be a terrible, terrible partner. In love or any type of relationship.
You seem to be completely unable to see the whole picture, or at least to somewhat see a different side than the one with which you are identifying. That's the worst kind of partner there could be. Not a chance for improvement.
I hope you're very young.

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