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Jack and Amy and Lou and Lisa and Ty and Peter

posted 10 years ago by vampslayer33000
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I'm on Season 6 (again). I fail to see why Lisa sticks with Jack. Earlier I could see that he's a noble country man and she's not an elitist in any sense.

Now he seems to becoming more and more senile with every episode. He doesn't bother to tell her or even discuss the fact that he's adopting this orphan. He forgets every time that she's coming over. She takes him on a nice trip to Paris and he can't even stand to see the pictures of it because he can't get out of his ridiculous comfort zone....

Which seems to be a recurring theme. Amy can't marry Ty but gets insanely jealous that he spends time with the vet assistant. Well, he asked her to marry him but she wouldn't because it was out of her comfort zone. Just like it was out of her comfort zone to go to Colorado St. and she acted really upset because she was offered a scholarship there. Heaven forbid.

Lou marries a guy knowing he's leaving for Dubai beforehand, then moans hypocritically saying "I didn't sign up for this" when she rushed the wedding and it was exactly what she signed up for.

Lisa and Ty and Peter should run for the hills as fast as they possibly can away from these emotionally stunted, immature people. Maybe they could meet up with Ashley or the black best friend that Amy alienated. I've hated Tim all along but maybe he's made the most sense getting out of there while he had the chance.

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[–] vampslayer33000 10 years ago

In real life that might happen but if it did in this case we wouldn't have a TV show called Heartland. 😞, or at least one not quite so hair pullingly, forehead slappingly entertaining. 😅

I know. I just wish they'd write Amy/Lou/Jack a little better. It didn't start out this way.

Peter seems as miserable as a guy can be in a marriage. How he hasn't blown his brains out by now is a mystery to me.

[–] Rpdsf 10 years ago

"....Amy can't marry Ty but gets insanely jealous that he spends time with the vet assistant. Well, he asked her to marry him but she wouldn't because it was out of her comfort zone. Just like it was out of her comfort zone to go to Colorado St. ....."

Interesting take on her reason for declining his marriage proposal and wanting to wait. I hadn't thought of it that way and it does make sense. What I found ridiculous was, after finding the engagement ring, she was so upset with him for not asking her to marry him sometime sooner during the 4 months that had passed. Then telling both Jack and Ty that, had he asked, she didn't know how she would have answered. Why then was she so excited after Ty asked her out on a date (twice), assuming that he was going to ask? After 4 months of knowing Ty was going to ask her to marry him, she still doesn't know how she would have answer? If that was the case, then it seems she wouldn't have been anxious for him to ask and upset that he didn't. It seems logical that she would have hoped he wouldn't have asked until she had made up her mind one way or the other. This, like other plots, seemed nonsensical and very poorly written.

[–] vampslayer33000 10 years ago

I've read on these boards that Amber Marshall married sometime around season 6. I can certainly tell a difference in their onscreen chemistry that would seem to coincide with her marriage. Maybe they should have had them go their separate ways on the show since Amber Marshall hasn't been able to convincingly convey feelings for Ty.

[–] Rpdsf 10 years ago

It wouldn't have worked. The creators had too much invested in their relationship over the previous seasons. I don't think the audience would have been pleased either. I noticed the same thing as you and assumed it was for the same reason. Too bad they didn't invest in better directing. A good director(s), one who cares about the quality of the production, would have found a way to overcome the problem.

This program has gone the way of some others that have been on for a time. They just start churning out the episodes without too much care about the quality.

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[–] vampslayer33000 9 years ago

Her delivery comes across like she's Ty's buddy, not his fiance.

You have that exactly right. They act like they're best pals, not madly in love with one another.

[–] Punamanita 9 years ago

Not all couple have to be on top of each other kissing and doing it 24h/7.
Some people ARE best friends. Best friends who kiss and love each other, in a very different way than people that are together for the looks, the passion, the lust, well, the sex really, and the very strong attraction. Amy and Ty have something far more special than for example, Lou and her barn boy (it's all about sex, and she's falling once more for a dude that has NOTHING in common with her and this relationship is bound to fail), or Lou and Peter, or Jack and Lisa...I can't even understand those 2 last relationships, it's like yeah "I marry you because I'm scared of dying alone"...
Ty and Amy have a strong bond, a strong love, a strong friendship, and it's something they built overtime. They don't need to convince us on the chemistry or else, it's not a sex show :P to me it's one of the best tv couples. Because they are REAL, because I see myself in Amy, I'm not into showing my feelings (and I'm kind of uncomfortable doing so), my husband is kind of like Ty, very calm and respectful of my space. And yet, it's been 11 years and we're still going strong. Some relationships are based on trust, friendship, common interests, and to me they are those that last longer :)

[–] willfeti112 10 years ago

I'm on season 7 and am wondering what's going on with Jack, he has become a true blue jerk.

[–] TesubCalle 10 years ago

Personally, I think post-heart-attack Jack was missing Lisa terribly, but had no idea how to fix things after their last break-up.

