Better than Lost Boys, Fright Night (1985), Salem's Lot...
Nope! just kidding. This movie sucks donkey dick!
shareI don't understand why some compare these to books/movies of a different genre. Or why they expect there to be a choice between one or the other. I love Salem's Lot (1979), The Lost Boys (1987), & Fright Night (1985) ... and I also love the Twilight Saga books/movies. There's plenty of room for them all, without having to toss one over the edge of a cliff. I also love Strictly Ballroom (1992) just as much as I love Dirty Dancing (1987). My interests are all across the genres.
I'm sure you love books/movies that I hate, but I don't waste my time going to those boards and trashing the books/movies or the fandom. I don't understand why fandoms can't support other fandoms, instead of forcing a competition between them. Live and let live.
Thanks for helping keep the Twilight boards alive and well. And for spreading the hate so that new fans can learn of the books/movies and keep the franchise alive and well.
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Live and let live.
The thing is, people don't really believe in this platitude.
That's why it's a thing we say- to encourage people to try to attain it.
At heart people hate each other. They are programmed by biology to separate everything into 'us' and 'them'. If someone believes differently, they are the enemy. People, in my opinion, are always just a a few steps away from becoming like those Islamic State wankers.
I agree with you. I don't see any positive benefit into going to the boards of films/series I dislike and bashing things. All you're doing if you do that is to sling poop on people- just for the joy of slinging poop. That's something that monkeys do.
I always think about that crazy dress debate that erupted a couple years back. There was this dress that you either saw as white and gold or blue and black. And it all had to do with how your brain was wired up. It was interesting because you'd see the reactions of people- friends- who saw it differently and couldn't believe that the other person didn't see it the same.
This was a bit of a fun, but it did illustrate something about humanity and how it works. Seeing the dress as blue and black was not a moral failing. It was just because you were actually different.
It's the same with Twilight. It doesn't really matter why people like the film. I know why I like it. That's all that matters to me. But I have no beef with people who don't like it. They're just different from me. I'm happy with that.
The way people really denigrate the fans of this film, for me, represents the worst part of humanity. It's the part we should try to avoid being.
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The dress mentioned above:
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Metatron_Fallen -Again, so Eloquently said!
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I keep using the phrase in hopes it will work eventually. î
Welcome to the fandom ... or ... to the board. The more fans the better. îł
I'm watching 'Twilight' right now on FXM. (258 on DirecTv) (Just went off.) Next will be "New Moon" then "Eclipse" then "Breaking Dawn I" then "Twilight" again.
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I'm watching 'Twilight' right now
You've seen it a bunch of times, hey?
I'm a person who repeat watches things too. Twilight really, really clicks with me. I watched it today. (my Breaking Dawn part 2 still hasn't arrived)
I disagree with people who say that it is a poorly written film. I like to write and I have written three stories in screenplay format. It is hard. Much harder, in my opinion, than writing a novel. You are so constrained with a screenplay and you always have the clock ticking against you. You have to tell your story in two hours.
Twilight really zooms along at first. The images and Bella's narration put you in the story and tell the backstory very quickly. There is no wasted movement in the first act of this screenplay and this speaks of good writing.
So much is accomplished, for example, in a quick simple scene where Charlie shows Bella into her room and asks if she likes purple. Then he leaves and Bella tells us that the best thing about her dad is he doesn't hover. Literally seconds are expended but you understand so much about her and her dad's relationship. He trusts her. And she doesn't abuse that trust.
Which ties into later in the film when she has to suddenly make up a reason to flee Forks when James is pursuing her. You can really see how hurt Charlie is. You can sort of see it running through his mind that he thought he had been doing well with Bella but obviously he was wrong and the rug is being pulled from underneath him. This is also accomplished quickly but that little bit at the first of the film helps this particular scene very well and this is good writing.
I think the actors too, for the most part, did a good job. Kristen's performance is really top drawer and I never understand when people slate her performance in this film. She connected so well with all the other actors.
It's like in sports. Mostly teams like Barcelona or Real Madrid with huge superstar players win. But every once in a while you see a team come together with no superstars but they all just really click and they succeed because of this. The chemistry is right.
Twilight has excellent chemistry. Bella's emotions and reactions and facial expressions are very similar to Charlie's. She seems like his daughter. And they get on well- you can see there is a good energy there.
I think this story would have been an easy one for the actors to get wrong but they all seem to have been professional and invested a bit of themselves into the film. Robert's providing music for the film is indicative of what I mean. It makes it personal for him. And for Kristen.
Because at the end of the day, you are getting two stories. One is Bella falling in love with Edward. And the second is the real life story of Kristen falling in love with Robert. And you're seeing that on the screen. How romantic is that, hey? It's almost perfect.
