Where did she find the clothes and the suitcase and money to be able to make the trip to the Collins mansion
She was in the asylum for years so she would have grown out of her regular clothes
She wouldnt have any i.d.because she had been jailed in the asylum
So,where did she get what she needed? Did she steal it?
I would assume so, and I suppose Josette's ghost may have guided her quite a bit or maybe even appeared to people to scare them while Victoria grabbed what she wanted
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For some reason I don't recall Victoria Winters being in an asylum...gotta watch the film once more.
In the series she had been at an orphanage, and she had a secret benefactor that was unknown.
Her past is shown through a flashback during the scene with Barnabas and Victoria on the balcony while the ball is going on downstairs.
I've never watched the series, but I know that the movie doesn't follow it extremely closely. I love this movie, even though everybody hates it.
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I love this movie, even though everybody hates it.The wife and I are huge fans of the original series, we have the entire series on DVD...even the first couple hundred episodes that were released after the initial DVD release that started with Barnabas' first appearance.
Well said!
I wasn't around when the series first broadcast, and even at that I don't think it was shown over here in the UK, so what attracted me to the film was Tim Burton, the cast and the supernatural storyline.
Being an extremely long series, making a movie out of it was obviously going to be no easy feat! With hundreds of storylines, Tim had to create one which fit a movie and entertained audiences. It's streamlined to the Barnabas and the Collins family v.s Angelique, which works perfectly well as a film. What did the diehards expect? A week long film covering everything that has ever happened on the show?!
A lot of the threads here accuse anyone that doesn't hate the film of being a shill for Burton. I'm not particularly a big fan of the guy...I like a few of his films but certainly not all of them. But I don't hate the film.
And y'know...I am often amused how many seem to forget the original wasn't exactly a 4-star production. In fact it was quite the opposite.
Of the many mishaps cited about the original series, a lot of folks mention the immortal "fly on the face" scene...but there were so many. Some other, more obscure flubs:
Visible shadow of a guy holding a fishing pole with a bat on a string. Even the shadow of the string was visible!
An actor making a one-time appearance was to say "Is Mr. Barnabas in?" but rather says "Is Mr. Jonathan in?"
During the end credits, a stage hand with a flannel shirt and horned rimmed glasses meanders into the scene to start breaking down the set, then looks up with a startled expression, then bolts.
Rev. Trask forgetting his lines during a long scene with his back to the camera, and Jerry Lacy had no choice but to turn around and face the camera in order to read the only teleprompter (or it may have been cue cards). Lacy laughs about it in one of the commentaries.
The werewolf breaking in a window then jumping a rail, but the actor hung his foot on the rail and took a massive face plant! It was a fall worthy of Buster Keaton.
And many, many more. My take is, if I am entertained then all is well.
I've heard that about the show too. Clearly paper bats, Bella Heathcoate mentioned in an interview about tape marks on the floor to mark where actors stand are visible on camera etc.
I've seen every film of Tim Burton's except Pee Wee Herman and Ed Wood. I guess I prefer the more gothic and crazy films :)
I loved this one just the same, but I'm not sure if I would still say that if I had grown up with the original show since childhood. I can see where the fans are coming from, but they have to understand that the show could not have been adapted for film any other way.
Having seen the series back in the 60s, then watching again with the DVD release, it was different.
The show scared the tar outta me as a kid. It was pure fun as an adult and was not frightening at all.
If you could get hold of it, I highly recommend the original series...at least up to the end of the 1796 time travel thread. The first Barnabas thread depicted him as a very sinister character and he was only supposed to appear for something like 8 weeks, but the character was popular so they kept him on. And things really changed when they went back to 1796 and you got to see how he became what he was. That was a great story.
Jerry Lacy was great. So handsome. Could've been Humphrey Bogart's twin. He used to capitalize on that resemblance and do a terrific Bogie impression.
Rev. Trask had a few bad moments. I recall a scene where he had the witch Angelique tied to a tree and he had a long prayer type speech banishing her. A fly flew into his mouth and he had no choice but to spit it out and continue on. Got a kick out of that.
I used to enjoy seeing the actors sometimes bump into the tombstones in the cemetery. They were the only solid "granite" tombstones that wobbled when you touched them. LOL
Only the names are the same concerning the similarities of the series and the movie! Barnabas walking around in daylight, the Collins' broke and business dying, and Angelique a conniving businesswoman purposely trying to hurt the Collins to the present days! None of that made any sense, but I'm watching anyway!
Update: Watching the movie, Victoria had a nightmare of her childhood where her parents sent her away to an asylum for just talking to her doll! Too strange!
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