Thank God for episodes 713 & 714.

Certa Bonum Certamen

[–] willfeti112 10 years ago

Yes, and was very angry with Tim about the mistakes he kept making.

[–] vampslayer33000 9 years ago

So Lou won't compromise at all with Peter about moving to Vancouver because "Heartland is her home." (Season 6 finale.)

Oh, grow up you (Lou) overgrown child. Your character has to be at least 30 and you're still living on the ranch you grew up on and have no intentions of ever leaving?

Of course, this is more bad writing as they have ruined Lou. Season 1 she was in New York and could not wait to leave Heartland to get out of there. Now she can't be convinced by her own husband and father of her child to compromise and move a couple hours away to Vancouver?

But she'll attempt to buy a horse for $40,000 ($40,000!!!!!!) instead of hiring a lawyer for about 10% of the cost and proving that the original owner had a verbal sale with Amy.

Heck, get a private pilot's liscense (can't be much more difficult in Canada) and fly back and forth between Hudson and Vancouver. If you (Lou) can get Jack (if he isn't dead) to grow up and act like an adult as well she can split the cost of a plane with Lisa who would probably like to live in the big city as well.

I feel sooooo sorry for Peter. It's partially his fault as he married poorly yet again and never should have reproduced with her. However, he's doing his best while staying married to a total immature lunatic. He should take Georgie and the baby and move to Vancouver and if Lou wants to see them she knows where they can be found.

This show is desperately in need of a younger J.R. Ewing-type that would teach Lou a thing or two about the real world.

[–] ScrystaLz 9 years ago

she never tried? Seriously? Did you forget that Lou had moved to Dubai with Peter for while and then she lived with him in Vancouver for a while? And don't forget, before she returned to Heartland in the pilot episode, she had lived in NYC for a few years. So it's not like she "never" left Heartland, there were plenty of times when she moved away, but it never seemed to work out so she always ended up moving back home. So at least she has tried to compromise, she has tried to move away to live with Peter in different cities, she tried numerous times actually, but it never worked out. And now it's even more difficult to move away with Georgie in the picture now, Georgie is so attached to the life in Heartland, it's where she lives, where she goes to school, where her friends are and where her life with horses are, and it's difficult to pull her away from it. I feel that ever since Georgie came into the picture, she has become a main reason why Lou refuses to leave Heartland.

And Peter is no saint either, he's so career-driven that he's always putting his job and career before he's own family, and it's his OWN decision to work in jobs that constantly take him further away from his family. He refuses to work closer to home even though he was offered a really good corporate job in Calgary, much closer to home, but he rejected the job just because he didn't like the boss. Seriously, he was putting his pride before his own family. Instead he prefers to work jobs that takes him far away from his family, and he complains to Lou that she's being selfish and not compromising? Peter is just as guilty for being selfish and not compromising enough for his family, he's constantly putting his career and pride before his own family.

Lou and Peter are BOTH selfish and they are both hypocrites and they BOTH are responsible for the break up of their marriage, neither one of them is more responsible than the other, they are BOTH equally responsible.

[–] cynthiad 9 years ago

Some of the issues these people have grow tiresome. Amy is more often than not upset about something and pouting or sad. Lou seems to be a delusional spoiled brat - it was so predictable that she'd be unhappy with Dubai. Tim is too often an immature hothead. And Mallory, who on earth would put up with her annoying mouthy nosy ways? Granted, she is funny at times...other times just annoying.

The whole Blair / Grant situation could have been completely left out as for my taste. Blair is such a low life liar. And Ty bringing her to Heartland...so clueless. LOL.

I guess it's just youthful immaturity that Amy would think Ty would never be attracted to another female...but, he loves her her and Amy's pride just gets in the way.

[–] jabber87 9 years ago

Almost done with season 6 here. I think Lou hit the nail on the head when it came to Jack and Lisa. They were from two very different worlds, and neither really confronted that topic until Jack begrudgingly went to France for Lisa.

Amy has trust issues and rightfully so given how her sister at the start was trying to actively get back to work in New York for awhile, or given how her father basically disappeared for years on end. Though Amy's issues seem to go away after Ty's BBQ at his place with his classmates. Her trust issues with Ty seemed to be relating to not wanting to hold him back from becoming a vet, but also not feeling involved enough with his new world of friends at vet school. All of which seemed to be solved by about mid season 6.

As far as Lou and Peter... I don't know where to begin. Rather than talking to Jack or Tim about her marital issues, she goes and talks to Caleb. While Caleb isn't totally off the mark in sensing what the issue is, it definitely wasn't his place to say or do anything. I'd say that roughly half way through the season it was kind of apparent that their relationship was kind of on the outs. At least that's how it came off to me. I can understand wanting to provide for his family and working, but he seems to just trying to find reasons to not stay at the ranch. Basically intentionally staying busy to avoid having to deal with supporting his wife and Georgie. Lou basically ended up shouldering the entire responsibility with Georgie.

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