And I think you see a lot of that raw emotion in her body language and expressions and the way she looks at him. And their kiss is still one of the best screen kisses ever. I don't care what anyone says to the contrary there- this is the truth.
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You've seen it a bunch of times, hey?
î Yeppers, I have. I check at least once a week or so to see if it is airing, and if there's nothing else on at the time I want to watch, I have the movies autotune. A lot of times they're just noise in the background as I do other stuff. I've read the books many, many times too. I've read 'book 3' of Breaking Dawn more times than the whole book. I would love for SM to write Renesmee & Jacob's book series to find out what's going on with them.
I'm a person who repeat watches things too. Twilight really, really clicks with me. I watched it today. (my Breaking Dawn part 2 still hasn't arrived)
*Doh!* I think I welcomed you to the board again. ??? Or did I? î Oh well, better than not welcoming you at all. I've been distracted ... yeah ... that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.
I disagree with people who say that it is a poorly written film. I like to write and I have written three stories in screenplay format. It is hard. Much harder, in my opinion, than writing a novel. You are so constrained with a screenplay and you always have the clock ticking against you. You have to tell your story in two hours.
Yeah. I think that's why a lot of writers start out writing the screenplay. It helps them figure out the story before they write it in novel form. (Some storyboard before they write)
I do think the movies could have been better, but we could have gotten the version where Bella was an FBI Agent. Yeah. That was a real possibility. Good thing it fell through and we got what we got. I think a TV Show/Mini-Series would do the series better, provided they stuck close to the books, and didn't stray off into something unrecognizable.
Twilight really zooms along at first. The images and Bella's narration put you in the story and tell the backstory very quickly. There is no wasted movement in the first act of this screenplay and this speaks of good writing.
Yeah, both the book and movie pull me in and doesn't let go ... even after it ends.
So much is accomplished, for example, in a quick simple scene where Charlie shows Bella into her room and asks if she likes purple. Then he leaves and Bella tells us that the best thing about her dad is he doesn't hover. Literally seconds are expended but you understand so much about her and her dad's relationship. He trusts her. And she doesn't abuse that trust.
Probably due to her taking care of her mother and being an "old soul."
Which ties into later in the film when she has to suddenly make up a reason to flee Forks when James is pursuing her. You can really see how hurt Charlie is. You can sort of see it running through his mind that he thought he had been doing well with Bella but obviously he was wrong and the rug is being pulled from underneath him. This is also accomplished quickly but that little bit at the first of the film helps this particular scene very well and this is good writing.
Yeah, Billy does a great job in that scene.
I think the actors too, for the most part, did a good job. Kristen's performance is really top drawer and I never understand when people slate her performance in this film. She connected so well with all the other actors.
It's like in sports. Mostly teams like Barcelona or Real Madrid with huge superstar players win. But every once in a while you see a team come together with no superstars but they all just really click and they succeed because of this. The chemistry is right.
Twilight has excellent chemistry. Bella's emotions and reactions and facial expressions are very similar to Charlie's. She seems like his daughter. And they get on well- you can see there is a good energy there.
Yeah. TPTB chose well. î IMHO
I think this story would have been an easy one for the actors to get wrong but they all seem to have been professional and invested a bit of themselves into the film. Robert's providing music for the film is indicative of what I mean. It makes it personal for him. And for Kristen.
Definitely. It could have come off like, "Vampires Suck." That movie could have been so much better had the actors played it straight. Like, "Cry Baby." That was an awful movie. IMHO But the seriousness of the actors made it hysterically funny. "Vampire Sucks" could have joined "Cry Baby" in being a must see.
Because at the end of the day, you are getting two stories. One is Bella falling in love with Edward. And the second is the real life story of Kristen falling in love with Robert. And you're seeing that on the screen. How romantic is that, hey? It's almost perfect.
Yeah. I'm so glad they didn't break up until the end of the movie.
And I think you see a lot of that raw emotion in her body language and expressions and the way she looks at him. And their kiss is still one of the best screen kisses ever. I don't care what anyone says to the contrary there- this is the truth.
I think Twilight is, for various and sometimes silly reasons, a very underrated film.
Yeah. I think these movies will last far longer than the haters think they will.
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I disagree with people who say that it is a poorly written film. I like to write and I have written three stories in screenplay format. It is hard. Much harder, in my opinion, than writing a novel. You are so constrained with a screenplay and you always have the clock ticking against you. You have to tell your story in two hours.
Have you checked out the Writer's board? Mostly script/screenwriters hang out there, though a few novel, nonfiction, ss, ff, etc. authors/writers hang out there as well.
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000019/threads/
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I had not checked it out before. Some of those threads seem interesting though so I might give it a whirl.
I like writing. I like expressing myself that way. And it gives you an immense feeling of satisfaction to complete a big project, like a novel or screenplay.
