Do goat herders always compromise military maneuvers?
I seem to remember this happening in other films in this genre. Does anyone think that the makers could have thought up a different way of them being discovered?
shareSeriously is that the best trolling you've got?
If you are not willing to give up everything, you have already lost
I was not intending to 'troll', I was sincerely asking why the 'herders' dilemma is so frequent in these stories/films.
sharebecause goat herders dont have plans on where they're going to walk so cant be predicted by foreign military.
they were a problem for special forces in Iraq too.
Nothing to see here, move on
I understood that there was a problem with the locals being unpredictable, before watching this movie. The problem I have though is this: The reality of this happening is known, but for it to be constantly used in movie after movie as a reason why missions fail, shows lack of creativity and spoils the movie. Also, as I know its a true story, why have the military not taken other incidents of this kind into account?
shareI was not intending to 'troll', I was sincerely asking why the 'herders' dilemma is so frequent in these stories/films.
You must have been living under a rock because in your first post it seemed pretty obvious you didn't know this movie is based on brutal True Events and you want the Director/Screen play Writer to change they way they were compromised just because it's too cliché??
Besides the movie Bravo Two Zero which again was based on True Events in which too had a SAS patrol compromised by a herd of sheep and a young shepherd.
I seem to remember this happening in other films in this genre
So besides those mentioned above what other military movies have had patrols/missions compromised by a herd of animals??
Plenty of patrols in the Afghanistan war by Special Forces have been compromised by Shepherds and their herd and unless they are loyal to the Taliban each go their separate ways just like what happened to a Australian SASR patrol while they were in a Lying Up Position. Their six man patrol LUP was set up so well that only 3 troopers had to pop out of the hide as to not give away that there was a larger patrol of 6.
No matter how good you think your fieldcraft is e.g. camouflage etc in your LUP/OP is you can still get compromised by animals and nomadic herders in Third world countries.
If you are not willing to give up everything, you have already lost share
During the Rhodesian/Zimbabwe War, the Security Forces used to complain about problems with 'Mujibas': young boys who searched for security force observation posts under the guise of herding goats around.
Why can't you wretched prey creatures understand that the Universe doesn't owe you anything!?
I don't know much about the Rhodesian/Zimbabwe War however children have been used as scouts for ages. The Viet Cong used kids as their eyes and ears. These children and women would gather information during the day as to our perimeter defence and reported them to the village Viet Cong during the night.
Yes sometimes "kids" were captured by the US and her allies (South Korea, Australia and NZ) and yes sometimes times they were killed. However at what age does a kid become a "military aged fighting male"?
I mean under most Western ROE enemy scouts/artillery observers no matter what their age are considered fair game even if they are unarmed and only have a radio/phone.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/dec/07/us-military-targeting-strategy-afghanistan
A two year old article but even the Taliban use children to dig the holes on the side of roads for IEDs thinking the US/ISAF Forces ROE won't let them shoot them or even get them hit by an airstrike...
However, the US official claimed that, before they called for the strike on suspected insurgents planting improvised explosive devices, Marines had seen the children digging a hole in a dirt road and that "the Taliban may have recruited the children to carry out the mission".
If you are not willing to give up everything, you have already lost share
During the Rhodesian/Zimbabwe War, the Security Forces used to complain about problems with 'Mujibas': young boys who searched for security force observation posts under the guise of herding goats around.
Why can't you wretched prey creatures understand that the Universe doesn't owe you anything!?
you mean special operations force, special forces isn't a blanket term for any military with specialized training its a very specific term that only applies to the Green Beret's all other specialized groups are called either special operations or special operations force Never SPECIAL FORCES
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