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8th Highest Grossing Film of All Time, Even During COVID


https://www.boxofficemojo.com/chart/top_lifetime_gross/?area=XWW


Damn, imagine if there was no COVID eh? This shit would be near Avenger level profits.

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That’s pretty impressive considering how awful the screenplay was and how lame the film turned out. The marketing must have been genius or something.

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So everybody else is crazy? Sure pal. Now take the pills again, ok?

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I wouldn’t say people are crazy, they just don’t know any better. The vast majority of moviegoers are just looking for entertainment and to escape.

I certainly don’t expect the average moviegoer to notice poor writing or to know the difference between story and plot. To them that doesn’t even factor into the equation. It’s all a big carnival ride to them, the chance to be kids again and exit the ride with a big smile on their face.

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I normally don't care about numbers but this does make me happy because I enjoyed the film. It's crazy when you hear a movie has 'beaten' titanic. If they can get passed Avatar I will be very pleased. This was a fun film.

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Hopefully all franchises start doing the multiverse just like Spider-Man did. Just imagine how many dead characters can be brought back to life.

It also makes things so much easier for the writers, any mistake can be undone with the snap of a finger. Multiverse is definitely the wave of the future.

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I don't know if I would want everything to be a multiverse. I feel DC would completely botch and ruin something like this.
It can become very lazy and convoluted after a while. Between the whole Dr. Strange, Infitiy War/Endgame, Loki, and NWH plots, I am kinda exhausted from the time travel/multiverse stuff. Doesn't mean I didn't enjoy this particular movie. It didn't feel like forced fan service, though it was all in there. The main cast seemed to have a lot of fun and it was fun watching them have that fun and it was a great distraction from what's going on in the world right now. I never understood why Avatar did as well as it did but I could completely see why this movie did.

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It's already grossed more than The Avengers, what are you talking about?

If it had gotten a China release it probably would have been the 3rd highest grossing movie of all time.

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Obviously the other Avengers aka $2B+ range.

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It has also grossed more than Age of Ultron. Or did you mean the OTHER Avengers. Lol.

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These charts are all bs... are you aware that ticket prices back in 97 were about half price what they are today?

If Titanic had been released with today's (2022) average admission prices it would have grossed over 3.5 billion.

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Ticket prices aren't double today, at least not where I live. It cost about 8.50 to see a movie in 1997, and now it costs 12.00. Keep in mind that movie ticket prices don't track precisely with the rate of inflation, and the change in the cost of a gallon of milk or a dozen eggs is not duplicated by the prices of all goods and services.

More to the point, however, realize that Titanic came out in the days before streaming videos, when the internet was still in its infancy, and if you wanted to see Titanic you had to go to a theater and see it. If you wanted to rewatch key senes, there was no YouTube on which to find them. You bought another ticket, and watched the movie again. And, significantly, there was no pandemic keeping theaters closed, and/or people at home.

Titanic also had other advantages. Leonardo Dicaprio was the hottest teen star, so every teen and preteen girl had to see the movie at least three times. Meanwhile, adult male action fans had to see it just to see the ship sink. CGI was still a big new thing, and the scene of the Titanic sinking was a major draw. Nothing like that had been seen before onscreen. Add to those two built-in audiences the female rom-com demographic, who needed to see it for the love story, as well as its run up to the Oscars, where every Serious Movie Fan had to see it, then top it off with the post-Oscars "I simply must see the winning picture" audience, and you see how an otherwise average film soared to the top of the charts.

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2022 ticket prices are MORE than double what they were in 1997, this is a fact.

Here you go: https://www.natoonline.org/data/ticket-price/

Back in the 90s it was easier to watch a movie several times, you just stayed in your seat and nobody would remove you, now a lot (most?) of theaters assign seats.

What relevance do your other points have to do with the gross of any movie, every movie can be analyzed why were they a success or a failure... if Titanic had sold the same amount of tickets it sold in 1997 with 2021 prices it would have grossed over 3.5B.

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Your final sentence disproves your argument. No film is going to make $3.5 billion today, or any time soon. The data in the link is misleading as well. I don't know how they are computing those numbers, but they bear no reflection to reality. They may be pricing backwards using inflation rates, or it may be an average, but the price of a ticket in Nebraska is quite different from that in San Francisco, and way more people are buying tickets in San Francisco. In major U.S. cities, it cost around $7-8 to see Titanic, and now it costs about $12-13 Spider-Man.

The bottom line is that Titanic today would not make nearly what it made in 1997. It caught a perfect wave at a perfect time. For Spider-Man to pass it in today's economy, during a global pandemic, is astonishing, and one can only imagine how much more it would have made were it released in 1997.

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So you are telling me that hundreds of sites are wrong regarding ticket price inflation, but you are correct without any analysis, just because you say so... ok.

All of your other arguments are completely irrelevant.

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My argument that far more people went to cinemas to see movies in 1997 than 2021 is irrelevant?

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Ticket prices in WHICH COUNTRY? You realise that only the US uses the American dollar as a currency right? You also realise that exchange rates are always changing? Who sits in a theater to see a movie twice back to back on the same day? Weirdos? Maybe. There were no huge ultra high definition surround sound home cinemas in 1997. No online movie streaming, no online movie piracy meaning you could not see a movie online for free the day it came out at the cinema.

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https://www.boxofficemojo.com/chart/top_lifetime_gross_adjusted/?adjust_gross_to=2020

You're probably looking for this then. Gone with the Wind would be at the top.

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It's a pointless excercise comparing modern movies with ones that were released when there was no home video, most people didn't even own Tvs, and there was much fewer forms of entertainment to distract people from their lives.

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That adjusted list is for domestic releases, not worldwide.

Also what about population? Isn't it impressive that the entire population of the US was 130 million when Gone With The Wind was released and even though population is now in the 330 million... no other movie has been able to sell as many tickets in this country?

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Not really. Tickets were cheap and you couldn't watch on TV, and there were far less forms of alternative entertainment. You also have a ridiculously small theatrical release window these days. Thanks to piracy. It used to be the case that Movies grossed over an entire year, and had staggered releases across the world. Even after VHS it would be literally years before you would have the chance to see it on VHS. And about 5 years before you could see it on television. And when you did see in on television it was in 4:3 format, with low resolution.

I am sure that the number of times people have watched Endgame is more than double the number of times it has been seen in cinemas. So in that sense it has been probably been watched more times than Gone with the Wind was watched.

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Because this is a movie for young people who don't fear Covid. That is why it did well.

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You have to adjust for inflation.

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Pretty sure this movie’s success, as well as other profitable movies like James Bond and Fast & Furious, prove that COVID is no longer scaring people away, or an excuse to hide a bad movies’ failures.

Things are back to normal, and have been for a while. Good/popular movies make profits, where as bad/unpopular movies don’t.

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