I initially read Twilight because Twilight New Moon was coming out in the cinema and this girl where I worked was totally hyped up to see it. She said she had all the books and I mentioned that I liked to read so she just brought me the books- unsolicited. But to be honest, I'll read just about anything if I'm not already into something and it's not totally terrible.
Stephenie Meyer had never written before. She was inspired by a dream. I became fascinated with the novels because she was a best-seller while obviously not a good writer (although I will give her a lot of credit for improving as she went).
So, reading these novels sort of gave me hope, you know? I could see the compelling aspect of the story even if the stories seemed over-long and dwelling on sugary details. It just made me believe that if S Meyer could do it...
So, when I finished the novels in a few weeks time, this same girl at work said she had the dvd of Twilight and she would let me borrow it if I wanted.
To be honest, I had no great expectations. She was young and I figured it was a story that would appeal, perhaps, to a young person but not to me. But it was free entertainment, so I accepted the loan.
I watched it six times in three days.
That was a few years ago- well, whenever the second film came out. I have never been able to get Kristen Stewart's scenes in this film out of my head. Some of them are insanely beautiful, like when she tilts her head back in one the final scene with her and Edward, offering him her throat and life.
Personally, I think the scene in the classroom where she and Edward initially speak is probably the best. I have watched that so many times. 'You're asking me about the weather?' kills me every time.
I didn't connect with the subsequent films as much but I still enjoyed watching Kristen Stewart in them. Twilight, for me, just works. And I'm not ashamed at all to say that. It's one of my favorite films.
There is a lot worse writing out there than SM's, so I really don't understand the hate it gets. She has something, though, that pulled me in and wouldn't let go. I don't know how she did it, but I'd like to be able to learn that part of her writing to use within my own. There's an article I found that might have the key, and I've read it many times to keep it in mind when I'm writing.
Turns out that Stephenie Meyer 'can write worth a darn'
https://asunow.asu.edu/content/turns-out-stephenie-meyer-can-write-worth-darn
Walsh said one of the things she found surprising about the books was âthe way she utilized such literacy devices as dashes, ellipses and fragments to help create a sense of urgency or tension or to help the reader delve deeper into a character's thoughts.
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âI was well aware that the literary world was critical of her books, but I think the allure of the series is the simplicity and accessibility of the characters and the plot,â she said. ââTwilightâ is a story of hope. Bella is the ordinary girl thrust into an extraordinary set of circumstances.
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âWhile teaching high school, I spent a great deal of time trying to help my students sift through complex literature that wasnât written for them and often lacked relevance to their lives. Meyer, I feel, wrote these books for them. And the number of readers speaks much louder than the number of critics.â
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Meyerâs skill at âconjuring caring and intertwining between her protagonist, Bella, and young women readers is undeniable.â She also has been successful because she writes with detailed description, Blasingame said.
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âShe avoids passive voice and opens sentences with what she wants the reader to see and know first, getting right to the action of the sentence.â
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âIn every sentence, Meyer leads with the picture that she wants in the readerâs mind and then moves on to the sentenceâs action, described by verbs that are spot-on accurate for conveying exactly what she wants the reader to experience through Bella.â
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Meyerâs writing style/voice âis remarkably consistent, almost mechanically so. One of the most difficult things for authors of novels, especially new writers of long novels, is to sustain voice and style. This authorâs statistics, however, change not a whit from the first book to the last.â
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Meyerâs writing style is âsimple and uncomplicated but also clear, coherent, and never ambiguous,â the readability is high, and that she consistently uses participial phrases to end sentences.
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âStephenie is a master at giving you a reward for going to the next page,â Blasingame said. âShe builds suspense well with very selective prose. She has quite an imagination. It touches something in the unconscious mind.â
I have this article saved on my computer, and printed out.
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I think I have a kindle version of Twilight. I might just have to look into that when I get finished with my current reading project- The Wheel of Time, by Robert Jordan. It's listed by wikipedia as the longest novel ever, with fourteen volumes. I'm on book eleven and coming down the stretch.
I'll give Twilight a few chapters to see if I recognize some of these qualities your article points out and to see if I am captivated by the character again. I read The Host, and thought it was a good story and found the writing to be very solid. In fact, I thought the novel was better than the film even with Saoirse Ronan starring in it.
I thought "The Host" was better written than the "Twilight" series, but it just doesn't hit the spot like the "Twilight" series does. I recently read, "The Chemist," but don't think it reaches the heights of her previous works. Maybe it is because it is more of a departure than her earlier works. î Or my expectations were too high. I'll reread it again at a later date. I would love a movie though.
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Airing right now: Breaking Dawn I ... next up: Twilight again. DirecTv: 258
There's another marathon tomorrow starting at 3/2pm EST/CST. New Moon, Eclipse, Breaking Dawn I, Breaking Dawn II, Breaking Dawn II.
Check their website ... they may also have the movie up there for a few days as well.
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